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#46    Corp

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 11:11 PM

View PostLittle Fish, on 19 December 2012 - 10:29 PM, said:

I'm not being insenstive to this tragedy, but I'm curious, did you believe the iraqi incubator story where the young girl stood up in front of the world and cried that the iraqis were throwing babies from incubators and stealing the incubators. you know that story was a total fake, the girl was coached by a public relations company, and the stunt lead to a far greater tragedy than the one being discussed here, so why should i believe the tv without question? because you are emotionally upset?

Something happening in Iraq is one thing, something happening in an American town is very much another. One is much easier to hide than the other. Just because one story was a lie doesn't mean ever single that will forever be on tv will be a lie. And people should be emotionally upset. A BUNCH OF ******* CHILDREN WERE MURDERED! Yet we have people who have the gall to claim it never happened. And that someone would have such a lack of respect and morals is just sickening.

Edited by Corp, 19 December 2012 - 11:13 PM.

War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth a war, is much worse...A man who has nothing which he is willing to fight for, nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 11:13 PM

One Life is Not Greater then another.


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Posted 19 December 2012 - 11:44 PM

*snipped myself*

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 11:48 PM

View PostAsteroidX, on 19 December 2012 - 11:13 PM, said:

One Life is Not Greater then another.

What's easier, going to Iraq or going to Connecticut? It should be very easy to find plenty of people who knew the families who lost children. Or is the entire town fake too?

War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth a war, is much worse...A man who has nothing which he is willing to fight for, nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 11:54 PM

Actually I dont have scheduled trips to either place. And now after this wont ever plan to go to them. At this point in time there is blood on the ground in both places. Get over trying to make a comparison between of childrens lifes regardless of where they live.

Sure the school shooting is raw and now. But keep a decent persepective on humanity and try to enjoy life a little bit and laugh. Thats how we can honor and show our respect to those that have died. Mourning is a time. It is suppose to have a beginning and an end. It is that way for a reason. At some point you have to look ahead,.


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Posted 19 December 2012 - 11:54 PM

View PostCorp, on 19 December 2012 - 11:11 PM, said:

Something happening in Iraq is one thing, something happening in an American town is very much another. One is much easier to hide than the other. Just because one story was a lie doesn't mean ever single that will forever be on tv will be a lie. And people should be emotionally upset. A BUNCH OF ******* CHILDREN WERE MURDERED! Yet we have people who have the gall to claim it never happened. And that someone would have such a lack of respect and morals is just sickening.
what the iraqi incubator story demonstrates is that you should not trust the corporately owned media.
it was a simple thing for any journalist to investigate and demonstrate that the girl crying into her tissue was the daughter of the kuwaiti ambassador and that a pr company made up the story and coached her. its inconceivable that nobody in tv-land knew this, so demonstrates tv news is used primarily to push political agendas, it is one clear example of which there are many. now knowing this, the default position of rational thought would be to doubt and examine the media very closely so you are not a victim of manipulation. if you sit through hours of emotional turmoil in front of a tv set then you'll lose that rational thought process and likely lash out at people on a discussion board who don't seem to be in the same emotional state as yourself. I don't have a tv set so i don't submit myself to emotional propaganda, but it doesn't mean I am any less indignant about these events or the other wrongs in the world. just because the news is not covering the hundreds of children blown to pieces in drone strikes doesn't make that issue less severe for those families affected. where are your capital letters and soap box over that issue? you don't have to read or post in this thread, it's your choice.


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Posted 20 December 2012 - 01:14 AM

View PostAsteroidX, on 19 December 2012 - 11:54 PM, said:

Actually I dont have scheduled trips to either place. And now after this wont ever plan to go to them. At this point in time there is blood on the ground in both places. Get over trying to make a comparison between of childrens lifes regardless of where they live.

Sure the school shooting is raw and now. But keep a decent persepective on humanity and try to enjoy life a little bit and laugh. Thats how we can honor and show our respect to those that have died. Mourning is a time. It is suppose to have a beginning and an end. It is that way for a reason. At some point you have to look ahead,.

...that's the point I'm trying to make. That those who have died need to be respected and their families given time to mourn. Not get called liers and government pawns as they've been by some of our members.

View PostLittle Fish, on 19 December 2012 - 11:54 PM, said:

what the iraqi incubator story demonstrates is that you should not trust the corporately owned media.
it was a simple thing for any journalist to investigate and demonstrate that the girl crying into her tissue was the daughter of the kuwaiti ambassador and that a pr company made up the story and coached her. its inconceivable that nobody in tv-land knew this, so demonstrates tv news is used primarily to push political agendas, it is one clear example of which there are many. now knowing this, the default position of rational thought would be to doubt and examine the media very closely so you are not a victim of manipulation. if you sit through hours of emotional turmoil in front of a tv set then you'll lose that rational thought process and likely lash out at people on a discussion board who don't seem to be in the same emotional state as yourself. I don't have a tv set so i don't submit myself to emotional propaganda, but it doesn't mean I am any less indignant about these events or the other wrongs in the world. just because the news is not covering the hundreds of children blown to pieces in drone strikes doesn't make that issue less severe for those families affected. where are your capital letters and soap box over that issue? you don't have to read or post in this thread, it's your choice.

