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[Coffey]

Simbi Laveau, on 26 November 2012 - 12:57 AM, said:

How far back you wanna go ?
Let's start with the native Americans ....where are they all ?
Oh yeah,we slaughtered bunches of them . Lest we not forget wounded knee and AIM.

The slave trade .Hunting humans ,in Africa ...Roots ,the story ,is fact based .
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The war with Mexico to STEAL Tejas ...Texas .


The decimation of the American buffalo .
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The Japanese internment camps during WW2,of american Japanese ,and then sending our enlisted American Japanese to Europe to fight the most dangerous battles,but if they died,eh..who cares .Then,bombing Hiroshima and Kyoto ,which was all civilians and women and children .

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Allowing Chinese immigrants to build our railroads,for pennies a day .Die doing it,and once it was built ,making it ILLEGAL for them to have a job or give a Chinese a job,as they were heathens as per the govt.


Duping the Sioux Indians off their land,and shoving them into reservations ,so we could steal the gold that was theirs in the black hills
Which is very similar to what we do in the middle east for oil today .
Any other indians we forced on to reservations ,to take their land..
And these are just a small outline of America's history.
The entire nations history ,is built on the blood of other people .

No,there is no other government quite like ours.
It ,of course,does not reflect the people as a whole ,but no one cares .

Wasn't it British government ruling during the slaughter of the Native Americans though?

Japanese government of WW2 and German government of WW2  (Hitler) where certainly bad as well. British Government has done some nasty things. Israeli government as well. (doing nasty things right now) All the governments do nasty horrible things.

[wolfknight]

Whew I am so glad this didn't happen. That would have serouisly screwed up the lunar obit. The amount of rocks and dust that would have hit the earth would have destoryed everyone.

[Neognosis]

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Whew I am so glad this didn't happen. That would have serouisly screwed up the lunar obit. The amount of rocks and dust that would have hit the earth would have destoryed everyone.

That is probably why it never was really an actual plan.

Just like the Star Wars SDI was never really a plan either. Just stuff we wanted the soviets to think we could do.

[Oniomancer]

True or false, misleading title is misleading.

[Sakari]

JGirl, on 26 November 2012 - 04:14 PM, said:

no disrespect sakari, but i did not read it that way and i doubt simbi did either
i think what she was expressing was that she was embarrassed by her country's actions, not that she is embarrassed to be american. at least that is how i understood it.
someone who loves their country can still be embarrassed by its actions.

Maybe I did not interpet " I am embarrassed to be a American " wrong....

I think it is cleared up either way.

[xCrimsonx]

It doesn't matter from who, or where the story came from or whether it's real or not, people are going to bite at it, it's not a matter of hate just stupidity!

[Simbi Laveau]

and then, on 26 November 2012 - 05:39 AM, said:

They wanted to intimidate the Russians by putting on a high tech light show?  The nuke would have had to be small but  that whole bit about missing and having it come back around in it's orbit at some point was a deal breaker - that's a good thing...

I'm quite sure,if its true ,it wouldn't have been to blow up the entire planet . But to intimidate the Russians ,that it could be done,and as always we get the golden ring.
The space race was quite heated back in the day . We were posturing ,I am sure .

[Simbi Laveau]

JGirl, on 26 November 2012 - 04:23 PM, said:

funny, i feel much much more threatened by the actions of the usa.

It's nice to think so ,but who do you think arms Israel ? We do .
This is the entire crux of the matter of the Gaza strip . Not who is doing the fighting ,but who's arming them both .
Its like Vietnam . The Russians were arming and funding the Vietcong .
We were fighting Russia,but no Russians died . Smart,right ?
War is great,as long as it takes place OVER THERE .

Edited by Simbi Laveau, 27 November 2012 - 02:48 AM.

[Simbi Laveau]

Coffey, on 26 November 2012 - 05:50 PM, said:

Wasn't it British government ruling during the slaughter of the Native Americans though?

Japanese government of WW2 and German government of WW2  (Hitler) where certainly bad as well. British Government has done some nasty things. Israeli government as well. (doing nasty things right now) All the governments do nasty horrible things.

