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[Stardrive]

Ok, I'm back now. Did I miss anything?? lol  Yeah Ken, the time is getting near and I can't wait to get back out there. I've purchased a new laptop and I'm wanting to get a cell phone sized sound/camera/video recorder. Something with good resolution yet small and discreet.

[keninsc]

Stardrive, on 02 March 2013 - 05:19 PM, said:

Ok, I'm back now. Did I miss anything?? lol  Yeah Ken, the time is getting near and I can't wait to get back out there. I've purchased a new laptop and I'm wanting to get a cell phone sized sound/camera/video recorder. Something with good resolution yet small and discreet.

Hey! You're back. Funny you should mention cameras, I was just looking at some Police type POV cameras. Something discreet, maybe mount it on my hat and just record while I'm out walking/hiking or Bigfoot hunting. I'm amazed at the quality of the videos......at least the quality of the videos they show. Good to see you back on line Buddy!

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I think Bigfoot is quite plausible, but if Rick Dyer (or anyone else) had proof of its existence, it would be all across every news outlet.

[Night Walker]

TheSearcher, on 01 March 2013 - 07:50 AM, said:

Worst part is he basically admits the entire thing to be BS, just to make a few bucks.

Then by doing so perhaps Rick Dyer is the most honest Bigfoot researcher the world has ever seen. Seriously...

[QuiteContrary]

Night Walker, on 03 March 2013 - 09:43 AM, said:

Then by doing so perhaps Rick Dyer is the most honest Bigfoot researcher the world has ever seen. Seriously...

Depends on how you would define honest. Does this one moment, more like a slip, of honesty make him an honest person?

[Night Walker]

Not an honest person per se but by acknowledging that he is a hoaxer he is more honest that all/most other Bigfoot researchers/promoters who gain from deception/shenanigans/storytelling. At least Dyer is upfront about it. We know what he is going to do and yet he does it anyway. In this way is Dyer more or less honest than the folk on Finding Bigfoot or even Meldrum's reality-TV Bigfoot-blimp scheme?

[Stardrive]

keninsc, on 02 March 2013 - 05:38 PM, said:

Hey! You're back. Funny you should mention cameras, I was just looking at some Police type POV cameras. Something discreet, maybe mount it on my hat and just record while I'm out walking/hiking or Bigfoot hunting. I'm amazed at the quality of the videos......at least the quality of the videos they show. Good to see you back on line Buddy!

Thanks ol pal, it's good to be back. I was thinking I don't want some device in my face and be pointing it at something. A good, incoginto, recording device that does it all, should be all I need.  If I'm right, there's only a small window of opportunity to get the pics I want. 2 weeks maybe.

Sad thing is, it's people like Rick Dyer who keep people like me from coming forward with things they've found. If what I have found is genuine, then I can't risk it being reproduced/hoaxed. But what I can do is, document it to the best of my ability this time around (if I get lucky), and report it to my contact. Getting some forensic evidence would be a nice bonus. Had some last year, but I didn't have a contact and no one would listen to me. This year will hopefully be different than last since I'm better prepared this time around.

Edited by Stardrive, 04 March 2013 - 10:27 PM.

[keninsc]

Stardrive, on 04 March 2013 - 10:27 PM, said:

Thanks ol pal, it's good to be back. I was thinking I don't want some device in my face and be pointing it at something. A good, incoginto, recording device that does it all, should be all I need.  If I'm right, there's only a small window of opportunity to get the pics I want. 2 weeks maybe.

Sad thing is, it's people like Rick Dyer who keep people like me from coming forward with things they've found. If what I have found is genuine, then I can't risk it being reproduced/hoaxed. But what I can do is, document it to the best of my ability this time around (if I get lucky), and report it to my contact. Getting some forensic evidence would be a nice bonus. Had some last year, but I didn't have a contact and no one would listen to me. This year will hopefully be different than last since I'm better prepared this time around.

It's all a part of the learning process, in areas like this there are rules, pit falls and things to watch out for, just like any other aspect of life. Learning to get through it is a process just like anything else. Hang in there Buddy.

