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A ban on the display of cigarettes in Scotland's shops will come into force in April 2013 after a tobacco firm lost its legal fight to stop the move.

http://www.bbc.co.uk...litics-20691956

[Urisk]

I'm not a smoker but even I think this is draconian.

[ealdwita]

"Thank you for looking after us, Nanny"

[skookum]

After these ludicrous nibbling around the edges of the smoking issue isn't it time just to ban it?  I don't think civil rights can be used as opposition now as they have banned people smoking just about everywhere and got away with it.  

Oh wait it's the revenue loss they don't want to stomach, same as in the UK.

[with bells on]

we have had that for a few years in Australia.. now we have it on the cig packet itself.. i am a former smoker, and stupidly bought a packet two weeks ago when i had a weak moment, sigh.. (i wet them all after smoking two) but to my horror, the whole packet had zero anything on it, except grotesque pictures of cancer and a simple and small wording of what brand it was.. we had the horrid pictures before, but at least you could still see what brand the packet was.. as for me the packet was part of the attraction.. so i guess cigarette cases will make a massive come back.. and cigs cost about $17 a packet here too.. the govt makes most of that money.. i bet they will ban them entirely in another 20 years..

[zebra99]

"The ban on tobacco product displays is already in force in England, Wales and Northern Ireland."

Where?....Shops I go in have the display at the back of the counter like they always have.

[DKO]

Just like 'with bells on' said, its been like that in Australia for years. Now this is what the cigarette packets look like here:





Hasn't stopped any of my mates from smoking.

Also I've noticed there are a lot of cigarette cases/tins on sale now at service stations etc.

[Corp]

We a display ban in Canada. Still plenty of people smoking.

[synchronomy]

Corp, on 17 December 2012 - 05:56 PM, said:

We a display ban in Canada. Still plenty of people smoking.

Ottawa! Great place.

I'm always amazed with the convenience store employees when someone asks for cigarettes.  They have dozens of little doors hiding the smokes and they always seem to know where each brand is.
Just shows you there's a lot of people still smoking.

[questionmark]

DKO, on 16 December 2012 - 01:14 PM, said:

Just like 'with bells on' said, its been like that in Australia for years. Now this is what the cigarette packets look like here:





Hasn't stopped any of my mates from smoking.

Also I've noticed there are a lot of cigarette cases/tins on sale now at service stations etc.

Now will it until they get aware of the fact that nicotine is many times more addictive than heroin and they realize that it is tobacco driving them, not themselves.

[AsteroidX]

Thats what they wanted to dump on us in america ? Damn.

[Urisk]

zebra99, on 16 December 2012 - 01:01 PM, said:

"The ban on tobacco product displays is already in force in England, Wales and Northern Ireland."

Where?....Shops I go in have the display at the back of the counter like they always have.

I was speaking to someone from Brum at the weekend who was saying they're in some cabinet now?


I really am a strict non-smoker, I absolutely abhor it, and think that the ban in enclosed places (like pubs) was the best move, but for crying out loud, if grown adults want to smoke, why make them feel embarrassed about it, like it's some taboo? We're old enough to make our own decisions. Even kids- I made the conscious decision even though a good few of my friends smoked. Hell, I even really enjoyed reading the Lambert and Butler ads on all the Billhoardings, and actually felt sad reading the last one.

[synchronomy]

Urisk, on 17 December 2012 - 07:27 PM, said:

I was speaking to someone from Brum at the weekend who was saying they're in some cabinet now?


I really am a strict non-smoker, I absolutely abhor it, and think that the ban in enclosed places (like pubs) was the best move, but for crying out loud, if grown adults want to smoke, why make them feel embarrassed about it, like it's some taboo? We're old enough to make our own decisions. Even kids- I made the conscious decision even though a good few of my friends smoked. Hell, I even really enjoyed reading the Lambert and Butler ads on all the Billhoardings, and actually felt sad reading the last one.

I smoke.  Not proud of it.

We have no smoking in all public places including pubs, restaurants, shopping malls etc.  In some places it's banned outdoors.  Government buildings and hospitals you can't smoke within ten meters of the entrance.
And even outdoors, you are not allowed to smoke at a bus stop!

[MissMelsWell]

questionmark, on 17 December 2012 - 06:47 PM, said:

Now will it until they get aware of the fact that nicotine is many times more addictive than heroin and they realize that it is tobacco driving them, not themselves.

Nicotine by itself isn't actually all that addictive... no more so than caffiene is. But nicotine combined with cynide, carbon monoxide, and nicosamide and the 3000 other chemicals in cigarettes are HIGHLY addictive.

10 months ago I switched to an ecig in which the only active ingedient is nicotine. I don't crave it any more than I crave a cup of coffee and can go hours and hours without a nicotine hit... in fact, I could dump the nicotine in the liquid I use and be fine with it, in fact, I have mostly dumped the nicotine solutions, I don't really notice a difference.

[MichaelW]

Those packets that are being branded with those images are actually making the tobacco companies richer, not poorer. If the companies don't have to waste money designing and making branding for their products, it means they have a marginal but noticeable increase in yearly profits.

Same goes for banning advertising. Thousands or even millions of dollars each year not needed to spend on advertising.