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The Ancient Alien Theory Is True


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#7861    DingoLingo

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:33 PM

View Postzoser, on 28 February 2013 - 08:31 PM, said:

Not a chance mate.

You were trying to argue that they were trying to achieve right angles.

I say they didn't need them.

Anything they wanted to do in stone they could have because they had the technology to do so .

Simple.

ok we are agreeing on something here again.. maybe not the method on how it was made.. yes they had the tech and the know how to do it with the tools they had on hand..


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Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:34 PM

Well at least some of you seem to be using some common sense.

There may be some hope yet.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:35 PM

View Postzoser, on 28 February 2013 - 08:34 PM, said:

Well at least some of you seem to be using some common sense.

There may be some hope yet.

I'm feeling the same thing regarding you as well..

I will try to get online at the airport while I wait for my flight :)


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Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:35 PM

View Postzoser, on 28 February 2013 - 08:30 PM, said:

Here we go again.

The St Louis people are tribal are they?

Ethnographically speaking, yes. Either way, it's a perfect model for cultural information transmission over time. I'll wager there're quite a few people in the region who've never heard of New Madrid, and don't realize it's still a ticking timebomb.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:40 PM

View Postzoser, on 28 February 2013 - 08:26 PM, said:

No bickering Abe, just gob smacked by the immaturity.

Again does it look as if the ancients needed right angles?

You only need them if you need them.

Nope, looks like they needed a protractor

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:43 PM

View Postzoser, on 28 February 2013 - 08:23 PM, said:

I'm just so gob smacked with nonsense in here.

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I think you are referring to modern analogies or from classic times.  

The problem is that unless some of these ancient precision sites are unearthed it is extremely difficult to tell.

I think it is absurd to explain ancient standard by using modern ones.

To believe that they produced precisely cut andesite blocks and then rested them on that jumbled mess is just absurd.

Sorry.

But then I'm talking to archaeologist types I suppose.

That 'jumbled mess' served it's purpose did it not? The aesthetic quality of it has nothing to do with it's ability to perform as intended. Why would the ancients do more than what was necessary for a support structure that likely wasn't ever meant to be seen?

As far as modern analogies, nope. I specifically mentioned a time frame of all throughout history, that gives you free reign to supply whatever example you can find. Any restriction lies squarely with you.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:44 PM

View Postzoser, on 28 February 2013 - 07:25 PM, said:

Another point that is clear from this picture:

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Anyone doing trying to do serious dating work on the foundation wall shown in this picture is doomed to criticism.

There is little evidence that this foundation wall is anything to do with the precision cut andesite relics.

This is the kind of thing that makes archaeology look stupid, unreliable and amateurish.

That wall could well have been done by indians.

The precision cut relics were clearly not.

If that's the mound mentioned in the report, then there may be a bit more too it than what you think you see.
They mentioned  the construction resting on a platform,  implying a solid pavement of blocks, which means it was built on top of them.

Edited by Oniomancer, 28 February 2013 - 08:45 PM.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:46 PM

View Postzoser, on 28 February 2013 - 08:09 PM, said:

Another childish comment.

Does it look like the ancient builders needed right angles when they had the technology to do this?

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You only need right angles if you need them.

They clearly didn't.


And frankly they could have done with them. What a dog's dinner that is. :-/

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:48 PM

I don't know what's the matter with this site, hardly anything seems to post first time and you nearly always have  to copy what you've said and reload it or keep hittining 'post.' It really is immensely annoying, but no one ever seems to do anything about it

Edited by Lord Vetinari, 28 February 2013 - 08:50 PM.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:49 PM

View PostDingoLingo, on 28 February 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

I'm feeling the same thing regarding you as well..

I will try to get online at the airport while I wait for my flight :)

Here's a good example of precision foundation work.

Notice how amazed Foerster becomes as he surveys the whole artefact.



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Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:50 PM

View PostLord Vetinari, on 28 February 2013 - 09:12 AM, said:

Very possibly the legends, which many countries of course have, including Greece (Deucalion) and Uruk (Gilgamesh) may have been based on either a series of events that happened over a period of time in that region, due to rising sea levels*, or something like the indundation of the Mediterannean basin, seen from various vantage points, I do think might be quite possible.

Around the end of the last Ice Age there were many glacial outburst floods, all over the northern hemisphere (southern too, for all I know.

There's a list of several at the above link.

Of particular interest to me is the Altai flood, it being near to the region under discussion.  Possibly, oral histories of this series of floods account for some flood myths.

The flood in Sumer was a river flood, originally, as I understand it.  The Hebrew flood is essentially a rewrite of the Babylonian legend that originates in this Sumerian river flood.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:51 PM

View Postdanielost, on 28 February 2013 - 03:25 PM, said:

There are three ressons given by scientist give for the destruction Puma Punku, 1. A meteor, there is no crater.  2. A war,  again no crater nor are the stones scorched.  3. A loclized flood,  I don't think the nearby lake is large enough.
The above is simply not the case.

Anthropology knows for a fact that the site was "mined" for stone in subesquent years after it was abandoned.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:53 PM

View Postseeder, on 28 February 2013 - 08:40 PM, said:

Nope, looks like they needed a protractor

Only fools of modern times need them.

As I said you only need them if you need them.

They clearly didn't.

They were able to create precision both with and without right angles.  Total virtuosity in stonework.

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Notice the moulding marks in the above picture?

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:53 PM

So zoser, let me see if I have this right. You propose that the builders of the foundation could not be the same as the builders of the intricate stonework above it because the foundation is not of the same quality (quality being subjective as it appears the foundation was actually of a higher quality as it is still there, unmoved)? And furthermore you propose such without ever seeing an example of such building techniques anywhere else at any other time? Is that the gist of it?

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:53 PM

View Postzoser, on 28 February 2013 - 08:13 PM, said:

and another childish comment.

Are you sure he was not checking consistency?

Absolute childish it really is.

No common sense, no intuition, no reasoning, no wisdom, no respect, just pure products of a 20th century education system.

Just believe what you are told and don't think for yourselves.
Eeeeh, kids these days, no respect for their Ancient Elders.

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