Benjamin Zephaniah, the poet and author, has called for the honours system to be divorced from the monarchy and the concept of "Empire" so it can become truly multicultural.
Mr Zephaniah, who was guest editor of Today, BBC radio's flagship news programme, rejected an honour 10 years ago.
He said a new honours system should be established to be "truly multicultural".
http://www.telegraph...e-monarchy.html
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New Year's honours from monarchy should end
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 02:16 PM
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 03:07 PM
The honours list is a farce. Only a tiny minority of those 'honoured' actually deserve it ....... Stella McCartney? you're 'avin' a larf arncha? 'Services to fashion'? ye gods! Her 'designs' couldn't be duller and less flattering if they tried!
I quite like Zephaniah's poetry but I don't think he deserved to be honoured for it ...... all credit to him for turning it down(10yrs ago).
Some of the comments at the end of the article are interesting ....... I agree with the person who asks 'why should something British become multicultural?'.
Bottom line for me: scrap the honours list, it's a joke.
I quite like Zephaniah's poetry but I don't think he deserved to be honoured for it ...... all credit to him for turning it down(10yrs ago).
Some of the comments at the end of the article are interesting ....... I agree with the person who asks 'why should something British become multicultural?'.
Bottom line for me: scrap the honours list, it's a joke.
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 03:51 PM
What is loyalty, entertainment, bravery, success, or service?
I have pondered this since I heard the trapped Chilean miners (in 2010) described as 'heroes'.
The honours I am fully happy with usually involve dedication to some kind of altruism or service in the community.
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I have pondered this since I heard the trapped Chilean miners (in 2010) described as 'heroes'.
The honours I am fully happy with usually involve dedication to some kind of altruism or service in the community.
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Edited by acute alan, 31 December 2012 - 04:00 PM.
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 05:36 PM
If that racist prat Zephaniah is a poet, then I'm a world-reknowned neuro-surgeon! As soon as I read 'multicultural' I knew what was coming. They don't miss a trick, do they?
Oh yes, and while we're on the subject...WHERE'S MY B****Y KNIGHTHOOD???
Oh yes, and while we're on the subject...WHERE'S MY B****Y KNIGHTHOOD???
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 06:05 PM
ealdwita, on 31 December 2012 - 05:36 PM, said:
If that racist prat Zephaniah is a poet, then I'm a world-reknowned neuro-surgeon! As soon as I read 'multicultural' I knew what was coming. They don't miss a trick, do they?
Oh yes, and while we're on the subject...WHERE'S MY B****Y KNIGHTHOOD???
Oh yes, and while we're on the subject...WHERE'S MY B****Y KNIGHTHOOD???
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 07:07 PM
ealdwita, on 31 December 2012 - 05:36 PM, said:
Oh yes, and while we're on the subject...WHERE'S MY B****Y KNIGHTHOOD???
Seriously? You've been ignored again?
Perhaps you could have the one Mr. Zephaniah turned down? *ducks*
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 08:44 PM
Benjamin Zephaniah is a racist??
Btw in my final college lessons our tutor did a recital of his poem "Turkey".
And she did it in a faux Jamacian accent which had the class in stitches.
The last thing on anybody's mind was the touchy subject of racism.
But I agree about too many non-entities getting accolades.
Tbh they should make our medal-winning olympiads dames and sirs.
Bradley Wiggins knighthood should set off an avalanche.
Btw in my final college lessons our tutor did a recital of his poem "Turkey".
And she did it in a faux Jamacian accent which had the class in stitches.
The last thing on anybody's mind was the touchy subject of racism.
But I agree about too many non-entities getting accolades.
Tbh they should make our medal-winning olympiads dames and sirs.
Bradley Wiggins knighthood should set off an avalanche.
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Posted 01 January 2013 - 05:51 AM
And yet Terrance bloody d**** (D I C K S, it's his bloody name, stupid autocensor) - who is along with Roald Dahl and J.K. Rowling responsible for entire generations of children discovering a joy of reading (the man's produced hundreds of childrens books) - is still sadly missing from the Honours Rolls.
Edited by Wearer of Hats, 01 January 2013 - 05:52 AM.
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Posted 01 January 2013 - 10:31 AM
It's a Monarchial Honours List - Does he want to do away with the Monarchy?
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Posted 01 January 2013 - 10:32 AM
Wearer of Hats, on 01 January 2013 - 05:51 AM, said:
And yet Terrance bloody d**** (D I C K S, it's his bloody name, stupid autocensor) - who is along with Roald Dahl and J.K. Rowling responsible for entire generations of children discovering a joy of reading (the man's produced hundreds of childrens books) - is still sadly missing from the Honours Rolls.
"I warn you, whoever you are, oh you who wish to probe the arcanes of nature, if you do not find within yourself that which you seek, neither shall you find it outside.
If you ignore the excellencies of your own house, how do you intend to find other excellencies?
In you is hidden the treasure of treasures, Oh man, know thyself and you shall know the Universe and the Gods."
Inscription - Temple of Delphi
If you ignore the excellencies of your own house, how do you intend to find other excellencies?
In you is hidden the treasure of treasures, Oh man, know thyself and you shall know the Universe and the Gods."
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Posted 01 January 2013 - 07:21 PM
ouija ouija, on 31 December 2012 - 07:07 PM, said:
Seriously? You've been ignored again?
Perhaps you could have the one Mr. Zephaniah turned down? *ducks*
Perhaps you could have the one Mr. Zephaniah turned down? *ducks*
A miserable OBE? Hardly worth the train fare to Buck House for a measly OBE!
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Posted 01 January 2013 - 09:29 PM
I'm sure Paulo Di Canio will step in if there's a vacancy in the honours list!
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 06:40 PM
Medium Brown, on 31 December 2012 - 08:44 PM, said:
Benjamin Zephaniah is a racist??
Yeah. You should read his poem "Dear White Fella."
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 07:34 PM
TheLastLazyGun, on 02 January 2013 - 06:40 PM, said:
Yeah. You should read his poem "Dear White Fella."
But I can't imagine the ganga smoking,dreadlocked Rastafarian's are part of this fraternity.
Tbh he was slagging off our Christmas staple in his poem.
You could well imagine him comparing a turkey breast to white skin.
I swear nobody picked up on the racist vibes so I'm guilty by association.
Your suggesting the evidence is clear-cut in this other poem so I'm going to check it out.
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