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Crop Circles just one sign of Revelation


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#1966    laver

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Posted 14 February 2014 - 11:06 PM

View Poststereologist, on 14 February 2014 - 07:21 PM, said:

Your claim here is that the number of fools is meaningful. It isn't. Just because you think that there are many people that have been fooled about crop circles simply shows that you are aware of th gullible. Just because you do not know anyone that strongly believes in the magical morotcycle story has no bearing on whether or not some motorcycles are created without human involvement.

It probably isn't millions of people worldwide that have fallen for the obvious hoax of crop circles. You are just making up a number because you think that huge numbers of nutcases is something other than a huge number of nutcases.

Then you ask a question without answering it. You ask if some crop circles are not man made. Well, they all are so it of no interest to ask why do we get them. If you ask that question understanding that they are all man made then the answer is simple. It makes fun of a huge number of nutcases. It makes it easier to find the nutcases. They jump up and yell out, "Count me! I'm a nutcase!" Why are so many made in one area? Simple. It was discovered long ago that nutcases worlwide jump up and yell count me without having to travel close to their location.

So far there is no evidence for 'ancient' landscape geometry. There is no evidence that anyone drew the circles before Furlong. Where is evidence in the book of Revelations? You've mentioned churches there but you got there by drawing lines from England to there and not the reverse. You are cheating once again by making claims that are unsubstantiated.

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You should have realised by now that the Furlong proposals in his book 'The Keys to the Temple' go as far as identifying Temple Farm.

The research that then demonstrates how bearings from Temple Farm and the Great Pyramid identify the 7 'churches' of the Book of
Revelation, 3 key proof locations and many other ancient sites in the Holy Land, are nothing to do with Furlong.

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Edited by bLu3 de 3n3rgy, 15 February 2014 - 04:14 AM.
less of the snide


#1967    laver

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Posted 14 February 2014 - 11:24 PM

View PostKludge808, on 14 February 2014 - 07:27 PM, said:

No, laver, you have not presented one fact anywhere.  Not one.  Instead you've brought out claims that have been shown to be totally wrong and supposition based on those claims.  If you want facts, read Badeskov's post because he's summarized them rather well.  Those are real world facts as opposed to your imagined ones.  Of course, you'll just claim that he's trying to deceive your imaginary "UM users" (none of whom have stepped in to your defense - amazing that!) and very possibly go on to do a bit of character assassination as you do using what are rapidly becoming your customary borderline - or maybe not so borderline - ad hominim attacks.

And after that you'll regurgitate the same lame material you've posted countless times with absolutely no hard evidence to back it.  None whatsoever.  Now, before you tell me - or anyone - to buy the book, let me remind you that it's you making the claims so it's you who has to provide supporting evidence.  It's you who has to trot out all that "meticulous research" and present it.  You made the claims and all along you have refused to back them even though that's your responsibility.  It's your kuleana, not ours, so get cracking.

As you fully aware full details have been posted about the geometric proposals of this thread.

Your problem seems to be that you just don't like these geometric facts with clues from the Book of Revelation but

facts are facts, as has been demonstrated, and it is quite easy for other UM users to check them using Wikipedia and the FCC.

Would suggest you consider your motives in the comments made in your post very carefully.

You make it clear that like most debunkers of this thread you have not even read Furlong's book 'The Keys to the Temple'

which I think most observers would say is hardly a good starting point to try and debunk the thread with any credibility.


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Posted 14 February 2014 - 11:52 PM

View Postbee, on 14 February 2014 - 07:38 PM, said:

Good question :)

I suppose it must be the position it occupied - occupies ?

It's an interesting shape anyway. I presume that the buildings on the right side of the picture are the working farm...

But I suspect the building and land that makes a 'kite' shape...incorporating a pyramid :o is the important 'Temple Farm'

The posh house and gardens...lol


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and interestingly we have an angle of 110 degrees in the kite shape


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Interesting, a hand for this poster for spotting that one.
Might be nothing in it.... but you never know....110 degrees from this very spot takes us to the Holy Land at
Mount Arbel / Magdala and on the way highlights 5 of the 7 'church' sites from the Book of Revelations. The
most significant of these 5 is Laodicea being on the 110 degree bearing and the text of Revelation says in the
message to Laodicea ' you are neither hot nor cold' and the source of the Book of Revelation says -
'Here I stand knocking at the door......'
There is clearly an important message in all this with the later proofs provided by bearings from the Great Pyramid....

