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#16    OverSword

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 09:58 PM

View PostAtentutankh-pasheri, on 28 December 2012 - 09:08 PM, said:

USA executes mental defectives I think. Also Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo, so please, no lectures on barbarity. And by the way, there is no death penality in Russia, or chain gangs.
We do not execute mental defectives, Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib 1) are not in my country, and 2)are under military jurisdiction not civilian.  Chain gangs none.
This entire fiasco concerning these stupid girls is overreaction.  If you throw a firecracker at me am I justified shooting a nuclear missile at you?


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Posted 28 December 2012 - 11:54 PM

Do not know whether to laugh or cry at some of these responses, so many contradictions. So, by reply, here is a clip from my favourite film. Some scoundrels taking advantage of our hero in the land of fools. It's relevant to thread, with some lateral thinking....



Edited by Atentutankh-pasheri, 28 December 2012 - 11:57 PM.


#18    Jessica Christ

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 09:59 AM

View PostOverSword, on 28 December 2012 - 09:54 PM, said:

Wrong again:
blas·phe·my

/ˈblasfəmē/


Noun
The act or offense of speaking sacrilegiously about God or sacred things; profane talk.


So is putin sacred now?

No, but you can go in a church, cuss at Putin even if he is not there, and that would be blasphemous since blasphemy, the world-over, is not going to use the strict defintion you provided. "Insulting people's religious sentiments" such as cussing in a church would be considered blasphemy in Russia.

Any more questions?


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Posted 29 December 2012 - 04:33 PM

View PostAtentutankh-pasheri, on 28 December 2012 - 11:54 PM, said:

Do not know whether to laugh or cry at some of these responses, so many contradictions. So, by reply, here is a clip from my favourite film. Some scoundrels taking advantage of our hero in the land of fools. It's relevant to thread, with some lateral thinking....

*bizarre clip removed*

Said guy who posts about peaceful, tension lowering, evacuation purpose of Baltic fleet :lol:
What was wrong with Black Sea fleet? Not large enough to take all evacuees?



View PostI believe you, on 29 December 2012 - 09:59 AM, said:

No, but you can go in a church, cuss at Putin even if he is not there, and that would be blasphemous since blasphemy, the world-over, is not going to use the strict defintion you provided. "Insulting people's religious sentiments" such as cussing in a church would be considered blasphemy in Russia.

Any more questions?

Loads of questions.
Let’s start with:  
Isn't dealing with blasphemy within civil law something only theocracies do?
Why is Russian definition of blasphemy directly dependant on political implications of particular blasphemy? (see mother Fotina example)
Should saying out loud you don’t like someone’s politics really be punishable with gulag?
Isn’t sending people to gulag for having different opinion totally the same evil Soviet crap?
What has really changed in Russia then? Rhetorics? Symbolics? Is that breakthrough or catching naive flies into web of very superficial deception?
Why should I (or any other sane human being) believe Russian old totalitarianism in new clothes and expansionism it brings, is in any way good?

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 04:52 PM

View PostHelen of Annoy, on 29 December 2012 - 04:33 PM, said:

Said guy who posts about peaceful, tension lowering, evacuation purpose of Baltic fleet :lol:
What was wrong with Black Sea fleet? Not large enough to take all evacuees?





Loads of questions.
Let’s start with:  
Isn't dealing with blasphemy within civil law something only theocracies do?
Why is Russian definition of blasphemy directly dependant on political implications of particular blasphemy? (see mother Fotina example)
Should saying out loud you don’t like someone’s politics really be punishable with gulag?
Isn’t sending people to gulag for having different opinion totally the same evil Soviet crap?
What has really changed in Russia then? Rhetorics? Symbolics? Is that breakthrough or catching naive flies into web of very superficial deception?
Why should I (or any other sane human being) believe Russian old totalitarianism in new clothes and expansionism it brings, is in any way good?

I don't support the law but was just explaining it as it exists.


