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Poll: Do you/Would you take gender neutrality into account when buying toys? (30 member(s) have cast votes)

Do you/Would you take gender neutrality into account when buying toys?

  1. Yes (6 votes [20.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.00%

  2. No (23 votes [76.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 76.67%

  3. I (would) only give girls all sorts of toys, but no dolls for boys for example (1 votes [3.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.33%

  4. I (would) only give boys all sorts of toys, but no toyguns or science sets for girls for example (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1    Render

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 09:12 AM

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(AP)—A 13-year-old girl's campaign to get Hasbro to make an Easy-Bake Oven that isn't purple or pink so it would appeal to her little brother is a fresh sign of movement in an old debate. Parents who hope to expose their children to different kinds of play—science sets for girls and dolls for boys, for example—can find themselves stymied by a toy industry that can seem stuck in the past when it comes to gender roles.


Read more at: http://phys.org/news...l-toys.html#jCp

Girls with (toy) guns: Swedish retailer causes stir with gender-neutral catalogue

http://www.thestar.c...utral-catalogue



So who takes gender neutrality into account ? Whether it be to deliberately buy "feminine toys" for girls and "masculine toys" for boys or vice versa.

Edited by Render, 26 December 2012 - 10:03 AM.


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Posted 26 December 2012 - 09:15 AM

should I have a daughter someday, she's getting Transformers, but i some hypothetical son wants a doll he can/have it.

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 10:05 AM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 26 December 2012 - 09:15 AM, said:

should I have a daughter someday, she's getting Transformers, but i some hypothetical son wants a doll he can/have it.

I edited the poll on this note

Because i think many would choose to give girls feminine and masculine toys
but they wouldn't consider giving boys feminine toys (or what they conceive to be feminine toys)


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Posted 26 December 2012 - 11:47 AM

I voted No in the Poll, because I buy my grand-neices and nephews the toys they want... not what someone else thinks they should play with...

As a kid I usually played more with the big boxes my dad brought home than I did with my 'real' toys... A large cardboard box is probably the best toy for a kid with imagination than many that are out there... There is a lot of "Calvin" (from "Calvin and Hobbes") in me...


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Posted 26 December 2012 - 01:13 PM

As long as the toy doesn't make noise. GAWD I hate noisy toys...

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 01:54 PM

View PostRender, on 26 December 2012 - 09:12 AM, said:

Read more at: http://phys.org/news...l-toys.html#jCp

Girls with (toy) guns: Swedish retailer causes stir with gender-neutral catalogue

http://www.thestar.c...utral-catalogue



So who takes gender neutrality into account ? Whether it be to deliberately buy "feminine toys" for girls and "masculine toys" for boys or vice versa.

The black and silver Easy-Bake Oven is a good idea, saw it on HuffPost already. When it comes to toys these are some other good ideas, choose wooden over plastic, mechanical over electronic. and learning value versus purely entertaining.

When it comes to clothes choose fashionable, something appropriate that would look good on an adult if a bigger size, so no tacky colors, cheap logos, or dumb cartoonish prints. Think classic boots and peacoats for outerwear.

Now the hard part is receiving gifts, they will be the total opposite. It is also not very appropriate to force others to get certain gifts, just be grateful and allow your child to wear it once or twice, or play with the toy given as a gift.

Ms. Pope did a good thing with her petition but it should not stop there. This is a step forward but we need more. Colors themselves should be neutral so there should be no need to have male or female colors, pink should be acceptable on a male, as blue on a female, and grey on both. Ms. Pope's brother should be able to play with a pink Easy-Bake or wear a pink shirt, so this is a mixed-blessing in that while they succeeded in getting a new color for the Easy-Bake they still upheld the color code of gender conformity.

I approve of the catalog where boys and girls are playing with the same toys. Win!

Telling children that boys act this way and girls act this way should be de-emphasized because it can turn into gendered harrasment if a child is being forced or pressured by their peers or an adult.

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Gendered harassment is a term used to describe any unwanted behavior that acts to assert and police the boundaries of traditional gender norms: heterosexual masculinity and femininity. It is related to, but different from bullying. (Meyer, 2006)

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Forms of gendered harassment include: (hetero)sexual harassment, homophobic harassment, and harassment for gender non-conformity (or transphobic harassment). I link these three forms of harassment because they are linked to the norm-setting and policing of narrowly defined traditional heterosexual gender roles (Larkin, 1994; Renold, 2002; Smith & Smith, 1998; Stein, 1995)

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As I investigated this problem further, I learned that although BGLQT youth are commonly targeted for harassment, they are not the only ones suffering due to the homophobic and heteronormative climate of the school. Any student whose behavior is perceived to be different in some way can be isolated and harassed using anti-gay insults, and any student who wishes to establish his/her place in the social pecking order of the school must engage in heterosexualized discussions and behaviors which often include various forms of gendered harassment.

http://www.psycholog...ke-school-safer

And for those wishing to claim gendered harrassment does not exist, well look at the sources, I am going to trust academia first and consider common opinion as unsophisticated; definitely uninformed.

For those who do not understand that even the many people who do not harrass others, but still maintain and project on others rigid social gender roles, they allow the climate for the harassers to operate in.

Edited by I believe you, 26 December 2012 - 02:13 PM.