Maybe we shall have to see what that message might be at some future date.....


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Posted 15 February 2014 - 12:02 AM

View Postlaver, on 14 February 2014 - 11:24 PM, said:

You make it clear that like most debunkers of this thread you have not even read Furlong's book 'The Keys to the Temple'
which I think most observers would say is hardly a good starting point to try and debunk the thread with any credibility.
So basically, you've got nothing and refuse to present any supporting evidence of ypur "facts."  132 pages ... 1970+ posts and you've still not done what is your responsibility, that being to provide hard supporting evidence.  That doesn't mean tell people to buy the book, it means to trot out the material yourself.  It doesn't mean tell your imaginary audience that we're worried about anything - which we most certainly aren't - it means to provide the supporting evidence yourself.  It doesn't mean insulting people and attacking them rather than their posts, it means responding to the facts in their posts with hard evidence.  Constantly repeating the same thing over and over is not providing evidence, it's showing the world you have absolutely nothing.

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Posted 15 February 2014 - 12:21 AM

View PostKludge808, on 13 February 2014 - 07:31 PM, said:

UM needs to create an award for folks who put themselves through that sort of grief.  Kind of a digital purple heart.

Well, I am here to read stuff, to learn, to debunk, to be educated, so I guess part of that duty is to read through a thread I found interesting...at least to start out.

What's more interesting to me than the actual crop circles is why people would continue to make these and why people would still consider them alien/supernatural/whatever.

The first part is easy: 1) to gain some sort of attention, even if it is just anonymous--some people are just attention whores (pardon the word please); 2) because it's fun sometimes fooling people (shame on them for taking advantage of the gullible).T

he second is because most people don't like to be wrong, and will argue to the death before admitting they were fooled.  Easier to get more research funded if you're "never" wrong; Also, some people are just oriented differently in the brain and/or are conditioned to immediately respond to something apparently unexplainable by unswervingly revert to the most absurd and difficult explanations possible.

This is more interesting than the actual crop circles.

Edited by Hida Akechi, 15 February 2014 - 12:22 AM.

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That give me my sour stomach each morning...

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Posted 15 February 2014 - 12:26 AM

View PostMyles, on 14 February 2014 - 10:48 PM, said:

You mean - pretend that they have.



Which one's?

Echo that!

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Posted 15 February 2014 - 12:33 AM

View Postlaver, on 14 February 2014 - 10:23 PM, said:


As any UM user who has seen previous posts, and is not a member of the debunking team, will realise - this is just a load of tosh

Unfortunately, that count is 1 - you - it seems. And you can only pretend that it is a load of tosh; if it actually was a load of tosh, you'd be able to argue your point with cold, hard facts. Which you obviously can't. I'll repeat myself, you are simply plain out wrong and the only one in this thread not realizing that is you. Whether you are intellectually incapable of understanding this or you don't want to, I cannot answer. But the fact is that you either can't or won't accept what you have been shown.

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Posted 15 February 2014 - 12:36 AM

View Postlaver, on 14 February 2014 - 10:26 PM, said:

What a waste of two cents...

If my post was in response to you, indeed it would have been a waste of two cents, no doubts. But  I am sure others, in contrast to you,  get the gist of what I was posting.

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Posted 15 February 2014 - 02:27 AM

View Postlaver, on 14 February 2014 - 10:47 PM, said:

You seem very worried by a few simple geometric truths

Since you haven't presented any, it is irrelevant. But is worrying to me, and I am probably not alone in harbouring that view, is the level of ignorance you are willing to put on display. Mind boggling to say the least.  

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that some other UM users are clearly interested in......

Pray tell, who would those UM users be?

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Edited by badeskov, 15 February 2014 - 02:28 AM.

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Posted 15 February 2014 - 05:04 AM

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