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Santorum's new hobby: Oppose the disabled!


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#1    questionmark

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 09:08 PM

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President-unelect Rick Santorum made his triumphant return to the Capitol on Monday afternoon and took up a brave new cause: He is opposing disabled people.

Specifically, Santorum, joined by Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah), declared his wish that the Senate reject the U.N. Convention on the Rights of Persons With Disabilities— a human rights treaty negotiated during George W. Bush’s administration and ratified by 126 nations, including China, Russia, Iran, Cuba, Syria and Saudi Arabia.

The former presidential candidate pronounced his “grave concerns” about the treaty, which forbids discrimination against people with AIDS, who are blind, who use wheelchairs and the like. “This is a direct assault on us,” he declared at a news conference.

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Well...makes sense. As opposing immigrants now leads to election defeats they might as well find a new enemy :devil:

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 09:14 PM

What in the name of all that is Holy is wrong with that man?


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Posted 27 November 2012 - 09:19 PM

So this is a secret plot by the UN to force America to follow it's own laws?

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 09:27 PM

Rick Santorum the moron! How many more levels of 'low' can the Republicans have left?

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 09:46 PM

Does this mean that we can't discriminate or that we can't tell them no? Theres a big difference. Because if that's what it is I sure agree that we don't need any more affirmative action policies. Otherwise, it seems ok.

Edited by -Mr_Fess-, 27 November 2012 - 09:47 PM.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 10:01 PM

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Im not Santorum fan... but I beg.. please find out WHY he opposes the CRPD and express both sides of it... its not that he opposes it because its about the rights of the disabled.. I mean common sense would tell you that those rights are a given due to the Americans With Disabilities Act passed in 1990...

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While the treaty sounds beneficial, Santorum said Monday on CNN's "Piers Morgan Tonight," it would be harmful because it says the state, not parents, have authority over what is in the best interest of the child.
"This would be something unprecedented in American law, to give the state the ultimate authority as to what is the best interest of your child. Historically, the United States has been very clear, parents, unless they are unfit for some reason, get that decision," Santorum said.
Santorum is the father of a disabled daughter. Three-year-old Bella Santorum was born with trisomy 18, a rare genetic disorder. Santorum said that he worries about what treatments might be available to her if the government were given the authority to say what is in her best interest.

For the love of all that is good, do you think just ONCE some of you people could try to look at both sides of things instead of diving right back into party politics....

http://www.christian...cs-argue-85658/

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 10:17 PM

Santorum needs to go to a sanitarium.

Edited by pallidin, 27 November 2012 - 10:17 PM.


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Posted 27 November 2012 - 10:26 PM

Hmmm....this is going to be an odd statement.

I agree with him.

(Waits for everyone to get back in their chairs)

I have long been an opponent of the Nanny state and this is not going to be any less.  It is not the business of the state to tell anyone what they can and cannot do with their child...it is their child, their flesh and blood.

So what is next down the pike?  They just gonna round up all the kids and send them to a "youth camp" to be "properly educated and cared for"?...  Don't suppose you recall the "Youth camps and organizations" of a certain leader over in Germany back in the 30's and 40's.


Are you ready to relinquish all authority over how your child is raised, fed, educated and cared for?  Thank God my kids are adults now...I would be seething mad if I thought for one minute the State felt it could tell me how to tend to my children...which one was very sick for years but has since recovered.  I guess I did what a parent is supposed to do...Took many trips to expensive specialists but we found the problem.  Do you think the state is going to invest that much time and effort to child #247,739,918?   I don't think so...

Better check up on this folks...this IS NOT freedom.

They can take that part of it and

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 10:42 PM

View PostDredimus, on 27 November 2012 - 10:01 PM, said:

Im not Santorum fan... but I beg.. please find out WHY he opposes the CRPD and express both sides of it... its not that he opposes it because its about the rights of the disabled.. I mean common sense would tell you that those rights are a given due to the Americans With Disabilities Act passed in 1990...



For the love of all that is good, do you think just ONCE some of you people could try to look at both sides of things instead of diving right back into party politics....

http://www.christian...cs-argue-85658/

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This is such a good post I wish I could hit the like button 50 times for it!

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 10:42 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 27 November 2012 - 09:08 PM, said:

Well...makes sense. As opposing immigrants now leads to election defeats they might as well find a new enemy :devil:
Obama opposes this as well.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 11:09 PM

Some might want to actually read the "CONVENTION on the RIGHTS of PERSONS with DISABILITIES" before parroting Rick Santorum's paranoia.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 11:28 PM

View PostGummug, on 27 November 2012 - 10:42 PM, said:


This is such a good post I wish I could hit the like button 50 times for it!
Absolutely. I figured it had more to do with something like that rather than SANTORUM IS OPPOSED TO PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES AND THAT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE BECAUSE HE HAS A DISABLED CHILD WHOM HE IS OPENLY OPPOSED TO. The op here is always the first to point out reactionary statements and unthoughtful ops. I wonder if he'll consider imposing his own bs meter on himself.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 11:47 PM

View Postcormac mac airt, on 27 November 2012 - 11:09 PM, said:

Some might want to actually read the "CONVENTION on the RIGHTS of PERSONS with DISABILITIES" before parroting Rick Santorum's paranoia.

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I will when I can get to it but in the interim I think that I will give a pass to Rick "themoron" for his stance on why this might be a bad thing.  I mean, it is not as if he has any skin in the fight.....or any experience on the subject.  I mean, heck, it is absolutely OBVIOUS that he HATES the disabled and wants them all to just go away along with all their petty insignificant problems.  Stupid republicans.

The only one who sounds as if they are parroting is you, IMO.


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Posted 27 November 2012 - 11:54 PM

View PostRut Roh, on 27 November 2012 - 11:47 PM, said:

I will when I can get to it but in the interim I think that I will give a pass to Rick "themoron" for his stance on why this might be a bad thing.  I mean, it is not as if he has any skin in the fight.....or any experience on the subject.  I mean, heck, it is absolutely OBVIOUS that he HATES the disabled and wants them all to just go away along with all their petty insignificant problems.  Stupid republicans.

The only one who sounds as if they are parroting is you, IMO.

Like I said, try reading it first instead of accepting Santorum's version of what he says it means. Nowhere in it does it take a parents rights away.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 12:11 AM

View Postcormac mac airt, on 27 November 2012 - 11:54 PM, said:



Like I said, try reading it first instead of accepting Santorum's version of what he says it means. Nowhere in it does it take a parents rights away.

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How about reading article 7 of the act and then viewing the legal standpoint of the language within the act itself. Define "states parties" and then tell me where in any law, legislation, or amendment it says that the government.. any government... has the right to decide the best action for the treatment of my or your child...





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