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#1    MR.Blueprint

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:06 AM

So we believe that the sun is apart of a binarys system with another STAR CAUSING PERSECTION  and it rostates every 24000 years.

and we know ancient civilazation knew much more about the subject than we do.
what if the mayans knew that in 24,000yrs that the other dead sun/star would collide into our sun eventually......






but really i think nothing is goin to happen. just a different weather pattern.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:31 AM

That theory would make good science fiction.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:27 AM

View PostHilander, on 06 December 2012 - 01:31 AM, said:

That theory would make good science fiction.

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Yea but its possible maybe %10 possible.. ancient civilization been knew bout persection and problaly knew what caused it.
the mayans might have knew in 2400yrs the dead star would collide into our sun because thats the cycle and they figured it out.

and i do believe if the binary theory is correct than eventually the cycle would have to end prolly with the two stars pulling into each other, colliding, making another big bang and thats the cycle of the universe but who knows when this would happen/

maybe the mayans knew

Edited by MR.Blueprint, 06 December 2012 - 02:28 AM.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 05:47 AM

Another Big Bang? Do you really think that if two stars smash into each other it will make another Big Bang? Sad if you do.


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Posted 06 December 2012 - 10:22 AM

View PostMR.Blueprint, on 06 December 2012 - 02:27 AM, said:

Yea but its possible maybe %10 possible.. ancient civilization been knew bout persection and problaly knew what caused it.
the mayans might have knew in 2400yrs the dead star would collide into our sun because thats the cycle and they figured it out.

and i do believe if the binary theory is correct than eventually the cycle would have to end prolly with the two stars pulling into each other, colliding, making another big bang and thats the cycle of the universe but who knows when this would happen/

maybe the mayans knew

Firstly, how on Earth could ancient civilisations know more about the cosmos than we do, without radio telescopes, satellites, advanced astronomy and modern physics? It makes no sense, they didn't even have binoculars.

Secondly, "persection" is not a word in the English language.

Thirdly, the Mayan calendar has no 24000 year cycles and the Mayans have never predicted any end of the world scenario in connection with the coming of the 14th b'ak'tun.

And lastly, stars are big and bright and are easy to see. The closest star is Proxima Centauri, which is 4.24 light years away, which is too distant for it to be in a binary system with the sun. Even if we're talking about a dead star (a black hole), we would know about it. And two stars colliding could never cause a Big Bang. Compared to the mass of the whole universe, two stars are practically nothing.


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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:47 AM

I think he means precession LoL and its every 26000 years.


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Posted 06 December 2012 - 12:29 PM

Maybe, but it still makes no sense. The axial precession of Earth is 26000 years, but that has no bearings on the Sun's behaviour and it has nothing to do with any other star.


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Posted 06 December 2012 - 03:29 PM

View PostClobhair-cean, on 06 December 2012 - 10:22 AM, said:

Firstly, how on Earth could ancient civilisations know more about the cosmos than we do, without radio telescopes, satellites, advanced astronomy and modern physics? It makes no sense, they didn't even have binoculars.
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Secondly, "persection" is not a word in the English language.

Thirdly, the Mayan calendar has no 24000 year cycles and the Mayans have never predicted any end of the world scenario in connection with the coming of the 14th b'ak'tun.

And lastly, stars are big and bright and are easy to see. The closest star is Proxima Centauri, which is 4.24 light years away, which is too distant for it to be in a binary system with the sun. Even if we're talking about a dead star (a black hole), we would know about it. And two stars colliding could never cause a Big Bang. Compared to the mass of the whole universe, two stars are practically nothing.


1st....... ANCIENT civilisations could know more bout the cosmos than us because the cosmos were different then and maybe more easier to observe

2nd the mayans couldve figured out the cycle of percession wit two stars and thats why they made the calender too end and dissappear maybe from hysteria of knowin too much


3rd how could we see a dead star thats not illuminated and has a huge orbit. bigger than our solar system..





Another Big Bang? Do you really think that if two stars smash into each other it will make another Big Bang? Sad if you do.






do u know what causes big bangs? an exploding star can cause a big bang. which is really a lil bang in the universe we call it a big bang because its big to us

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 03:32 PM

Please don't say the Mayans knew more about the universe than us.  It is a ridiculous statement.

Edited by Merc14, 06 December 2012 - 03:34 PM.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 04:00 PM

View PostMerc14, on 06 December 2012 - 03:32 PM, said:

Please don't say the Mayans knew more about the universe than us.  It is a ridiculous statement.

i know its hard to believe but they knew atleast as much as we do now if not more...shid we thought the world was flat. we thought we were the center of the solar system at one point.

so we defiantly can say the mayans knew more than we did at those points....right?

because they knew the earth was round and the sun was the center of the universe

who to say what they knew that we dont know at this point?