[QuiteContrary]

Night Walker, on 04 March 2013 - 09:35 PM, said:

Not an honest person per se but by acknowledging that he is a hoaxer he is more honest that all/most other Bigfoot researchers/promoters who gain from deception/shenanigans/storytelling. At least Dyer is upfront about it. We know what he is going to do and yet he does it anyway. In this way is Dyer more or less honest than the folk on Finding Bigfoot or even Meldrum's reality-TV Bigfoot-blimp scheme?

He pulls hoaxes and goes off on how great a bigfoot hunter he is, but then when push comes to proof, he switches to what a great hoaxer he is.
Honest? No. Egotistical opportunist? Definitely!

Does anyone on the Finding Bigfoot team believe in bigfoot? Is Cliff searching for a creature he sincerely believes is out there? Is Ranae knowingly taking part in a show she knows is nothing more than a hoax on their TV audience?

Edited by QuiteContrary, 04 March 2013 - 11:31 PM.

[Sakari]

Night Walker, on 04 March 2013 - 09:35 PM, said:

Not an honest person per se but by acknowledging that he is a hoaxer he is more honest that all/most other Bigfoot researchers/promoters who gain from deception/shenanigans/storytelling. At least Dyer is upfront about it. We know what he is going to do and yet he does it anyway. In this way is Dyer more or less honest than the folk on Finding Bigfoot or even Meldrum's reality-TV Bigfoot-blimp scheme?

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But hey, he made $11,000. dollars.......

Ok, back to real stuff.

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[QuiteContrary]

A victim of bigfoot politics? ................Who's involved. Who gets credit. Who gets to ride in the chase trailer. What if it's Meldrum who proves bigfoot.
Rather than a lack of potential donors with money.
I would think those involved had some kind of an idea of potential backers who would contribute enough to make it happen.
Was this to be a funding-making internet sensation in the bigfoot world that failed?

Edited by QuiteContrary, 05 March 2013 - 02:44 AM.

[Stardrive]

Sakari, on 05 March 2013 - 01:41 AM, said:

But hey, he made $11,000. dollars.......

No so fast bigdaddy.  The donors did end up getting something..... I guess.....  


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[Night Walker]

Shouldn't Meldrum simply have refunded the money?

QuiteContrary, on 04 March 2013 - 11:30 PM, said:

He pulls hoaxes and goes off on how great a bigfoot hunter he is, but then when push comes to proof, he switches to what a great hoaxer he is.

Perhaps "great hoaxer" and "great bigfoot hunter" are not mutually exclusive categories. This is the World of Bigfoot, after all...

QuiteContrary, on 04 March 2013 - 11:30 PM, said:

Does anyone on the Finding Bigfoot team believe in bigfoot? Is Cliff searching for a creature he sincerely believes is out there? Is Ranae knowingly taking part in a show she knows is nothing more than a hoax on their TV audience?

The point is with these people you just don't know (and could you really believe what they said when it comes to Bigfoot anyway?). Either way Finding Bigfoot strings folk along while laughing all the way to the bank. With Dyer, at least you should know what to expect as he strings folk along while laughing all the way to the bank...

[QuiteContrary]

Night Walker, on 05 March 2013 - 06:25 AM, said:

Shouldn't Meldrum simply have refunded the money?




Perhaps "great hoaxer" and "great bigfoot hunter" are not mutually exclusive categories. This is the World of Bigfoot, after all...




The point is with these people you just don't know (and could you really believe what they said when it comes to Bigfoot anyway?). Either way Finding Bigfoot strings folk along while laughing all the way to the bank. With Dyer, at least you should know what to expect as he strings folk along while laughing all the way to the bank...

bolding, mine

Who knows what to expect? Some of us, yes.
But Dyer's got fans, believers, newbies, media....
Blogs, forums, sites are out there, full of those waiting with bated breath to see what he's got and argue about in the interim.

There are always plenty to take the bait. I won't cut him any slack.

Unfortunately, being an admitted lying hoaxer/con is not incompatible with having a following. As is evident in any number of areas inside and outside of the paranormal/cryptid world.

Edited by QuiteContrary, 05 March 2013 - 07:24 AM.

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Sakari, on 05 March 2013 - 01:41 AM, said:

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But hey, he made $11,000. dollars......

Probably he can make a lot more selling the concept to the government.