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#16    Simbi Laveau

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 01:41 PM

You may also want to compare ,number of people shot by a crazed mass shooter in the USA ,and the number of people wrongfully killed by a police officer .
You will find,you're more likely to be killed by a cop,than a crazed gunman .

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 06:16 PM

View PostSimbi Laveau, on 22 December 2012 - 01:41 PM, said:

You may also want to compare ,number of people shot by a crazed mass shooter in the USA ,and the number of people wrongfully killed by a police officer .
You will find,you're more likely to be killed by a cop,than a crazed gunman .

Yet we hear nothing about disarming the police, hmm

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 06:21 PM

Everyone compares Switzerland to the US when it comes to health care laws. Anyone fancy looking at their gun laws?

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 06:47 PM

View PostHasina, on 22 December 2012 - 06:21 PM, said:

Everyone compares Switzerland to the US when it comes to health care laws. Anyone fancy looking at their gun laws?

you will find that, while every army reserve person has his assault rifle and/or ordinance pistol and one clip at home that is to be returned after the service ends, the possession of private weapons is not as easy as you would think.

Among others it contains following passages:

Citizens from South European countries are banned from possessing any kind of weapon.

For the purchase of a weapon you need consent from the police (exception is only  .22 rifles)

The law for weapons has been extended to "dangerous implements", that include kitchen knifes and clubs, and they cannot be carried overt or concealed.

Munitions are only allowed to those who have a license to purchase a gun, and only for that type of gun

To buy a gun you need a reason, without a reason you cannot and you can only buy a gun of a type you have a reason to posses.

Shooting out of shooting stands or hunting areal during season is prohibited.

and on, and on, and on.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 06:51 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 22 December 2012 - 06:47 PM, said:

you will find that, while every army reserve person has his assault rifle and/or ordinance pistol and one clip at home that is to be returned after the service ends, the possession of private weapons is not as easy as you would think.

Among others it contains following passages:

Citizens from South European countries are banned from possessing any kind of weapon.

For the purchase of a weapon you need consent from the police (exception is only  .22 rifles)

The law for weapons has been extended to "dangerous implements", that include kitchen knifes and clubs, and they cannot be carried overt or concealed.

Munitions are only allowed to those who have a license to purchase a gun, and only for that type of gun

To buy a gun you need a reason, without a reason you cannot and you can only buy a gun of a type you have a reason to posses.

Shooting out of shooting stands or hunting areal during season is prohibited.

and on, and on, and on.
But these are intelligently implemented laws, not ones rushed through because we're panicking because 'ohnoes our gun culture is making our children violent'.

http://en.wikipedia....d#Carrying_guns

Edit: Heck! I wish we had a law that required everyone to learn how to operate a gun safely and know what to do with one. With great power comes great responsibility, Uncle Ben told Peter, while Peter has super strength and spider skills, our gun laws are our great power, the citizens can protect themselves when need be, but we also need to be responsible, we need to learn to use these powers, be trained with them.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 06:57 PM

View PostHasina, on 22 December 2012 - 06:51 PM, said:

But these are intelligently implemented laws, not ones rushed through because we're panicking because 'ohnoes our gun culture is making our children violent'.

http://en.wikipedia....d#Carrying_guns

If it was not for a brake block called NRA (which should really rename itself Lobby Organization for Weapon Manufacturers or LOWM) we could implement some useful laws too.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 07:04 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 22 December 2012 - 06:57 PM, said:

If it was not for a brake block called NRA (which should really rename itself Lobby Organization for Weapon Manufacturers or LOWM) we could implement some useful laws too.
Very true. I do dislike the NRA, if they're not willing to compromise then the other side won't see the need either. That's the problem when it comes to the perception of 'freedoms'. Some believe we should all be handed fireworks and a match and have the freedom to see how it works, while others will hand us the firework and the match, tells us everything about the firework and the match and what could happen and then let's us go. The NRA is the former, how I would like it is the latter. While some people, it would seem, would rather hide the firework and the match and pretend they didn't exist.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 08:23 PM

I really dont get the whole NRA thing. They have no power to compromise anything. They dont represent gun owners, nor do they have power to change the second amendment in any way. Lawfully neither does the US government. People who demanded the president of the NRA should have to watch his kids get shot, and calling them murderers who's hands are bloody from these kids at Sandy Hook are scum bags as far as Im concerned. Gun grabbers/haters problem is with the constitution alone. The highest law in the land. If you dont like it there are pleanty of other countries where you can go to live under tyranny.

