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The Ancient Alien Theory Is True


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#6736    DingoLingo

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 10:22 AM

View Postzoser, on 10 February 2013 - 10:20 AM, said:

Don't get technical LV; you will really confuse them.

Soot is soot and that means no aliens period.

it also means no GP as a generator :D

View Postzoser, on 10 February 2013 - 10:21 AM, said:

According to who?  Egyptologists?  Not good enough.

but its good enough from the AA .. Power generator crowd.. ?

no zoser.. that is not good enough..


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 10:22 AM

View PostDingoLingo, on 10 February 2013 - 10:19 AM, said:

pretty much.. as soon as the levels built up and cover over the passage ways.. they had to light it..  so yup.. that is what I am arguing about..

So where do you suppose the claim that there is no layer upon layer of soot came from?  Someone is not telling the truth somewhere?  Either there are layers and layers of ancient soot, or there isn't.

Why the uncertainty?

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 10:23 AM

View Postzoser, on 10 February 2013 - 10:21 AM, said:

According to who?  Egyptologists?  Not good enough.
Zoser, if you're going to start with the blanket rejection of theories because of the profession of the people suggesting them, this debate's goig to grind to halt when the rest of us blanket refuse to listen to any theories put forwars by the sausage makers, convicted frauds and lonesome Centauri of the world.


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 10:27 AM

View Postzoser, on 10 February 2013 - 10:22 AM, said:

So where do you suppose the claim that there is no layer upon layer of soot came from?  Someone is not telling the truth somewhere?  Either there are layers and layers of ancient soot, or there isn't.

Why the uncertainty?

the claim for no layers of soot came from the AA crowd..

AA: “According to most mainstream archaeologists torches were used by the ancient Egyptians to light the pitch black chambers of tombs and temples, yet nowhere on the ceilings it there even the slightest evidence of soot or smoke residue.”


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 10:31 AM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 10 February 2013 - 10:23 AM, said:

Zoser, if you're going to start with the blanket rejection of theories because of the profession of the people suggesting them, this debate's goig to grind to halt when the rest of us blanket refuse to listen to any theories put forwars by the sausage makers, convicted frauds and lonesome Centauri of the world.

The Egyptologists claim that the GP was a tomb for a dead King.   For hundreds of years there has been doubt about that claim and zero supporting evidence.  Recent research suggests that it was built for a very different purpose by different people.

If Egyptologists have universal credibility then why the controversy?

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 10:32 AM

View Postzoser, on 10 February 2013 - 10:21 AM, said:

According to who?  Egyptologists?  Not good enough.

And the AA theory is backed by who? Some barely educated half-wits who have zero formal training or education to be able to substantiate their ideas that border on the illogical ramblings of lunatics? Is it any wonder that those who make history their life's work won't give this garbage the time of day? You can be angry that thousands of historians, archaeologists and scientists over the course of hundreds of years don't agree with you but it changes absolutely nothing. Neither will the repetition of unsubstantiated and unproven gibberish. You are charging the enemy while shooting blanks. Mostly just a lot of noise.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 10:32 AM

View Postzoser, on 10 February 2013 - 10:31 AM, said:

The Egyptologists claim that the GP was a tomb for a dead King.   For hundreds of years there has been doubt about that claim and zero supporting evidence.  Recent research suggests that it was built for a very different purpose by different people.

If Egyptologists have universal credibility then why the controversy?

because it makes money


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 10:34 AM

View PostDingoLingo, on 10 February 2013 - 10:27 AM, said:

the claim for no layers of soot came from the AA crowd..

AA: “According to most mainstream archaeologists torches were used by the ancient Egyptians to light the pitch black chambers of tombs and temples, yet nowhere on the ceilings it there even the slightest evidence of soot or smoke residue.”

So do we have layers and layers of ancient soot in all of the tombs and temples or don't we?  Because if they used torches to assist them in their considerable artistic efforts there should be.

Yet some claim there is no such thing to be found.  A little soot residue could have been caused by anyone.

It's so simple.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 10:35 AM

View PostDingoLingo, on 10 February 2013 - 10:32 AM, said:


because it makes money

I think that's a cop out.  Plenty of people researching it now who have never appeared on the History Channel.