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Posted 26 December 2012 - 03:13 PM

Like Taun said, I buy my kids toys they'd want to play with. They're not pawns in some agenda. They're kids who want to play with stuff.  For Christmas, they just got a new video camera. It's hot pink, because for some reason, the hot pink one was $40 less than the red and black ones. They don't care. They want to make movies. My autistic son got a new cabbage patch doll "buddy" 'cause he likes to play with them.

I think it's a good idea for manufacturers to make different colored toys, but mostly because I don't like pink and "girl's toys" are invariably bright pink. lol

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 05:32 PM

If I had kids I would get them what they wanted to play with, Hasina you can always take the batteries out of noisy toys.

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 05:38 PM

Pfft, compromise with my children? What am I? A politician?

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 07:26 PM

when my kids were little, I never gave hoot one way or another. I just paid attention to what they liked and asked for and usually got what we could afford.

I remember once we went to deseret industries (mormon thrift store), and  my kids both ran for the toy section, they both wanted this huge doll house, made of wood.. so big they both could almost fit into it. SOOOOOOO we got it, along with furniture for it and they chose dolls and such for it.

Course the dolls they chose were not the ones that was for the doll house, Jessa wanted my pony ponies, and my son wanted those ninja turtle action figures and both went for transformer figures. SO it was a weird doll family.. go figure.

My daughter also found some of those what were they? care bears? dark heart figures with it.

No one ever cared what was considered girl or boy toys.

Now to be blunt, the most favorite toys of all? We had this trash can with lid on it, it wasnt huge, bout two feet tall, and it was filled with odd and ends of connect blocks, lego's.. and anything else that could connect together and build things. All the neighborhood kids would gather at our place and my kids would drag out that full trash bin of blocks/legos and such and they all would play for hours, they drug out the house and dolls too, boys and girls playing with both.

Kept my house clean.. the walkway in front of  our apartment was always cluttered with neighbor kids and such, but no one seemed to mind.

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 07:52 PM

A friend of mine has an only child, a little girl, who will be two next month and she is already gravitating towards boy toys. I was never into girly stuff like dolls and took over my older brothers science or building kits. I always wanted to take things apart to see how it worked and try to put it back together again. I loved the Easy Bake Ovens but moved passed them to the real oven by the age of about eight. Like Tuan said, I had a blast with big boxes because you could make so many things out of them.

Give them what they want and not what you want them to have. That's just a waste of money.


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Posted 26 December 2012 - 08:45 PM

after reading michelles post, i thought of something.. ever think that kids are sort of like cats/kittens?

I remember when we got some appliances (kitchen got remodeled) and us kids grabbed all the empty boxes.. we put blankies and pillows in them and made our own 'seats' to snuggle into when we watched sat morn cartoons.. and when they got to 'weak' to use as something to sit inside and lean on sides to watch tv, we would tear the side corners and flatten it out, put all our boxes together and with blankets and chairs we made forts.. with 'real walls' (well come on, to a kid, the cardboard was a real wall'..

oooh and i remember the wallpaper stuff came in these 'rolls' with the cardboard round in middle, boy were they long, and we would use those as swords..

hrmm.. i guess in reality, the best toys a kid can get, has nothing to do with gender.. more to do with imagination and letting our own minds build our own 'toys' with just thoughts of fun fun fun..

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 09:19 PM

My very favorite 'cardboard box toy' came in the very early 60's when the Mercury Project was starting up...  "The Weekly Reader" - a grade school 'newspaper' had a 'centerfold' section of a photo of the Mercury Capsules instrument panel...

I took that picture and put it in a large cardboard box on one inside wall, then laid the box on its side so that the picture was on the 'ceiling'... then I put pillows and such in there so I could lay down and look up at the panel - just like the Astronaughts did... That was my space ship and I travelled all over the universe with that darn box... I actually kept it for about two years and got very jealous if one of my sisters got inside it to play...

I loved that box... Wish I still had it


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Posted 26 December 2012 - 09:26 PM

View Postwillowdreams, on 26 December 2012 - 08:45 PM, said:

after reading michelles post, i thought of something.. ever think that kids are sort of like cats/kittens?

I remember when we got some appliances (kitchen got remodeled) and us kids grabbed all the empty boxes.. we put blankies and pillows in them and made our own 'seats' to snuggle into when we watched sat morn cartoons.. and when they got to 'weak' to use as something to sit inside and lean on sides to watch tv, we would tear the side corners and flatten it out, put all our boxes together and with blankets and chairs we made forts.. with 'real walls' (well come on, to a kid, the cardboard was a real wall'..

oooh and i remember the wallpaper stuff came in these 'rolls' with the cardboard round in middle, boy were they long, and we would use those as swords..

hrmm.. i guess in reality, the best toys a kid can get, has nothing to do with gender.. more to do with imagination and letting our own minds build our own 'toys' with just thoughts of fun fun fun..

Oh yeah!!! When we couldn't camp outdoors we could make forts with tunnels in between chairs and the main room was under the dining room table. I loved that!


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Posted 27 December 2012 - 01:36 AM

Give the kid the kind of toys they like.  Boys play with dolls too they are just called action figures.

When I was a kid I had more fun with my imagination and pets than I did with my toys.





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