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Is it time for a new Constitution?


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#1    Pyridium

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 06:12 PM

Is it possible that we are on the brink of a new, "modern" Constitution?  Could you imagine a constitution that kept the best of the old and got rid of the horse and buggy language of slavery.  Can you imagine a constitution written in today's hi tech style.  Appoint a "Constitutional committee" and we should have a draft to vote on in a few weeks.

Obama now feels a sense of destiny.  He wants a constitution that increases the term of office for president.  He wants to have the power to raise the debt ceiling when "he" wants to and not be bothered with the congress approving it.

It will take only one dominoe to fall to make our entire system collapse, and Obama will be there to pick up the pieces, declare a state of emergency and federalize the entire economy.  The new constitution will ensure fairness and freedom for all.

When do we begin the discussion about a new constitution?  Maybe when we have 50% umployment and 150 million on food stamps?


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Posted 05 December 2012 - 06:17 PM

This is why we have amendments, so we can change the Constitution. I understand that it's bloody hard to pass a new amendment but that was the point, it was supposed to be difficult but not impossible to change the Constitution. I hear the term 'living document' a lot.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 06:18 PM

I would not go as far as saying that a new constitution is needed, but it has to be amended to the circumstances of the time. Like a prohibition to make debt except in case of extreme disaster and then only if it is paid back within two legislation periods. A more defined personal freedom and  some more direct democratic participation could be in order.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 06:48 PM

It does not really matter. When the constitution gets in the way politicans just ignore it. Same thing happens to any piece of paper.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 06:56 PM

The only Americans that I have read of that want to get rid of the US Constitution in the USA are the ones who have petitioned to have their states leave break off and no longer be part of the USA. Despite all of the good and positive things that the current US president has achieved, they are convinced from listening to Republican propaganda media such as FOX and the Rush radio show that he has done nothing but bad things for the nation.

The largest problem the USA is facing in terms of having a functioning government today is the militant fascist movement that has taken over the Republican party through the use of media. They even shamed and disgraced the aged former Republican leaders, one brought in sitting in a wheelchair on the senate floor, by voting down the US disabilities treaty that was the legacy of former president George Bush and senator Robert Dole because the Noe-fascist Republicans declared it a UN plot to by nations like North Korea and Iran to destroy home schooling in the USA.

Yes the USA has really big, really serious problem in its government, but the problem is not the current president.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 07:40 PM

View PostPyridium, on 05 December 2012 - 06:12 PM, said:

Is it possible that we are on the brink of a new, "modern" Constitution?  Could you imagine a constitution that kept the best of the old and got rid of the horse and buggy language of slavery.  Can you imagine a constitution written in today's hi tech style.  Appoint a "Constitutional committee" and we should have a draft to vote on in a few weeks.

Obama now feels a sense of destiny.  He wants a constitution that increases the term of office for president.  He wants to have the power to raise the debt ceiling when "he" wants to and not be bothered with the congress approving it.

It will take only one dominoe to fall to make our entire system collapse, and Obama will be there to pick up the pieces, declare a state of emergency and federalize the entire economy.  The new constitution will ensure fairness and freedom for all.


When do we begin the discussion about a new constitution?  Maybe when we have 50% umployment and 150 million on food stamps?

What a bunch of BS!! Obama has never said, nor even hinted, that this is the case, neither does the Domecratic Party Neither does any Govt have the power to make these decisions.

Just what is it you do not like about Obama? Is it his colour (look around you ), is it his Politics?? (Compare with G.W. Bush), is it because he won the National Vote and you were not included in the voters that re-elected him?

This is just a trolling post to allow you to vent your hatred of your President (YES, he is YOUR President), who has enormous standing in the rest of the World. A chance to rebuild the status of the USA Internationally, to build alliances both Political and commercial - you need seriously, to grow up some.


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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:32 PM

Wow, it only took one extreme liberal to launch into a racist rant.  We should put this in the new constitution, everybody that has an opinion against Obama is a racist!!

You sure do spew some vile hatred for no apparent reason except to pound your own chest and declare all conservatives as stupid.  It is attitudes like yours that point to total human meltdowns based on your own idea of reality.

