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#31    Balin

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 09:01 AM

Going for the geographically obvious suggestions, somewhere in the mediterranean or into the Atlantic off the coast of Africa.

Recall reading that Heroditus (Greek Theolojan) conjectured that it lay somewhere beyond the Pillars of Hercules.


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Posted 01 December 2012 - 09:39 AM

Most of the theories on the location of Atlantis place it somewhere on or off dry-land.  Based on this, everyone has learned to expect that Atlantis was built on Earth.  What if it floated above the ground orbiting the Earth levitating high up over the mountain tops. This would have been possible when the orbit of the Moon was much closer to the Earth. There is evidence of a powerful impact on the surface of the moon (South Pole Aitken). The force of this impact could have had enough power to cause the Moon to shift out of its original orbit.  The Moon being originally closer to the Earth would have enabled someone on Earth to levitate heavy objects by countering the Earth's gravity with the Moon's. Based on this, my theory is that Atlantis could have also be located high up in the clouds.

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 12:50 PM

The tale does say Atlantis was an Egyptian record of a war that the greeks did not record, a tale put into poetry form by Solon. The reason the greeks did not remember because of the lost of the art of writing remebering the names of their chiefs, but not their actions, from a devastating flood, a third flood before the Deucalion flood of 1529.

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Such was the natural state of the country, which was cultivated, as we may well believe, by true husbandmen, who made husbandry their business, and were lovers of honour, and of a noble nature, and had a soil the best in the world, and abundance of water, and in the heaven above an excellently attempered climate. Now the city in those days was arranged on this wise. In the first place the Acropolis was not as now. For the fact is that a single night of excessive rain washed away the earth and laid bare the rock; at the same time there were earthquakes, and then occurred the extraordinary inundation, which was the third before the great destruction of Deucalion.


I do find it interesting that in this century, the uncovering of the cities found in Cnosus and Thera buried from volcano mud and tsunamis support that time.


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Posted 01 December 2012 - 12:55 PM

The fact is, that wherever the extremity of winter frost or of summer does not prevent, mankind exist, sometimes in greater, sometimes in lesser numbers. And whatever happened either in your country or in ours, or in any other region of which we are informed-if there were any actions noble or great or in any other way remarkable, they have all been written down by us of old, and are preserved in our temples. Whereas just when you and other nations are beginning to be provided with letters and the other requisites of civilized life, after the usual interval, the stream from heaven, like a pestilence, comes pouring down, and leaves only those of you who are destitute of letters and education; and so you have to begin all over again like children, and know nothing of what happened in ancient times, either among us or among yourselves. As for those genealogies of yours which you just now recounted to us, Solon, they are no better than the tales of children. In the first place you remember a single deluge only, but there were many previous ones; in the next place, you do not know that there formerly dwelt in your land the fairest and noblest race of men which ever lived, and that you and your whole city are descended from a small seed or remnant of them which survived. And this was unknown to you, because, for many generations, the survivors of that destruction died, leaving no written word. For there was a time, Solon, before the great deluge of all, when the city which now is Athens was first in war and in every way the best governed of all cities, is said to have performed the noblest deeds and to have had the fairest constitution of any of which tradition tells, under the face of heaven.

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 01:15 PM

I just gave a few answers to some Atlantis questions in the West Africa thread and won't repeat myself, but it's interesting to read what Plato wrote on this theme in The Laws, book 4, which I also linked.

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 09:32 PM

I heard a song called Alt-Land-Is of a band called Kingston Wall from Finland, They said that according to the Bock Saga http://en.wikipedia....ki/Ior_Bock  it derives from alt-land-is which allegedly means all lands ice, they had a legend that says that a long time ago people used to live in a tropical climate, before the ice age, then the world they knew froze over, hence migrating, taking pairs of domesticated animals with them in ships (Noahs Ark http://en.wikipedia....flood_narrative which is another story that connects with many worldwide legends like the epic of gilgamesh http://en.wikipedia....mesh_flood_myth and many other flood myths) So they called this time alt land is which means all lands ice. Basically the song talks about The Aesir and the Vanir people http://en.wikipedia....sir–Vanir_War (mythologically ancient norse gods), But if you look at them as being just an ancient tribe of ancient humans, not actual gods, you start connecting dots So they migrated south and then some migrated back. I believe there is a good probability to this being true because of all the conections they make, its still very interesting. If you get extra creative you can also imagine that the nazis http://en.wikipedia....m_and_symbolism were after the descendants of one of these norse tribes. But thats another story.