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 04:48 PM

View PostMR.Blueprint, on 06 December 2012 - 03:29 PM, said:

1st....... ANCIENT civilisations could know more bout the cosmos than us because the cosmos were different then and maybe more easier to observe

Nope. The cosmos wasn't particularly different a few thousand years ago. No ancient civilisation even managed to acquire a half-decent understanding of our solar system. No-one knew that Uranus, the third largest planet of the Solar System until the 17th century.

View PostMR.Blueprint, on 06 December 2012 - 03:29 PM, said:

2nd the mayans couldve figured out the cycle of percession wit two stars and thats why they made the calender too end and dissappear maybe from hysteria of knowin too much

The Mayan calendar does not end. And they couldn't have figured out a cycle of precession, because they did not know of precession.

View PostMR.Blueprint, on 06 December 2012 - 03:29 PM, said:

3rd how could we see a dead star thats not illuminated and has a huge orbit. bigger than our solar system..

Because we are not only using our eyes to see it. We can spot Black Holes (which are the only kind of dead stars) through looking for x-ray radiation and the signs its immense gravitational pull exerts on its surroundings.

View PostMR.Blueprint, on 06 December 2012 - 03:29 PM, said:

do u know what causes big bangs? an exploding star can cause a big bang. which is really a lil bang in the universe we call it a big bang because its big to us

Nope. The Big Bang was a singular event that was the rapid expansion of all matter in the universe from a point of singularity. Of all matter, everything that makes up the billions and billions of stars, planets, even space itself. Compared to that, whatever stars do is insignificant.


View PostMR.Blueprint, on 06 December 2012 - 04:00 PM, said:

i know its hard to believe but they knew atleast as much as we do now if not more...shid we thought the world was flat. we thought we were the center of the solar system at one point.

so we defiantly can say the mayans knew more than we did at those points....right?

because they knew the earth was round and the sun was the center of the universe

who to say what they knew that we dont know at this point?

You are wrong. The Maya did not know that the Earth was round, nor did they believe that the planets revolved around the Sun (an if they believed that the Sun was the centre of the universe, that would prove that they knew less than we do, because the Sun is just a minor star in an average galaxy, and not the centre of anything apart from our solar system). Unlike, I have to say, Indian, Greek and Hellenistic scientists. The Greeks figured out that the Earth was round by the 6th century BCE and proposed the first Heliocentric model in the 3rd century BCE.


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Posted 06 December 2012 - 05:16 PM

To MR.Blueprint :

So we believe that the sun is part of a binary system with another STAR CAUSING PERSECTION  and it rotates every 24000 years.

No, "we" don't believe that, but it is an idea, yes.

and we know ancient civilization knew much more about the subject than we do.

No, we don't know that, but it is what many love to believe because reading up on science is boring and not tickling our fantasy-nerves.

what if the mayans knew that in 24,000yrs the other dead sun/star would collide into our sun eventually......

Yeah, what if... but they didn't know about that, or else you would have posted a link to a site about it.

but really i think nothing is going to happen. just a different weather pattern.

I think nothing out of the ordinary is going to happen.


(My excuses for editing your post, but jesus... And what is "persection"?? )


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Edited by Abramelin, 06 December 2012 - 05:50 PM.


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Posted 06 December 2012 - 06:41 PM

View PostMR.Blueprint, on 06 December 2012 - 04:00 PM, said:

i know its hard to believe but they knew atleast as much as we do now if not more...shid we thought the world was flat. we thought we were the center of the solar system at one point.

so we defiantly can say the mayans knew more than we did at those points....right?

because they knew the earth was round and the sun was the center of the universe

who to say what they knew that we dont know at this point?

You are not thinking rationally. They were good observers of their part of the sky but were little else. To compare them to a civilization equipped with space based telescopes, massive earth based telescopes, radio telescopes, rovers on distant planets and myriad other highly advanced tools is ludicrous because there is no comparison.  Thyey were good observers and record keepers, period.

The Maya didn't know the composition of a star or that we have 8 planets in our solar system.  They believed the earth was flat and that the venus was "The Great Star", hell they never even differentiated between stars and planets even though they observed that their movement across the sky was not the same.  They didn't know about gravity or that light had a speed.  No wheel or compass.  They did believe in human sacrifice though.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 06:58 PM

Actually, mesoamerican societies did know the wheel, but they only used them on toys, as they had no beasts of burden available anywhere.


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Posted 06 December 2012 - 08:06 PM

This thread has so much wrong information in in. Stars colliding into big bangs? The universe being easier to observe a few thousand years ago?

Why don't people study science instead of trying to make it up as they go to fit their crackpot ideas?

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