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#1    smurf0852

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 05:25 PM

yes ukip showing there true colours with this one.

http://www.guardian....-downs-syndrome


A disability charity has expressed dismay after a Ukip candidate suggested forcing mothers carrying foetuses with Downs syndrome or spina bifida to have abortions to avoid the child being "a burden on the state as well as on the family".

this guy sounds like a disgusting excuse of a human.
nice to see our third most popular party has such nazi like beliefs.


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Posted 18 December 2012 - 05:42 PM

A natural evolution of socialized healthcare.  As economic times get tougher more and more of this type of thing will be proposed.


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Posted 18 December 2012 - 05:50 PM

This is not a UKIP policy. They suspended the guy straight away so I don't see how that constitutes Nazi like beliefs.


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Posted 18 December 2012 - 05:51 PM

Its not the views or position held by UKIP, but dont let that get in the way of a good headline - these views are solely his own. hes not the first nor the last political candidate of any party to have unpopular views. - myself i dont agree with any of the quotes he made. -  i'd like to think UKIP would pull his candidacy, and terminate his party membership. i think he's over stepped the mark fatally wounded himself in any form of politics.

once i read the headlines 'UKIP now third political party in the UK' - I did wonder how long it would take before something like this would happen, the political daggers are out in force.

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 08:20 PM

View Poststevewinn, on 18 December 2012 - 05:51 PM, said:

Its not the views or position held by UKIP, but dont let that get in the way of a good headline - these views are solely his own. hes not the first nor the last political candidate of any party to have unpopular views. - myself i dont agree with any of the quotes he made. -  i'd like to think UKIP would pull his candidacy, and terminate his party membership. i think he's over stepped the mark fatally wounded himself in any form of politics.

once i read the headlines 'UKIP now third political party in the UK' - I did wonder how long it would take before something like this would happen, the political daggers are out in force.


Yes, it's started. Notice that it was the BBC & Guardian that jumped all over this.....no surprise there.

Funny they never mention any of these though do they :-

http://www.harrowtim..._arrest/?ref=mr

http://www.peterboro...harge-1-4253975

http://www.thisislei...tail/story.html

http://cllrkevinedwa...-of-labour.html

http://www.rochdaleo...ild-pornography

http://www.theregist...ing_man_jailed/


Be honest, have you seen any of these reported on the BBC?

Edited by itsnotoutthere, 18 December 2012 - 08:29 PM.

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 08:37 PM

View Poststevewinn, on 18 December 2012 - 05:51 PM, said:

Its not the views or position held by UKIP, but dont let that get in the way of a good headline - these views are solely his own. hes not the first nor the last political candidate of any party to have unpopular views. - myself i dont agree with any of the quotes he made. -  i'd like to think UKIP would pull his candidacy, and terminate his party membership. i think he's over stepped the mark fatally wounded himself in any form of politics.

once i read the headlines 'UKIP now third political party in the UK' - I did wonder how long it would take before something like this would happen, the political daggers are out in force.

Let the negative politics begin.


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Posted 18 December 2012 - 08:49 PM

Hold on. When a child is born with down syndrome or some other birth defects they often require 24hour care. The carer is most likely to be the parents. Over here, our government pays for an outside carer to look after the child (or adult) for a certain amount of hours (20 i think) per week. It was recently ruled that the parents should be paid to care for the child as the human rights bill says you cannot discriminate on the basis of being a family (i.e. the carer gets paid, why shouldn't I?).

So therefore, knowingly bringing a disabled child into this world is equivilent to asking for thousands of dollars a year from the tax payer. I disagree with forcing people into a corner over the issue, but you cannot deny that most children with disablities are a drain on the tax payer to some extent.

That being said, even the most stupid politician should know not to shoot his mouth off over a highly emotional issue such as this.

Edit: I thought i better add that I in no way support forced abortions or eugenic style killing of the "less worthy"

Edited by Professor Buzzkill, 18 December 2012 - 08:52 PM.


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Posted 18 December 2012 - 09:22 PM

View Posttyrant lizard, on 18 December 2012 - 05:50 PM, said:

This is not a UKIP policy. They suspended the guy straight away so I don't see how that constitutes Nazi like beliefs.

Never trust a left wing extremist to be forward with the full facts lol


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Posted 18 December 2012 - 10:54 PM

i must confess i put this on just to see the reaction i got from the forums righty tighty community .that said do you really think this idiot would have had the b******s to spout this stupidity if he was the only person in his party to hold these beliefs.these things are discussed among peer groups.to think this is one idiot spouting his own personal opinion in isolation is naive.
itsnotoutthere nice links to some utter scum dressed as politicians .however i was not talking about individual criminality but party opinion and as far as im aware no party representative of any party is speaking out supporting abuseing young girls.well not yet anyway.
a ukip politician did however openly say we should force women to abort supposedly imperfect children .someone wants to tell him that would include most of our inbreed aristocracy there isnt a chin among them.


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Posted 18 December 2012 - 11:00 PM

View PostProfessor Buzzkill, on 18 December 2012 - 08:49 PM, said:

Hold on. When a child is born with down syndrome or some other birth defects they often require 24hour care. The carer is most likely to be the parents. Over here, our government pays for an outside carer to look after the child (or adult) for a certain amount of hours (20 i think) per week. It was recently ruled that the parents should be paid to care for the child as the human rights bill says you cannot discriminate on the basis of being a family (i.e. the carer gets paid, why shouldn't I?).

So therefore, knowingly bringing a disabled child into this world is equivilent to asking for thousands of dollars a year from the tax payer. I disagree with forcing people into a corner over the issue, but you cannot deny that most children with disablities are a drain on the tax payer to some extent.

That being said, even the most stupid politician should know not to shoot his mouth off over a highly emotional issue such as this.

Edit: I thought i better add that I in no way support forced abortions or eugenic style killing of the "less worthy"
are you american ? isnt that the place were a lot of people see rape as an acceptable form of conception because god doesnt like abortion?


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Posted 18 December 2012 - 11:02 PM

View Postsmurf0852, on 18 December 2012 - 11:00 PM, said:

are you american ? isnt that the place were a lot of people see rape as an acceptable form of conception because god doesnt like abortion?

I am a Kiwi. But i doubt alot of people in America see rape as a form of contraception.


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Posted 18 December 2012 - 11:11 PM

View PostProfessor Buzzkill, on 18 December 2012 - 11:02 PM, said:

I am a Kiwi. But i doubt alot of people in America see rape as a form of contraception.
ok mate i apologise and its conception .a republican governor in america said rape victims shouldnt be allowed abortions because it was a valid form of conception and god didnt like abortion !!!!!!!
as in if you are raped and get pregnant god wants you to have a baby .i kid you not look it up .


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Posted 19 December 2012 - 12:39 AM

View Posttyrant lizard, on 18 December 2012 - 05:50 PM, said:

This is not a UKIP policy. They suspended the guy straight away so I don't see how that constitutes Nazi like beliefs.

The report suggests that they initially backed him but then had to do a turnaround due to a "backlash".


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Posted 19 December 2012 - 12:45 AM

The daggers are out. UKIP are a threat, if they are clever enough they will keep their personal views to themselves and do what the people want......not a normal politicians stance, but by now they should know the score when they are narrowing the odds.
If they do not, then they are just as bad as the rest.


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Posted 19 December 2012 - 12:47 AM

I wonder how many people deep down agree with what he said but daren`t admit it?





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