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#16    orangepeaceful79

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 04:20 AM

View PostTheLastLazyGun, on 25 December 2012 - 04:17 PM, said:

We know more about the surface of the Moon than we do about the deepest depths of the ocean.

It has been estimated that over two-thirds of sea life has yet to be discovered.

And your point is?


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Posted 26 December 2012 - 05:03 PM

View PostR4z3rsPar4d0x, on 24 December 2012 - 07:20 PM, said:

I read somewhere I cant remember where that things can become enormous in the water because gravity doesnt work the same way for sea creatures, is this true?

Aye, due to pressure, it's difficult to maintain a large bodymass, especially with a hard structure. Sperm whales can dive to the great depths for small amounts of time because they have the energy to be able to stop their lungs collapsing due to the air compressing, but this causes a lot of stress. Most deep sea critters are pretty small, apart from those large isopods (which are big for isopods, but still not exactly mahoosive) and things like giant and collossal squid. But I think that might have something to do with them having open circulatory systems??? Also they're pretty squidgy- and squidgyness is handier over a rigid skeleton at great pressure.


View PostThegreatsilence, on 24 December 2012 - 10:58 AM, said:

The Aztecs refers to it as Cipactli, a primeval sea monster said to be part fish, part crocodile and part toad and whose body is said to be composed of "coils/joints".

Sounds quite similar to the Taniwha if I recall, which is part of Maori legend.

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 10:59 AM

View PostUrisk, on 26 December 2012 - 05:03 PM, said:

Sounds quite similar to the Taniwha if I recall, which is part of Maori legend.

No surprise New Zealand seems to be a hotspot regarding those creatures:

http://cfz-nz.blogsp...s-breeding.html

I think one of them may have been videotaped off Florida (the last creature) :

http://www.unexplain...howtopic=182759

They are found world wide and seems to be somewhat cold waters tolerant as are Leatherback turtles.

Edited by Thegreatsilence, 27 December 2012 - 11:00 AM.


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Posted 27 December 2012 - 10:15 PM

Who knows what's lurking down there really .


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Posted 27 December 2012 - 10:32 PM

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 03:34 AM

That is a beautiful little critter :) The sea has so many wonderful animals.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 03:43 AM

While many parts of the ocean have not been fully explored I don't think there's much undiscovered in terms of large creatures. 1) the worlds oceans in general are shot: polluted and overfished. 2) Larger animals tend to prefer the surface or coastal environments not hidden away in marine trenches. Probably a great deal of undiscovered smaller species or similar to what we are already know for sure but I would be suprised if they ever found anything truly extraordinary.

Edited by Dragonwind, 28 December 2012 - 03:43 AM.


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Posted 29 December 2012 - 12:06 AM

Thanks for that Info Urisk

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 12:05 PM

View Postcsspwns, on 25 December 2012 - 04:02 AM, said:

Gourock Carass: turned out to be an elaborate hoax

Natal Carcass: unexplained, i cant find any info on it except from cryptid sites which are being seriously biased. also the proportions varied. the sites have varying measurements about the creature. cant find any scientific explainations and pictures were nonexistence. no pictures on google images and no pictures in the cryptid sites. my opinion is tat its probably a deformed beaked whale with a long beak or a narwhal with a soft horn cuz there have been cases when whale hunters caught narwhals but discarded the horns because they were soft

The "Natal Carcass" is much better known under the nickname Dr. Shuker gave it: Trunko. If you search for this you will find that Dr. Shuker and myself have uncovered more about the history including some pictures. Therefore we know that Trunko was a "Globster" and most probably a whale carcass as all those others "Blobs".
The Gourock carcass was not a hoax. There was a carcass in 1942 at Gourock thought from some to be a "sea monster". I found the proof that this incident happend and also the indication that an expert was at place and identified it as basking shark.



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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:37 PM

View PostR4z3rsPar4d0x, on 29 December 2012 - 12:06 AM, said:

Thanks for that Info Urisk

Nae probs dude :) Don't know exactly how accurite it is.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 10:00 PM

I think the sea's way to big to be able to say that the things we see as "monsters" don't exist. The sea's a big place, and most modern day monsters come from legends that started way back in the day that were also based on experiences. The sea has many. I think it's completely plausible to believe that there's alot out there.


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Posted 31 December 2012 - 11:16 PM

Just curious, have you people seen this video?

http://m.youtube.com...p&v=ZlwvRURK2eg

It's a video showing some strange underwater creature. I have no idea what it is and I don't believe it's been faked. It's something like this that can be discovered in the ocean.

Anyways, what do you guys think about it?

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 11:25 PM

Very cool. Apparently, it's some kind of large jellyfish.

http://cosmiclog.nbc...-jellyfish?lite


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Posted 31 December 2012 - 11:46 PM

Ah, I did not know it was explained. Thanks for showing me.

What an interesting looking creature though.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 12:08 PM

View PostDragonwind, on 28 December 2012 - 03:43 AM, said:

While many parts of the ocean have not been fully explored I don't think there's much undiscovered in terms of large creatures. 1) the worlds oceans in general are shot: polluted and overfished. 2) Larger animals tend to prefer the surface or coastal environments not hidden away in marine trenches. Probably a great deal of undiscovered smaller species or similar to what we are already know for sure but I would be suprised if they ever found anything truly extraordinary.
I agree, but you cannot rule out the possibility that large creatures, unknown to science, dwell the abyss. Giant squids, for example, were considered to be a legend until a century(or maybe two, I'm not quite sure) ago. A big marine animal doesn't need to be a vertebrate, it can be an invertebrate as well.
The thing is, that  there are so many reports and witnesses of sea creatures, "monsters", that, if they really exist, do not fit into this category. Many of them are certainly misinterpretations of known animals, such as sharks, manta rays, whales, sea lions, etc. or deformed individuals of species already known to science.
But, how can someone explain this:

"a most terrible creature, resembling nothing they saw before. The monster lifted its head so high that it seemed to be higher than the crow's nest on the mainmast. The head was small and the body short and wrinkled. The unknown creature was using giant fins which propelled it through the water. Later the sailors saw its tail as well. The monster was longer than our whole ship."
Hans Egede, July 1734

Hans Egede was a Dano-Norwegian missionary that, during a voyage to Gothaab/Nuuk on the western coast of Greenland he observed the creature described above. What do you think?





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