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[Imaginarynumber1]

zoser, on 06 December 2012 - 08:18 PM, said:

The funny thing is the Inca denied all knowledge of it's construction (Sacsayhuaman).

I can find no reference to that anywhere.

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

Imaginarynumber1, on 06 December 2012 - 10:52 PM, said:

I can find no reference to that anywhere.

they denied that too

[psyche101]

synchronomy, on 06 December 2012 - 10:57 AM, said:

Pretty tough to put in words whats in that video.  It's an animation of a DNA strand being run through a nano "machine" to duplicate it.  It gets split lengthwise, one strand is chopped and reversed while the other is looped backwards, then the whole thing is bonded again making 2 identical strands.  Feet of DNA are processed and duplicated in mere seconds.  It's just to complex to have come about in a puddle of warm mud millions of years ago.

What about this?

synchronomy, on 06 December 2012 - 10:57 AM, said:

...and I think everything's round because Egyptians patented pyramids and cubes have too many pointy corners to look good.
Who knows?

Gravity. Everything has that binding electromagnetic force, it creates the tiniest atoms and the largest suns all with symetrical precision. By nature, nature is beautiful, which is why DNA is not a surprise for me. All that element making, heat, pressure, combinations, forces, all coming together to make perfect spheres in every piece of nature. From the tiniest elementary particle to the unfathomably large suns.

[psyche101]

zoser, on 06 December 2012 - 05:48 PM, said:

Two things.  Vandalism and erosion.  The sandstone blocks have been exposed to elements and they were never designed to be. Simple.  Look carefully at the precision of the triangular casing stones at the bottom of the GP.  The accuracy of fit is stunning.  That's the smoking gun.  Not what isn't precision but what is.

But these two things do not apply to the holes at Puma Punku?

Can you make your mind up please.

[Imaginarynumber1]

Wearer of Hats, on 06 December 2012 - 11:00 PM, said:

they denied that too

It all makes so much sense now! they denid building it because CLEARLY it was an advance alien race that came to Earth to use thir amazing technology to drill holes in rocks to make us humans, a scant 600 years later, think that the Incas built it! It maks so much sense now!

[psyche101]

zoser, on 06 December 2012 - 06:31 PM, said:

That's purely a matter of perception.  The web is replete with video's and technical explanations that all make orthodox archaeology look pure fantasy.  If that were not true we would not be having this conversation.

Translation:

If you troll Youtube long enough, you will find heaps of crap like this.

No there is nothing more than the same fringe crap regurgitated by all the dodgy websites that cling to hippy philosophical garbage.

Yes it is true, I canot believe how many times I have told you that the plural of anecdote is not data. If they had an ounce if substance, then we would not be having this conversation.

zoser, on 06 December 2012 - 06:31 PM, said:

The only people I feel deeply sorry for are the poor youngsters of the world that are force fed this garbage and receive it on pure faith with no option.  That's disgusting.

What is disgusting is that you are trying to propagate ignorance. Your information is the most inaccurate on this board, and that above statement is something I think people should be locked up for.

And you know what, I am doing my damnedest to make that happen. AA people are firmly in my sights ATM, I am going for legislation, not debate.

zoser, on 06 December 2012 - 06:31 PM, said:

In the 8th grade my science teacher taught the class that man evolved from sharks.

If I see him again I'll literally ram a copy of that Darwin drivel on his person where the sun never shines.

I hope he gets an Encyclopedia and clobbers you right back with it.

I thought this was a fairly recent development? How long ago did you claim to have heard this?

And you should have listened to him. It's actually a fish called Acanthodes bronni which in turn gave rise to sharks. It was the last common ancestor between bony fishes and sharks. He did not say Sharks evolved into men, he said Acanthodes bronni were the first Jawed Vertebrates that gave rise to other animals that eventually crawled onto land, then synapsids, which millions of years through many divergences later would come out as a lemur looking creature, which again over more millions of more years became man. It is a long process and you deliberately skipped over about a billion steps between the man and shark. That is plain dishonest. We even share commonality with a housefly. Because we all come from the same place.

Edited by psyche101, 07 December 2012 - 12:37 AM.

[DingoLingo]

zoser, on 06 December 2012 - 07:47 PM, said:

Nothing that was done in Greece or Rome compares to the GP, Puma Punku, Cuzco, Sacsayhuaman and perhaps another half dozen unexplainable megalithic sites around the world.

You must surely know that.

OK here goes; show me a perfect hole cut to that depth out of hard stone and that precision in Rome or Greece.

And again I ask.. Where are the pictograph and hieroglyph to show the gods helping or making.. After all according to you AA crowd the have shown the gods themselves.. Their crafts .. Why non of them helping?

[Spectre1979]

Atentutankh-pasheri, on 17 November 2012 - 10:20 AM, said:

To me, I think were this ancient alien theory falls on it's face is the nature of such interventions. For example, why would they, by levitation presumably, help built pyramids, Stonehenge etc, and not give more important help like medical knowledge, or knowledge to better grow crops a long time before we worked out efficient crop rotation and irrigation. In these matters there is not a sudden advance, but a very long evolutionary process. If ancient aliens wanted to help us, then why not with matters that really help, and not just religious or even vanity projects.