Edited by preacherman76, 22 December 2012 - 08:26 PM.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 08:28 PM

Can we be sure those numbers are 100% accurate.  How important are they. The trend oI can see. if a number is of murders is steadily climbing in one place then there is likely a problem. But why wouldnt scream Bloody Murder if there was a  problem. Not enough to start a papamilitary police force. And just because in one place it happens do you then put that same organized armed force in every city state in America.


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Posted 22 December 2012 - 08:47 PM

View PostAsteroidX, on 22 December 2012 - 08:28 PM, said:

Can we be sure those numbers are 100% accurate.
If someone ever claimed their numbers were 100% correct, I'd slap them and tell them it's 99%.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 08:53 PM

View Postpreacherman76, on 22 December 2012 - 08:23 PM, said:

I really dont get the whole NRA thing. They have no power to compromise anything. They dont represent gun owners, nor do they have power to change the second amendment in any way. Lawfully neither does the US government. People who demanded the president of the NRA should have to watch his kids get shot, and calling them murderers who's hands are bloody from these kids at Sandy Hook are scum bags as far as Im concerned. Gun grabbers/haters problem is with the constitution alone. The highest law in the land. If you dont like it there are pleanty of other countries where you can go to live under tyranny.

The NRA has the cash of all gun interests, which buys lots of influence in Washington. That is enough to get whatever law you want decided or repealed.

And the constitution can be changed at any time by a qualified majority in both houses and states. In fact it has been done so many times... that is why those things are called amendments. In fact it has been done the last time in '71 giving those younger than 21 and older than 18 the right to vote.

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 03:32 AM

View Postquestionmark, on 22 December 2012 - 08:53 PM, said:

The NRA has the cash of all gun interests, which buys lots of influence in Washington. That is enough to get whatever law you want decided or repealed.

And the constitution can be changed at any time by a qualified majority in both houses and states. In fact it has been done so many times... that is why those things are called amendments. In fact it has been done the last time in '71 giving those younger than 21 and older than 18 the right to vote.

The NRA spent less money lobbying in the 2012 election than AARP or Pro-Israel Lobbyist (Approx. $700k On behalf of the NRA and over $1.2 Mill on behalf of AARP alone). The strangle hold on gun laws does not come from the NRA, but the citizens of the United States. Case in point, when the words "Gun Control" were spoken by the government last week, Gun Dealers across the US started selling out. Rifles were flying off the shelf at an amazing pace and that had NOTHING to do with the NRA.


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Posted 23 December 2012 - 05:05 AM

Most of the people in teaxs carry hand guns.and you dont hear stuff like this there crime is low there my cosuin lives there and carrys a gun. More states shouldbe like texas


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Posted 23 December 2012 - 10:24 AM

View Postcoolguy, on 23 December 2012 - 05:05 AM, said:

Most of the people in teaxs carry hand guns.and you dont hear stuff like this there crime is low there my cosuin lives there and carrys a gun. More states shouldbe like texas

Instead of listening to rumors you should look at the FBI statistics and you would see that Texas comes right after California in violent crime.

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 11:41 AM

View Postpreacherman76, on 22 December 2012 - 06:16 PM, said:

Yet we hear nothing about disarming the police, hmm

States with adequate gun control do not have armed police (unless swat teams are needed) so there is no need to control police guns and death by cop is vanishingly rare.

Its simple - it is the ubiquity of guns which causes death by COP.

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