I asked a question.  When is it time to consider a new constitution?  This country is on the verge of collapse, Obama is president, he will be responsible for putting humpty dumpty back together again.  If you want to change america, change the constitution.  Obama will be in the perfect position to be the "hero" and King for the next few decades.


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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:48 PM

View PostPyridium, on 05 December 2012 - 08:32 PM, said:

Wow, it only took one extreme liberal to launch into a racist rant.  We should put this in the new constitution, everybody that has an opinion against Obama is a racist!!

You sure do spew some vile hatred for no apparent reason except to pound your own chest and declare all conservatives as stupid.  It is attitudes like yours that point to total human meltdowns based on your own idea of reality.

I asked a question.  When is it time to consider a new constitution?  This country is on the verge of collapse, Obama is president, he will be responsible for putting humpty dumpty back together again.  If you want to change america,
change the constitution.  Obama will be in the perfect position to be the "hero" and King for the next few decades.

Yes, I've noticed these morons tend to shriek "RACIST" at anyone who criticises obama. The obligatory "well do you like bush?" is always comical too since obama has extended everything bush was hated for.

But I don't really see the need for a new constitution, it's just ignored anyway.


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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:53 PM

Question: What do you call a person who wins an argument with a liberal?

Answer: A racist.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 09:04 PM

View PostPyridium, on 05 December 2012 - 06:12 PM, said:


When do we begin the discussion about a new constitution?  Maybe when we have 50% umployment and 150 million on food stamps?
Never. As mentioned, amendments are the way to enact changes. We don't need a reformed constitution. We do need people in charge of playing by its rules to play by its rules. Quit twisting it, ignoring it and "interpreting" things it doesn't say.


View PostPyridium, on 05 December 2012 - 08:32 PM, said:

Wow, it only took one extreme liberal to launch into a racist rant.  We should put this in the new constitution, everybody that has an opinion against Obama is a racist!!

You sure do spew some vile hatred for no apparent reason except to pound your own chest and declare all conservatives as stupid.  It is attitudes like yours that point to total human meltdowns based on your own idea of reality.

I asked a question.  When is it time to consider a new constitution?  This country is on the verge of collapse, Obama is president, he will be responsible for putting humpty dumpty back together again.  If you want to change america, change the constitution.  Obama will be in the perfect position to be the "hero" and King for the next few decades.
Man I have never been able to figure you out. You're so over the top with pro-Obama idealism that I can't tell if you're serious or sarcastic. WHAT IS IT MAN?!?! According to this post you appear to be a conservative with an applaudable handling of the twitchy intolerant liberal above but then in your last paragraph and apparently the point of the op you seem to yearn for such insane things as you have many times before.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 09:37 PM

Paranoia about a fictional Obama dictatorship aside I don't see a new Constitution being done up any time soon. Reforms and a rework perhaps, but not a brand new one. The current version is doing ok for the most part. Besides too many Americans see the Constitution as an almost holy document that any hint of doing away with it, even to come up with a new version, would be political suicide.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 09:40 PM

Why get a new one if you don´t bother to pay attention to the existing one?

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 10:09 PM

We didn't need a new constitution to pass anti trust legislation or the glass-steagall  act,   (or to demolish them) ...  but ,   our constitution is still a useable framework?
And , as has been noted, contains means of amendment  .

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 10:55 PM

Obama rips U.S. Constitution


http://www.wnd.com/2008/10/79225/




The federal government will spend more than $668 billion on anti-poverty programs this year, an increase of 41 percent or more than $193 billion since President Barack Obama took office. State and local government expenditures will amount to another $284 billion, bringing the total to nearly $1 trillion — far more than the $685 billion spent on defense.”

Edited by docyabut2, 05 December 2012 - 11:14 PM.


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Posted 05 December 2012 - 11:22 PM

View Postdocyabut2, on 05 December 2012 - 10:55 PM, said:

The federal government will spend more than $668 billion on anti-poverty programs this year, an increase of 41 percent or more than $193 billion since President Barack Obama took office. State and local government expenditures will amount to another $284 billion, bringing the total to nearly $1 trillion — far more than the $685 billion spent on defense.”
Good, nice to see your lot trying to get your own house in order and trying to be the Christian Nation your demagogues proclaim you to be.





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