Not at all .Americans slaughtered Indians well past the revolutionary war .
I can look up details if you like ,but it was into mid- late 1800s. It's why we have so many cool photos of Indians. The camera was invented before wild roaming Indians were all forced onto reservations .my favorite is the Lakota Sioux photos. Especially Slow Bull.I love him .

[JGirl]

Simbi Laveau, on 27 November 2012 - 02:47 AM, said:

It's nice to think so ,but who do you think arms Israel ? We do .
This is the entire crux of the matter of the Gaza strip . Not who is doing the fighting ,but who's arming them both .
Its like Vietnam . The Russians were arming and funding the Vietcong .
We were fighting Russia,but no Russians died . Smart,right ?
War is great,as long as it takes place OVER THERE .

exactly.

[Simbi Laveau]

JGirl, on 27 November 2012 - 04:50 AM, said:

exactly.

I think this is one of the best songs ever written about war ,just after Gimmie Shelter .
L7 were an all girl band from LA ,who's songs and deeds ,always caused controversey .
The lyrics sort of hit me first time I heard it,which was when it came out ,in 1992 .
As long as it takes place OVER THERE .

http://www.songmeani...ngs/view/65094/

Check the comments on the vid too .

Edited by Simbi Laveau, 27 November 2012 - 07:16 AM.

[HawkLord]

Hey just remember that no one government has the monopoly on stupid.

[Leave Britney alone!]

JGirl, on 26 November 2012 - 05:08 PM, said:

i do not feel the usa will attack canada - i feel threatened by their actions with regard to the world in general.
arrogance of the magnitude that the government of the usa has is dangerous to everyone.

I define the following as more arrogant and threatening to global security.

"We need to flatten entire neighborhoods in Gaza. Flatten all of Gaza."

—Major Gilad Sharon

"The Americans didn’t stop with Hiroshima – the Japanese weren’t surrendering fast enough, so they hit Nagasaki, too."

—Major Gilad Sharon

"We must blow Gaza back to the Middle Ages, destroying all the infrastructure including roads and water."

—Israeli Deputy Prime Minister Eli Yishai

"The goal of the operation is to send Gaza back to the Middle Ages."

—Israeli Deputy Prime Minister Eli Yishai

They are talking about civilians. The world, we, are not safe until Israel is disarmed.

Edited by I believe you, 27 November 2012 - 03:03 PM.

[JGirl]

I believe you, on 27 November 2012 - 03:00 PM, said:

I define the following as more arrogant and threatening to global security.

"We need to flatten entire neighborhoods in Gaza. Flatten all of Gaza."

—Major Gilad Sharon

"The Americans didn’t stop with Hiroshima – the Japanese weren’t surrendering fast enough, so they hit Nagasaki, too."

—Major Gilad Sharon

"We must blow Gaza back to the Middle Ages, destroying all the infrastructure including roads and water."

—Israeli Deputy Prime Minister Eli Yishai

"The goal of the operation is to send Gaza back to the Middle Ages."

—Israeli Deputy Prime Minister Eli Yishai

They are talking about civilians. The world, we, are not safe until Israel is disarmed.

you can list until the cows come home. usa is still the most arrogant country on the planet. they think they have the right to dictate to the entire world.

[Capt Amerika]

Simbi Laveau, on 26 November 2012 - 02:14 AM, said:

I never said they weren't other slaves. The ancient Romans had slaves . That was actually due to the caste system . You were born into it .

This was ships,full of white Americans ,sailing to Africa ,and CATCHING HUMANS,as if they were animals ,loading dozens of them on a,boat,and shipping them to the new world  .
Forcing them to accept their god .Giving up their language ,freedom and religion ,which is,what they did to the Indians .
We slaughtered the Indians for refusing to accept Christianity in some cases.


The crusades ,luckily ,are on the Europeans ....

You may want to seriously do some research before laying false statements out there for all to see.
Americans at no time in History EVER sailed to Africa to hunt slaves and bring them to America.
Slaves from Africa were sold to the Dutch/European traders by other blacks in Africa.
Mostly from rival tribes.
Africans sold their own people into slavery!
The Dutch and othe European ships then brought the slaves to the colonies where they were purchased by Americans.
Buying them was bad enough but get your facts straight about how they got here.
Other nations that you and your ilk feel are morally superior to the USA are not all good moral nations.