So do you think that all this is a lie? Do you think that the media is inventing the murder of twenty children for ****s and giggles? Would you like to go up to the parents who are burying their babies at Christmas and tell them the pain they're feeling is fake so that the government can pass some minor gun reform? That's the issue here. That people are so paranoid of any kind of authorities that they automatically believe them to be evil in every way and yet blindly follow pieces of **** like Alex Jones, who was gleefully spinning tales of coverups before the bodies were even cold. That they need to feel some sort of superiority that they make baseless claims in order to appear smarter than everyone else. That they're claiming that people who are dealing with the worst scenario a parent could face are fake. That their children meant nothing and that their pain isn't real. That's what disgusts me about the claims being made in this thread. It might not have been your intent, but that's the road it quickly went down.

It's all well and good that you're not listening to the propaganda on tv, but just a fyi YouTube is far worst.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 01:24 AM

@Corp. I agree with you. The details of what occurred inside the school have been released and I find them to be the most haunting story I have ever read.
I have no doubts the event occurred.

I am still onboard the conspiracy theories flying about the things that could be going on in this country/world. But as too the school itself. Yeah heres the link. If you dont cry reading it then I dont what to say.

http://en.wikipedia....School_shooting


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Posted 20 December 2012 - 01:48 AM

View PostCorp, on 20 December 2012 - 01:14 AM, said:

...that's the point I'm trying to make. That those who have died need to be respected and their families given time to mourn. Not get called liers and government pawns as they've been by some of our members.



So do you think that all this is a lie? Do you think that the media is inventing the murder of twenty children for ****s and giggles? Would you like to go up to the parents who are burying their babies at Christmas and tell them the pain they're feeling is fake so that the government can pass some minor gun reform? That's the issue here. That people are so paranoid of any kind of authorities that they automatically believe them to be evil in every way and yet blindly follow pieces of **** like Alex Jones, who was gleefully spinning tales of coverups before the bodies were even cold. That they need to feel some sort of superiority that they make baseless claims in order to appear smarter than everyone else. That they're claiming that people who are dealing with the worst scenario a parent could face are fake. That their children meant nothing and that their pain isn't real. That's what disgusts me about the claims being made in this thread. It might not have been your intent, but that's the road it quickly went down.

It's all well and good that you're not listening to the propaganda on tv, but just a fyi YouTube is far worst.
there is a distinct difference.
this is a great article on how and why formulaic tv media works.
"The anchor is not only the priest, but also the teacher. He/she shows the audience how to experience the event and what to feel and what to think and how to act."
http://theintelhub.c...levision-event/


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Posted 20 December 2012 - 01:54 AM

Connecticut State Police indicated their concern about misinformation being posted on social media sites, and threatened prosecution of anyone involved with such activities.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 01:59 AM

View PostSakari, on 20 December 2012 - 01:54 AM, said:

Connecticut State Police indicated their concern about misinformation being posted on social media sites, and threatened prosecution of anyone involved with such activities.
under what law? or are they making up the law as they go along?


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Posted 20 December 2012 - 02:02 AM

View PostSakari, on 20 December 2012 - 01:54 AM, said:

Connecticut State Police indicated their concern about misinformation being posted on social media sites, and threatened prosecution of anyone involved with such activities.

Sure, as long as that misinformation involves, among others, crackpot government conspiracy theories.


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Posted 20 December 2012 - 02:02 AM

misinformation is different then specualtion. We are free to discuss this in an open fashion. But saying things like it didnt happen at all I think is what he is talking about. And he has no authority outside Connecticut so this must be a local phenomenen.

Cospiracy Theories claiming to be so are free to say whatever they want because they are akin to a think tank. Many facts may be wrong but it is trying to get the truth which is the goal. So this would neither be considered misinformation.


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Posted 20 December 2012 - 02:08 AM

View PostSakari, on 20 December 2012 - 01:54 AM, said:

Connecticut State Police indicated their concern about misinformation being posted on social media sites, and threatened prosecution of anyone involved with such activities.
you are misinforming people ;)


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Posted 20 December 2012 - 02:11 AM

View PostAsteroidX, on 20 December 2012 - 02:02 AM, said:

misinformation is different then specualtion. We are free to discuss this in an open fashion. But saying things like it didnt happen at all I think is what he is talking about. And he has no authority outside Connecticut so this must be a local phenomenen.

Cospiracy Theories claiming to be so are free to say whatever they want because they are akin to a think tank. Many facts may be wrong but it is trying to get the truth which is the goal. So this would neither be considered misinformation.

Just so you know.

Conspiracy theorists are not really after the truth.
Rather, their goal is to promote their own agenda. Simple as that.





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