#21    Helen of Annoy

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 05:23 PM

View PostI believe you, on 29 December 2012 - 04:52 PM, said:

I don't support the law but was just explaining it as it exists.
Ach, so... Great. I was wondering what has possessed you ^_^



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Posted 29 December 2012 - 05:57 PM

So, here is Aten
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And the comment *bizarre clip removed*  is blasphemy


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Posted 29 December 2012 - 06:03 PM

You’re precious.

Care to answer any of my questions?
Just one if answering them all is too hard or you're afraid for the size of your own nose.

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 06:32 PM

No, I do not answer questions that are so insulting worded. You should read what I have written here so you do not lag so far behind me. Notice Buratino has no strings, and neither do I. I am not puppet to dance to your tune or anybody else here


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Posted 29 December 2012 - 07:32 PM

View PostAtentutankh-pasheri, on 29 December 2012 - 06:32 PM, said:

No, I do not answer questions that are so insulting worded. You should read what I have written here so you do not lag so far behind me. Notice Buratino has no strings, and neither do I. I am not puppet to dance to your tune or anybody else here

I'm not asking you to dance, I'm asking you to explain few things to me. Don't be afraid, truth will prevail, even if you doubt it.


So you can’t answer my questions because they are insulting?
All righty.

Let me rephrase them:

Is it possible to have a truly democratic society without separation of the church and the state? If you are in favour of non-democratic society, please elaborate why.

Do you notice different treatment of particular religious transgressions in your society today and if so, how do you explain such discrepancy?

Should political protest really be punishable with gulag?

Isn’t sending people to gulag for having different opinion totally the same practice as it was seen during Soviet era?

Would you be so kind to explain to the outsider what has changed in Russia, compared to Soviet era? Would you define those changes as fundamental or superficial?

Is there are a reason why you think debaters that are not citizens of Russian Federation are bound by the same laws that forbid criticism, if such laws are existing? If not, why are those pussies in gulag?

In sincere hope this was gentle enough for you, I’m attaching a piece of sand paper to this post, so Pinocchio can take care of his nose.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 01:28 AM

Wow, 2 years for dissent in Siberia @ -60 degrees.  Nikita Krushev would have whacked his shoe on Putin's desk in outrage if he was still alive.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 04:52 AM

'***** Riot'.

This is a test. If you can't say '***** Riot'. Then this forum needs to be modified.


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Posted 30 December 2012 - 05:12 AM

Kitty Cat. Feline. Puddy Tat. Okay that worked.

"What's New Pussycat"


What's new pussycat? Woah, Woah
What's new pussycat? Woah, Woah
Pussycat, Pussycat
I've got flowers
And lots of hours
To spend with you.
So go and powder your cute little pussycat nose!
Pussycat, Pussycat
I love you
Yes, I do!
You and your pussycat nose!
What's new pussycat? Woah, Woah
What's new pussycat? Woah, Woah
Pussycat, Pussycat
You're so thrilling
And I'm so willing
To care for you.
So go and make up your cute little pussycat face!
Pussycat, Pussycat
I love you
Yes, I do!
You and your pussycat face!
What's new pussycat? Woah, Woah
What's new pussycat? Woah, Woah
Pussycat, Pussycat
You're delicious
And if my wishes
Can all come true
I'll soon be kissing your sweet little pussycat lips!
Pussycat, Pussycat
I love you
Yes, I do!
You and your pussycat lips!
You and your pussycat eyes!
You and your pussycat nose!


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Posted 30 December 2012 - 05:18 AM

PussyRiot. Okay, don't spell it right.


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Posted 30 December 2012 - 10:41 AM

Here's the problem, the band PussyRiot is (obviously) not an insult. However, other forms of this word are used to denote a wimpy person or female genitalia. The forum obscenity filter is not sophisticated enough to comprehend subtle differences in word usage. I hope this clears things up...just spell the band name without spacing.

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