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#1    little_dreamer

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 05:36 PM

Do you have any experience with people who bragged about fake or exagerrated military experience.  Is this common?  I've casually talked to people who said they were veterans of some kind.   My family does not have a recent military background so I don't know enough about it.  

This is a general question relating to this post. Some people are being promoted, networking based on fake military experience.
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 05:52 PM

I suppose it's the Walter Mitty syndrome, isn't it. Also found in (for example) people who claim to be Astronauts, therefore adding credibility to their claims of knowing the truth about Extraterrestrials.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 06:01 PM

There seems to be plenty in the field of ufology.  They embellish what they were exposed to, especially if they had secret clearance or higher or work for some black-ops organizations.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 06:17 PM

i have met a few of these sad people, i live not too far from the SAS base, the local pubs have a few individuals that claim to either have been or still are in 'the regiment' of course had they really been they would never brag about it. I also worked with one man who was a compulsive lair he claimed to have been both in the army and the police, however i was his manager and had access to his file so i knew his employment history from school, he also once phoned in sick after claiming to have fallen down the stairs on his way to work and broken his ankle, he lived in a bungalow.....

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 06:22 PM

People fake all kinds of ****, military exp is no different..there's probably as many reasons why as there are fakers.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 06:24 PM

I've encountered quite a few on the net. What they fail to realize is that after a few minutes of conversation anyone that has actually been in the military can spot their hogwash. I talked to a guy in chat room about 2 months ago that said he was in the Army and had been to Iraq 3 times... The only question I asked him was what his MOS was... he dodged that question for quite a bit before ponying up that he didnt know what an MOS is... Ive had people try to convince me that they were officers and NCO's alike... There was a gent in a chat room once that tried to convince me he was a fighter pilot... (he was 19). So it seems to be commonplace in this digital era.


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Posted 17 December 2012 - 07:08 PM

Every country has 'em......

http://www.telegraph...ay-marcher.html

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 07:25 PM

There was an old guy here in NZ, I'm talking in his 60's or 70's, who wore some veitnam medals at the RSA. All the other old Returned Servicemen found out he'd never been to Veitnam and they gave him a right verbal bashing, kicked him out and struck his name off the list of Returned Servicemen.. Even wearing medals and claiming you served when you didn't is seriously frowned upon in NZ.


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Posted 17 December 2012 - 07:28 PM

View PostDredimus, on 17 December 2012 - 06:24 PM, said:

I've encountered quite a few on the net. What they fail to realize is that after a few minutes of conversation anyone that has actually been in the military can spot their hogwash. I talked to a guy in chat room about 2 months ago that said he was in the Army and had been to Iraq 3 times... The only question I asked him was what his MOS was... he dodged that question for quite a bit before ponying up that he didnt know what an MOS is... Ive had people try to convince me that they were officers and NCO's alike... There was a gent in a chat room once that tried to convince me he was a fighter pilot... (he was 19). So it seems to be commonplace in this digital era.

But how would us non-military folk be able to spot them?

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 07:35 PM

View PostLady Kasey, on 17 December 2012 - 07:28 PM, said:

But how would us non-military folk be able to spot them?
I suspect one way would be that they talk about their experiences "During the war" a great deal. I think people who actually have done tend not to do that so much.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 07:54 PM

View Post747400, on 17 December 2012 - 07:35 PM, said:

I suspect one way would be that they talk about their experiences "During the war" a great deal. I think people who actually have done tend not to do that so much.

I think a lot of that depends on the context. Many old soldiers like nothing more than to 'pull up a sandbag' and swap stories with their contemporaries, whether from their own 'outfits' or some other. But I don't think it would be easy for a civilian to tell unless the tales were very tall!

I must admit, I do tend to rabbit on a bit from time to time, but it's only because I miss the comradeship of 'my lads' and the Regimental 'family', neither of which can be imitated in Civvy Street.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 08:09 PM

View Postealdwita, on 17 December 2012 - 07:54 PM, said:

I think a lot of that depends on the context. Many old soldiers like nothing more than to 'pull up a sandbag' and swap stories with their contemporaries, whether from their own 'outfits' or some other. But I don't think it would be easy for a civilian to tell unless the tales were very tall!

I must admit, I do tend to rabbit on a bit from time to time, but it's only because I miss the comradeship of 'my lads' and the Regimental 'family', neither of which can be imitated in Civvy Street.
i think that's probably the difference with the Walter Mitty types, the difference between sharing yarns with your pals and sharing them with anyone you meet in order to impress them, particularly when these people are Ladies.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 08:55 PM

Does a guy who pretended to be a navy seal but really was a cook count?

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 08:59 PM

View Postealdwita, on 17 December 2012 - 07:08 PM, said:

Every country has 'em......
http://www.telegraph...ay-marcher.html

He should have thrown in World War I medals as well.   This seems to be a global problem.

View Post747400, on 17 December 2012 - 08:09 PM, said:

i think that's probably the difference with the Walter Mitty types, the difference between sharing yarns with your pals and sharing them with anyone you meet in order to impress them, particularly when these people are Ladies.

That must have been when I heard it!

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 09:02 PM

View PostSeeker79, on 17 December 2012 - 08:55 PM, said:

Does a guy who pretended to be a navy seal but really was a cook count?

You need far more courage and military know-how to be a military cook than a SEAL! (Especially if you have to fabricate a SatCom system out of an umbrella, two milk crates and a cheeseburger to contact US Naval HQ and defeat the terrorists, aided only by a blonde piece of crumpet with amazing legs!)

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