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[zoser]

Myles, on 26 February 2013 - 08:51 PM, said:

Oh boy

I know it flies in the face of hundreds of years of misinformation and ignorance and about the pyramid, the ancients, and our origins, but that is what the truth is like.

Saying of Zoser:

"Truth like water, will find a way".

[seeder]

zoser, on 26 February 2013 - 08:55 PM, said:

I know it flies in the face of hundreds of years of misinformation and ignorance and about the pyramid, the ancients, and our origins, but that is what the truth is like.

Saying of Zoser:

"Truth like water, will find a way".

saying of seeder

"It's hard to get the big picture when you have such a small screen"

[zoser]

Any way, I'll leave you guys to pick the bones out of that.

What amazes me is that the radioactive properties of granite are well known.

Is it really such a stretch to consider that massive forces acting upon it in the form of sound resonance will excite the stone to emit high levels of energy?

In other words:

Is matter not condensed energy?

If therefore granite (inherently radioactive) is excited by high mechanical stresses, is it such a stretch to think that it will accelerate and amplify the radioactive effect?

Common sense?  

[Harte]

zoser, on 26 February 2013 - 08:36 PM, said:

I can see you are all missing me.  Posting clips of wrestling, and so on.  You know you all love it!  Here we go then.

Look the information is everywhere.  Granite was obviously of prime importance to the ancients.  It is seen in the precision architecture of Peru, and mysteriously vast quantities of it exist in the Great Pyramid.

Now the banal of mind would argue that it is perhaps the most commonly occuring of the hard rocks and so for durablilty, longevity and structural soundness it made sense for that to be the material of choice for the ancients.

That may be fine as an argument when looking at the Peruvian walls.  In the GP however we have a situation where we now know that the granite provides no structural integrity at all by virtue of the isolation that exists between it an the core masonry.

Bauval asserts that the granite is almost completely isolated and resting on corrugted shaped masonry.

(Also no one thought to challenge the granite structural theory on the basis that the middle chamber has no such mass of granite above it and would in fact need the support more than the upper chamber).

So the structural integrity idea is a non-starter.  

What we do know about granite is that it is an active stone.

Here is what is said about it:


Radioactivity

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Granite is a mineral that is produced through a slow process from the crystallization of molten rock. It contains a wide variety of elements and minerals, some of which are radioactive. A radioactive element is one in which the molecules periodically break down, releasing either particle or electromagnetic radiation. If this radiation has enough energy to detach electrons from atoms, it is said to be ionizing radiation and can be dangerous. Naturally occurring radioactive elements in granite include thorium and uranium.

Alpha and Beta Radiation
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Two types of particle radiation that can potentially be emitted by elements found in granite are alpha and beta radiation. Alpha radiation is made of particles composed of two neutrons and two protons. Although it is ionizing radiation, it has little penetrating power and can be stopped by a sheet of paper. However, it can damage living tissue if the elements emitting this radiation are inhaled or ingested. Beta radiation is made of fast-moving electrons. Beta is more penetrating than alpha, but it will still be stopped by a sheet of aluminum foil.



Read more: Type of Radiation Emitted From Granite | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/...l#ixzz2M2PBHbOF



Bearing in mind that this is in a non-excited state.  The granite stack as we now know was designed to vibrate or resonate.  What the effect of that must be on the properties of the stone would potentially be immense bearing in mind the area of the pyramid, the mass of granite and the tuning that we know took place from the rough hewn beams above the upper chamber.

Because, as we all know, vibration causes radioactivity.

Harte

[Colonel Rhuairidh]

zoser, on 26 February 2013 - 08:42 PM, said:

Perhaps the word should actually be 'grinite' not granite.

grinite = igniter

That is exactly right.

"Pyramid" =
Mydripa?
Apidrym!
Mypadir!

All of which could be the home planet of the Astronauts of anciency. Yes, we could be on to something!

[seeder]

zoser, on 26 February 2013 - 09:03 PM, said:

Any way, I'll leave you guys to pick the bones out of that.

What amazes me is that the radioactive properties of granite are well known.

Is it really such a stretch to consider that massive forces acting upon it in the form of sound resonance will excite the stone to emit high levels of energy?

In other words:

Is matter not condensed energy?

If therefore granite (inherently radioactive) is excited by high mechanical stresses, is it such a stretch to think that it will accelerate and amplify the radioactive effect?

Common sense?  

sense for commoners more like.

[bmk1245]

zoser, on 26 February 2013 - 08:55 PM, said:

[...]
Saying of Zoser:

"Truth like water, will find a way".

Nope. You just crossed Stupiditas river for the n+m+l+1 ^th time.

[DingoLingo]

zoser, on 26 February 2013 - 08:55 PM, said:

I know it flies in the face of hundreds of years of misinformation and ignorance and about the pyramid, the ancients, and our origins, but that is what the truth is like.

Saying of Zoser:

"Truth like water, will find a way".

I think the Oh Boy was for the stupiditiy of this..

Ahh.. another zoserism..

just a small question mate.. how much do you know about radiation.. alpha..beta and gamma radiation.. and how much do you think Dunn knows about it?

next question.. what do you think the radiation was used for.. and what do does Dunn think it was used for.. directly or indirectly..

was it a direct source of power.. or a secondary source of power..

if it was a direct.. ie.. using the gamma radiation to power a unit wirelessly.. how do you both think it was directed to the unit..

if it was a secondary source.. ie.. the way we use radiation today to heat water to make steam to turn a turbine..