All over the internet, and in all good bookshops.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 10:39 AM

View PostSlave2Fate, on 10 February 2013 - 10:32 AM, said:

And the AA theory is backed by who? Some barely educated half-wits who have zero formal training or education to be able to substantiate their ideas that border on the illogical ramblings of lunatics? Is it any wonder that those who make history their life's work won't give this garbage the time of day? You can be angry that thousands of historians, archaeologists and scientists over the course of hundreds of years don't agree with you but it changes absolutely nothing. Neither will the repetition of unsubstantiated and unproven gibberish. You are charging the enemy while shooting blanks. Mostly just a lot of noise.

Shooting blanks?

Granite stacks for no reason, acoustic tuning and partial isolation of granite stacks, major differences in limestone composition for no reason, accuracy of construction unachievable by modern standards, copper electrodes in shafts...............

To deny is your privilage if counter argument fails.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 10:42 AM

View Postzoser, on 10 February 2013 - 10:31 AM, said:

The Egyptologists claim that the GP was a tomb for a dead King.   For hundreds of years there has been doubt about that claim and zero supporting evidence.  Recent research suggests that it was built for a very different purpose by different people.

If Egyptologists have universal credibility then why the controversy?
academia moves glacially slowly.
it's a holdover from the days whe  it toook months for discoveries to filter back to a cental point, furthwe months for it to be debated by the intrested/knowledgable across the globe and so on and so forth.

it also serves to ensure the dreck is filtered out through rigourous testing.
the downside is that even the teuth may take years to be acknowledged as such, especially in this/day and age of both intellectual and monetary investment in theories.

the fact that "it's a tomb" is now viewed, at least by the "common man's archaelogists", the documentary makers of this world' as just one explanation is testament to how ideas are changing.


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 10:45 AM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 10 February 2013 - 10:42 AM, said:

academia moves glacially slowly.
it's a holdover from the days whe  it toook months for discoveries to filter back to a cental point, furthwe months for it to be debated by the intrested/knowledgable across the globe and so on and so forth.

it also serves to ensure the dreck is filtered out through rigourous testing.
the downside is that even the teuth may take years to be acknowledged as such, especially in this/day and age of both intellectual and monetary investment in theories.

the fact that "it's a tomb" is now viewed, at least by the "common man's archaelogists", the documentary makers of this world' as just one explanation is testament to how ideas are changing.

People agree that a Roman Amphitheatre was just that.  Never any argument or controversy.

Not so with the GP.  People smell a rat.  A great big one too.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 11:21 AM

well, as I said - we are culturally connected to the Romans. We're not connected - nor are there people who are cpnnected coutresy of the aforementioned Sultan and the phrase "if it's already in the Quran, it's supurfluous, if it's not in the Quran it's heretical" destroying everything - to the Egyptians.
Nturally ee know our ampitheatres from our baths, but not our pyramids from our temples.


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 11:34 AM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 10 February 2013 - 10:23 AM, said:

Zoser, if you're going to start with the blanket rejection of theories because of the profession of the people suggesting them, this debate's goig to grind to halt when the rest of us blanket refuse to listen to any theories put forwars by the sausage makers, convicted frauds and lonesome Centauri of the world.

lets just do it anyway, the convo has regressed 300 pages to when we last talked about pyramids etc, in great detail

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 11:41 AM

View Postzoser, on 10 February 2013 - 10:31 AM, said:

  Recent research suggests that it was built for a very different purpose by different people.




No it does NOT suggest that. The only people saying that are those who want to create enough mystery to sell their books and to retire happily ever after. The only people saying that - are fringe. so be a good lad, compile your list of ' recent researchers' and post them here. I can guarantee Id know most of them in advance and their levels of credibility.


Recent research (which will include at least the last 20 years)  is mostly done by Zawhi Hawass team of experts. Not just any mug can go wandering around the mids/site you know, only the tourist parts and I think a lot them have been closed for years, (but, this last statement needs checking to see what was closed, why etc)

You need to remember something zoser, everything you say is influenced from a fictional book, listed under 'fiction' written by a non expert with no background worthy of making such claims. This really does make you look rather silly, doesn't it?

so compile your list of recent researchers, and try to get some who sit on the fence, ie: dont wholeheartedly believe the AA theory. If you can. Then I will do a credibility check on every one of them, (for you), for even you should know, if the source is unreliable it should be taken with a very big pinch of salt. But likewise credit will be given where its due. And only if its due.  I will look forwards to your list of recent researchers, (you know, boots on the sand type researchers).... asap thanks

remember what Ive said about confirmation bias when you do it tho....









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Edited by seeder, 10 February 2013 - 11:54 AM.

The England team visited an orphanage in Brazil today. “It’s heartbreaking to see their sad little faces with no hope” .....said Jose, age 6.
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