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Posted 02 December 2012 - 12:14 AM

I do believe the tale of Atlantis was true. I`m come to the concuslion as much as I wanted it to be the lost city of Tartessos or where everyone else thinks it should be ,the catasophere of the event had to have affected Athens.


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Such was the vast power which the god settled in the lost island of Atlantis; and this he afterwards directed against our land for the following reasons, as tradition tells.


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Posted 02 December 2012 - 01:45 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socotra

Socotra (Arabic: سُقُطْرَى‎ Suquṭra), also spelled Soqotra, is a small archipelago of four islands in the Indian Ocean. The largest island, also called Socotra, is about 95% of the landmass of the archipelago. It lies some 240 kilometres (150 mi) east of the Horn of Africa and 380 kilometres (240 mi) south of the Arabian Peninsula.[2] The island is very isolated and through the process of speciation, a third of its plant life is found nowhere else on the planet. It has been described as the most alien-looking place on Earth. The island measures 132 kilometres (82 mi) in length and 49.7 kilometres (30.9 mi) in width

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Posted 02 December 2012 - 04:30 AM

atlantis was in a book

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Posted 02 December 2012 - 06:31 AM

View PostBalin, on 01 December 2012 - 09:01 AM, said:

Going for the geographically obvious suggestions, somewhere in the mediterranean or into the Atlantic off the coast of Africa.

Recall reading that Heroditus (Greek Theolojan) conjectured that it lay somewhere beyond the Pillars of Hercules.
You're thinking of Plato, not Herodotus, and neither was a theolojan, nor even a theologian.

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Posted 02 December 2012 - 06:33 AM

View PostDuncansmom, on 01 December 2012 - 12:25 AM, said:

No offense  ( but my father is a relative of Bret Hart, so I will claim it ))) Why Why Why a HORSE !!!!!1

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Posted 02 December 2012 - 07:55 PM

View PostPHFATY, on 01 December 2012 - 09:39 AM, said:

Most of the theories on the location of Atlantis place it somewhere on or off dry-land.  Based on this, everyone has learned to expect that Atlantis was built on Earth.  What if it floated above the ground orbiting the Earth levitating high up over the mountain tops. This would have been possible when the orbit of the Moon was much closer to the Earth. There is evidence of a powerful impact on the surface of the moon (South Pole Aitken). The force of this impact could have had enough power to cause the Moon to shift out of its original orbit.  The Moon being originally closer to the Earth would have enabled someone on Earth to levitate heavy objects by countering the Earth's gravity with the Moon's. Based on this, my theory is that Atlantis could have also be located high up in the clouds.
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Posted 03 December 2012 - 04:29 AM

I had a dream where mighty Cthulu came to me with his brother Hastor, and they told me that Atlantis is only a story that Plato used in his Dialogs. Plato was not a historian. He was a politician. He would not have put history into his Diaglogs without there being a clear political message behind it. And... to the ancient Greeks the message was clear. It is only modern idiots (Cthulu's words not mine) to whom the meaning is not clear.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 05:41 AM

If there is a place called heaven and Plato lives in it, I bet he just laughs and laughs everytime two people come together to argue about where the hell Atlantis is.  Wouldn't the simplest answer truly be that Atlantis was a fictional creation by Plato and nothing more?


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Posted 03 December 2012 - 10:58 AM

View PostBalin, on 01 December 2012 - 09:01 AM, said:

Going for the geographically obvious suggestions, somewhere in the mediterranean or into the Atlantic off the coast of Africa.


That's what I think as well....

My pet theory is that Ascension Island in the South Atlantic is a remaining part of Atlantis.

And this is what Deep Sea soundings are said to show of a past land mass in the Atlantic...

An island in the North with a connecting ridge going south.

http://www.sacred-te...w/img/04700.jpg


sketch map from here...(there are certainly better maps somewhere but this one will do...:))


http://www.sacred-te...taw/ataw105.htm





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