[Sweetpumper]

Saying of Sweetpumper:

"I have an army.  We have a Hulk."

[Abramelin]

Alphamale06, on 17 November 2012 - 10:59 AM, said:

It takes a certain type of understanding to really embrace the ancient alien theory, as most skeptics do not, cannot, and will not be able to process this information. Yes, there is a God and Jesus Christ did walk this Earth, however , I am of the opinion that there roles and purpose was misunderstood .... I am also a Christian that also believed extraterrestrials played a huge part in developing mankind..... There is NO debunking the building and creAting of these enormous ancient structures..,,anyone who thinks that regular human beings built these structures are not capable of processing the truth ... It is not there fault ..... Some people are not meant to understand.. But in due time all will know.

I thought it wasn't such a bad idea to restart with a reply to the second post of the one who started this thread: a devout Christian.

It now appears to me that those who believe in the AA theory may be of the religious kind: if it sounds great and if it's ancient, then it must be true.

The Christians believe Jesus was born of a virgin, walked on water, raised the dead, cured the crippled, changed water into wine (my favorite trick), and so on.

If they are willing to believe in all that, then of course some of them are willing to believe it were super-intelligent aliens who built the ancient structures.

It is nothing but a modern extension of their already present gullability.

[DingoLingo]

zoser, on 26 February 2013 - 09:03 PM, said:

Any way, I'll leave you guys to pick the bones out of that.

What amazes me is that the radioactive properties of granite are well known.

Is it really such a stretch to consider that massive forces acting upon it in the form of sound resonance will excite the stone to emit high levels of energy?

In other words:

Is matter not condensed energy?

If therefore granite (inherently radioactive) is excited by high mechanical stresses, is it such a stretch to think that it will accelerate and amplify the radioactive effect?

Common sense?  

not really.. since the radiation from granite decays from the particles within the granite which do not replenish.. if left in its natural state.. it decays slowly over time.. what you are talking about its a direct way of having those particles decay quickly and with a greater strength.. thing is.. these particles do not replenish..

so you would build this huge power generator.. expend all this energy in making it.. only to have it run out of juice on you..

how is that common sense?

[bmk1245]

seeder, on 26 February 2013 - 09:07 PM, said:

sense for commoners more like.

Radiation from bananas and other foods must drive AAers out of their sandals

[Colonel Rhuairidh]

Abramelin, on 26 February 2013 - 09:09 PM, said:

I thought it wasn't such a bad idea to restart with a reply to the second post of the one who started this thread: a devout Christian.

It now appears to me that those who believe in the AA theory may be of the religious kind: if it sounds great and if it's ancient, then it must be true.

The Christians believe Jesus was born of a virgin, walked on water, raised the dead, cured the crippled, changed water into wine (my favorite trick), and so on.

If they are willing to believe in all that, then of course some of them are willing to believe it were super-intelligent aliens who built the ancient structures.

It is nothing but a modern extension of their already present gullability.

oh dear, it's time to knock that old favourite standby punchbag, Religion (i.e. Christianity), again. *yawn* If the loony religious nuts are gullible enough to believe all that nonsense, they'll beleive any old nonsense, is that basically what you're saying? It's always funny that those who are keen to distance themselves from christianity, or religion as a whole, always seem to be rather dogmatic about insisting what one must believe if one is superstitious & gullible enough to not have seen the light of the golden uplands of Rationality. If, as you'd probably also insist, one also has to believe in the creation stories in Genesis et al, wouldn't there be a rather awkward incompatibility between those two versions? An Earth that God created and which is the only place with itnelligent life in the universe, and then ETs descend in fiery chariiots? That would raise a few theological questions, wouldn't it?
But oh dear, this is turning into Spirituality v. Skepticism, something I usually try to keep well clear of, so I don't think I'll go down thisroad any further.

[Abramelin]

Lord Vetinari, on 26 February 2013 - 09:22 PM, said:

oh dear, it's time to knock that old favourite standby punchbag, Religion (i.e. Christianity), again. *yawn* If the loony religious nuts are gullible enough to believe all that nonsense, they'll beleive any old nonsense, is that basically what you're saying? It's always funny that those who are keen to distance themselves from christianity, or religion as a whole, always seem to be rather dogmatic about insisting what one must believe if one is superstitious & gullible enough to not have seen the light of the golden uplands of Rationality. If, as you'd probably also insist, one also has to believe in the creation stories in Genesis et al, wouldn't there be a rather awkward incompatibility between those two versions? An Earth that God created and which is the only place with itnelligent life in the universe, and then ETs descend in fiery chariiots? That would raise a few theological questions, wouldn't it?
But oh dear, this is turning into Spirituality v. Skepticism, something I usually try to keep well clear of, so I don't think I'll go down thisroad any further.

Indeed, that's basically what I am saying.

But some of the believers start doing what's also known as 'thinking', and the best they can come up with is 'Ancient Aliens', aliens with incredible and unproven super-powers, like their one-and-only God is supposed to have.

And in case you forgot: it was a devout Chrstian who started this thread.

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

Silly old me was thinking they used granite because they knew it'd last as a building material.
You're building something important? Build it to last.