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#1    tapirmusic

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 12:01 AM

http://imprint.print...f-the-pointy-s/

A friend of mine mentioned drawing a symbol on his books as a middle-schooler.  I had no idea what he was talking about.  He referred to it as a "stussy".

I started to research it more online and it's getting even weirder.

Seems like kids all over the world draw this symbol that has no meaning, and no one can pinpoint it's origin.

What do you think?

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 12:16 AM

It's like handball - who taught you how to play handball? Noone, you just sort of "did" it, by copying the actions of others.
Or, and I don't know how worldwide this is, how the gap between university study and exams is called "Swatvac" in Queensland, supposedly it means "study what you can vacation" but noone knows who started it, it's just a vestage of someone else's idea that doesn't go away because it's perpetuated by the next generation.

I suspect that in the future, when English has evolved into some other language, the stussy, handball and the phrase "swatvac" will still be in open use.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 12:35 AM

It's strange, but what i don't understand most is why it is drawn mostly by boys. Maybe it is something attractive and easy to be drawn, but i don't get how these students have this ''connection'', to put it in simple terms. On the contrary though it might just be a coincidence from the many that are made every day....dunno what to say!!!

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 12:41 AM

Yes, I know the Stussy symbol. Just make your 3 lines on top and 3 on bottom, and you're set up for a party.

I had totally forgotten about the awesome S I learned in elementary school, but I'm guessing that your age might be around the same ballpark as me (late 20's). I wonder if that might be the case, because I Googled Stussy, and got the wiki page for a clothes designer of Stussy wear, a clothing company out of O.C. in the late '80's. The clothing brand is like urban/street/skate/surf clothes, and has a lot of graffiti style writing in their fashion. I'm guessing that Stussy S was featured in some Stussy wear thing around that time, and it just took off from there, because it was such a sweet S to draw for us kids (c'mon, admit it, you felt like a goddamn Michelangelo every time you completed that S on paper).

I was thinking the same thing about another early '90's thing. All us kids across the U.S. had our NES. And we all passed along the wisdom to each other that blowing in the cartridge would somehow get the game to work. I would visit cousins and friends, and be surprised that they knew the same technique. It was just what you did. That idea must have spread the same way.

edit: you know, now that I think of it, I remember Stussy clothes. I remember my friend Chris used to get made fun of by the rest of our group of friends for wearing these funny Stussy shorts. This was in the mid-late '90's, so Stussy clothes were going from '80's and strong into the '90's.

Edited by _Only, 19 November 2012 - 12:43 AM.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 12:43 AM

Just because its of uncertain origin doesn't mean much in itself.  Its just one of those things that got spread around, a good doodle.


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Posted 19 November 2012 - 12:51 AM

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"I think there may be "ghost phenomenon" that may be still not fully understood or dismissed, but that doesn't make it spirits of the dead, anymore than "UFO" means "spaceship" or even "UFO" or "spaceship" is directly related to aliens, or anything else. There is way too much assumption and a baseless reliance on anecdotal lore, like when people assert this or that about the spirit world or the astral plane or Ouija board demons, or religion. I say 'says WHO?'" - Paranormalcy

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 01:23 AM

Haha these were great. These were all over my school gear once I learned about these.

They looked cool and were pretty fun to make at first, especially when someone else didn't know how you had drawn it.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 02:44 AM

View Post_Only, on 19 November 2012 - 12:41 AM, said:



I was thinking the same thing about another early '90's thing. All us kids across the U.S. had our NES. And we all passed along the wisdom to each other that blowing in the cartridge would somehow get the game to work. I would visit cousins and friends, and be surprised that they knew the same technique. It was just what you did. That idea must have spread the same way.




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Posted 19 November 2012 - 02:50 AM

The logo which has defined the brand started in the early 1980s after Shawn Stussy began scrawling his surname on his handcrafted surfboards with a broad tipped marker.[2] He began using the logo on T-shirts, shorts and caps that he sold out of his car around Laguna Beach, California.[3][4] The signature was derived from that of his uncle, Jan Stussy.[5]
In 1984, Stussy and his friend, Frank Sinatra Jr. (not the singer), partnered to sell the apparel. The company expanded to Europe by 1988 and later opened a boutique store in SoHo, New York. The brand continued to open successful locations throughout the 1990s.[2] It was reported that revenues reached $17 million in 1991[4] and $20 million in 1992.[6] By 1992, the brand was sold throughout the United States at specialty boutiques and department stores alongside other high-priced "California lifestyle" clothing. Outside of the country, the brand was found in specialty shops alongside clothing from high-end international designers.[7]
In 1996, Stussy resigned as president of the company and Sinatra bought his share of the company holdings.[2] According to the company's website, the brand is available in company branded stores and other retailers in Europe, Asia, the United States, Canada and Australia.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 03:37 AM

View PostSakari, on 19 November 2012 - 02:50 AM, said:

The logo which has defined the brand started in the early 1980s after Shawn Stussy began scrawling his surname on his handcrafted surfboards with a broad tipped marker.[2] He began using the logo on T-shirts, shorts and caps that he sold out of his car around Laguna Beach, California.[3][4] The signature was derived from that of his uncle, Jan Stussy.[5]
In 1984, Stussy and his friend, Frank Sinatra Jr. (not the singer), partnered to sell the apparel. The company expanded to Europe by 1988 and later opened a boutique store in SoHo, New York. The brand continued to open successful locations throughout the 1990s.[2] It was reported that revenues reached $17 million in 1991[4] and $20 million in 1992.[6] By 1992, the brand was sold throughout the United States at specialty boutiques and department stores alongside other high-priced "California lifestyle" clothing. Outside of the country, the brand was found in specialty shops alongside clothing from high-end international designers.[7]
In 1996, Stussy resigned as president of the company and Sinatra bought his share of the company holdings.[2] According to the company's website, the brand is available in company branded stores and other retailers in Europe, Asia, the United States, Canada and Australia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stussy

I think that is referring to the iconic stussy logo:

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I have never heard this S-shape being called the stussy logo, or seen it on any stussy clothing actually.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 03:46 AM

Well, reading most of the comments on this page: http://imprint.print...f-the-pointy-s/ I can only deduce that

a. it is a worldwide fad

b. it seems to have thrived mainly on the awesomeness of the S itself, as well as the feeling of awesomeness of anyone who wields its power.

"I think there may be "ghost phenomenon" that may be still not fully understood or dismissed, but that doesn't make it spirits of the dead, anymore than "UFO" means "spaceship" or even "UFO" or "spaceship" is directly related to aliens, or anything else. There is way too much assumption and a baseless reliance on anecdotal lore, like when people assert this or that about the spirit world or the astral plane or Ouija board demons, or religion. I say 'says WHO?'" - Paranormalcy

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 04:42 PM

Boy, that looks like the font for some 80's hair band logo.

Styx comes pretty darned close:

http://www.google.co...c.1.ODDfn9p91WQ

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 10:09 PM

View PostOniomancer, on 19 November 2012 - 04:42 PM, said:

Boy, that looks like the font for some 80's hair band logo.

Styx comes pretty darned close:

http://www.google.co...c.1.ODDfn9p91WQ


I am going with that one :)

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 10:18 PM

I just thought it was something boys drew all over their things.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 12:44 AM

But what exactly are the origins?  Researching this online, it seems like it is found on every continent in the world, always somewhere in middle-school or early high-school.  A few people claim to have seen these as far back as the 1950's.  It's kind of weird that so many different people in different times and places all seem to doodle the same thing with no knowledge of what is is or represents....

Is there a mystery here?  Or am I just looking too far into it?





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