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#1    AsteroidX

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 02:59 PM

More evidence that excessive vaccines are a bad thing.

http://news.yahoo.co...-215917681.html


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Posted 26 December 2012 - 03:09 PM

I think you might have linked the wrong article "One in 12 in military has clogged heart arteries"

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 03:11 PM

Perhaps. Perhaps not. I do believe this has some evidenciary value on the topic. That is the link I posted.


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Posted 26 December 2012 - 03:41 PM

There are a lot of things that can contribute to clogged arteries, where's the connection to excessive vaccinations ?

Also, how is this an urban legend ? ( unless the point is that there is no connection )


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Posted 26 December 2012 - 03:46 PM

Yes. Many things cause clogged arteries. But we dont know the long term effect of multiple terms of service overseas and with the vaccinations required it is still evidenciary.

(This may not fit under Urban Legends or you get let it fall.)
I think theres an ongoing thread about this topic but I was unable to find it.


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Posted 26 December 2012 - 03:51 PM

Moved to Science & Technology


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Posted 26 December 2012 - 03:53 PM

View PostAsteroidX, on 26 December 2012 - 02:59 PM, said:

More evidence that excessive vaccines are a bad thing.

http://news.yahoo.co...-215917681.html

What about the other eleven-twelths who didn't have clogged arteries? This isn't evidence. You would need to provide scientific proof that there is a correlation between vaccines and heart disease. Quite frankly, what would even make somebody think vaccines give you heart disease? Is it the egg inside them or what?

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 03:55 PM

I disagree. 1/12th of the most healthy of our population in peak physical conditioning should not have clogged arteries.


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Posted 26 December 2012 - 03:58 PM

View PostAsteroidX, on 26 December 2012 - 03:55 PM, said:

I disagree. 1/12th of the most healthy of our population in peak physical conditioning should not have clogged arteries.

And you blame this on vaccines why and with what evidence?

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 04:01 PM

There was coroner reports and then this report

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None of them had been diagnosed with heart disease before deployment, researchers said.

this was on the 3800+ Military personel that have been killed overseas over the past decade. Unless theres soemthing in the air over there it looks like "evidence" to me


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Posted 26 December 2012 - 04:10 PM

View PostAsteroidX, on 26 December 2012 - 04:01 PM, said:

There was coroner reports and then this report

this was on the 3800+ Military personel that have been killed overseas over the past decade. Unless theres soemthing in the air over there it looks like "evidence" to me

There are 315,000,000 people in America. Approximately 82,000,000 people in America have heart disease. That is over ONE-FOURTH of the entire country. Military men and women, who should be healthier, are--as they have heart disease three times less often than in normal America.

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 04:17 PM

I do not disagree 1/4th of the population has heart disease for many different reasons.

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What about the other eleven-twelths who didn't have clogged arteries?

Are you saying thats an acceptable amount of risk without looking at the long term effects of some of these multiple vaccine injections. For rare/or regional diseases.

I would like to see some evidence they are safe.


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Posted 26 December 2012 - 04:20 PM

View PostAsteroidX, on 26 December 2012 - 04:17 PM, said:

Are you saying thats an acceptable amount of risk without looking at the long term effects of some of these multiple vaccine injections. For rare/or regional diseases.

No, I'm saying that there is no correlation between heart disease and vaccines, otherwise nearly every military man and woman would get heart disease it it was directly tied to vaccinations.

View PostAsteroidX, on 26 December 2012 - 04:17 PM, said:

I would like to see some evidence they are safe.

Okay. Which vaccine are we talking about? I'll get you some.

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 04:22 PM

My question is why are you leaping to vaccines as the culprit? Lifestyle by far plays the greatest role in heart disease

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 04:32 PM

Im not trying to Leap. It just smacks of needing to be looked at and not taken for granted that these type of mass vaccinations. Of the type I described are healthy/or not healthy.

I mean to it seems to be the latest craze and hasnt been thoroughly researched.

I would say again what evidence do we have that is healthy except in preventing the diseases it was intended to.





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