Agreed.

[psyche101]

zoser, on 06 December 2012 - 07:16 PM, said:

Speak for yourself.  Don't include me in this ridiculous fantasy.  I understood him perfectly.  Criminal to teach such nonsense.

No you did not at all. Not one bit. It is criminal to insist knowledge in nonsense, and attempt to influence others to refuse knowledge simply because one is too lazy to listen. Disgraceful in fact.

[psyche101]

zoser, on 06 December 2012 - 07:47 PM, said:

Nothing that was done in Greece or Rome compares to the GP, Puma Punku, Cuzco, Sacsayhuaman and perhaps another half dozen unexplainable megalithic sites around the world.

And for todays statement to top yesterdays.........

Yes it does. Your weak evaluation is horribly biased, but expected from an AA'er. Lets face it, the Pantheon smashes your claims, and younger sites like Pum Punku into the ground. Typical AA cop out. I refuse to accept the evidence presented. No argument, no reasoning, just some foot stamping Huh Zoser? Pretty poor effort on your behalf I would say. Where is that research advice you give others? I have asked you how the curved columns were made, and why do they look straight when they are not? How was this accomplished an why? And what about the detail?


I know why AA'ers avoid the Pantheon like the plague very well indeed. There are excellent records regarding the construction. Including the inscription over the entrance. Cannot have something older and more complex, and more detailed now can we?

zoser, on 06 December 2012 - 07:47 PM, said:

You must surely know that.

Why would he be aware of a desperate lie?

zoser, on 06 December 2012 - 07:47 PM, said:

OK here goes; show me a perfect hole cut to that depth out of hard stone and that precision in Rome or Greece.

And there we have it. I do not want to discuss something that proves mans abilities, I want to make up stuff about a hole. Lets talk about that.

I think you should answer all the questions already posed to you about "the hole" which has you so fascinated, like why does it show coring marks like holes we still drill today? And where is your perfect surface? All we can see is surface weathering, of which samples have also been supplied to you for comparison, and then pointed out for you yet again. You are calling it a perfect hole, it is not perfect, it is weathered.

[psyche101]

Imaginarynumber1, on 06 December 2012 - 08:01 PM, said:

This doesn't compare?


Or this?




What about this?


All made by humans, by hand.

A thousand times more impressive than some blocks with holes in them.



Not being in Greece or Rome, I simply cannot walk up to a building and take an image of what you request.

But you can clearly see the detail on this statue. OBVIOUSLY the craftsmanship can ONLY be explained by aliens as the ancients simply did not have the tech necessary to do this, right?



How did they make the spear so straight!!!!!Derp derp derp.

Brilliant examples


LOL, nah, this is much more complex, delicate and intricate!!







I am thinking he is not serious with regards to the actual claims, but using them. I am thinking he gets off on riling people up. Lets face it, the comparisons are plain ridiculous and a glance shows just how much so. I feel the intention is quite possibly nefarious, and designed to disarm people by pleading ignorance whilst promoting a personal agenda.

Nobody can say the above examples are superseded by Puma Punku, that's plain nonsense.

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

as I understand it, most architectual historians cosider the concaave dome to be th greatest achievement of human ability ib relation to architecture.
Sadly for Zorbo the Matian, we have irrefutable evidence for this being a purely human achievement - better luck next year Zorbo.

[psyche101]

zoser, on 06 December 2012 - 08:12 PM, said:

Fail.  I'm no more excited about that than I am this:



Your pictures are no more fascinating or mysterious than this.  If the were they would be the subject of intense investigation.  They are not.

If you want to know why, look at my previous post.

Yes, the examples provided to you are a great deal more fascinating than a standard house, that is why the world reveres them and they are the subject of intense interest. I agree with imaginarynumber1. I would rather not know what excites you.

Wow, you topped your earlier statement, I did not realise you were done for today yet. Possibly the worst statement yet.

Edited by psyche101, 07 December 2012 - 01:43 AM.

[DONTEATUS]

psyche101, on 06 December 2012 - 11:18 PM, said:

What about this?










Gravity. Everything has that binding electromagnetic force, it creates the tiniest atoms and the largest suns all with symetrical precision. By nature, nature is beautiful, which is why DNA is not a surprise for me. All that element making, heat, pressure, combinations, forces, all coming together to make perfect spheres in every piece of nature. From the tiniest elementary particle to the unfathomably large suns.

Define gravity and give in less than 42 hundred words what makes gravity happen?

[psyche101]

DONTEATUS, on 07 December 2012 - 02:41 AM, said:

Define gravity and give in less than 42 hundred words what makes gravity happen?

What makes it happen?

Mass.

How does it work?

I am not going to lie to you about this.

Edited by psyche101, 07 December 2012 - 03:14 AM.