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Crop Circles just one sign of Revelation


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#511    Quaentum

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 03:52 PM

View Postlaver, on 25 July 2013 - 10:16 PM, said:

The generally accepted end of a 5000 year Mayan time cycle is about NOW....
The appearance of many crop designs has only happened in very recent years, so about NOW....
The discovery of landscape geometry with actual links to the Book of Revelations and ancient sacred sites in the Holy Land has come to light recently, so about NOW....

It is thus perfectly reasonable to propose that a time of Revelation may be about NOW......

NOW is based on outdated information so is inaccurate.  NOW is generally accepted since most people aren't aware of the updated information.  Using NOW (outdated information) does nothing to support your hypothesis but can damage credibility.

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They didn't use thousands of workers - oops forgot about the work camps
There's no evidence for ramps - You found one?...Bummer
Well we know they didn't use ancient tools to cut and shape the stones - Chisel marks?  Craps
I still say aliens built them!

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 04:31 PM

View Postlaver, on 25 July 2013 - 11:19 PM, said:

Many different opinions about the Great Pyramid being just a tomb. No body or usual treasures of a king or evidence that these were later removed ?

But tomb or not the pyramid was definitely built to a design that incorporated geometric principles and on a massive and durable scale which we would find very hard to replicate today thousands of years later. Why ?

Maybe as a geometric marker with clues as to how to use it to resolve an ancient mystery and as this leads us to the Book of Revelations, written thousands of years later, a mystery that has stood the test of time.

If we are now in a position to understand some of that mystery then, presumably, this must be a time of Revelation ?

The existence of a sarcophagus and funerary building pretty much attest to it being a place of internment.  That there was no body could be attributed to grave robbers.

Yes it is a geometric shape and one discovered independently by different peoples all over the world.

Why would they build such a large structure.  Because many things in Egypt were constructed based on the persons stature.  Larger stature larger works.  Just take a look at some of the large statues of the Pharaoh to see evidence of it.  Heck look at the Lincoln memorial and the size of the statue of the president to see it's still done today.
Hard to replicate today?  I somehow doubt that.  Look at St Petersburg Basilica built in the 1500's.  It is nearly as big as the great pyramid

The only mystery is why people ignore what is evident.

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They didn't use thousands of workers - oops forgot about the work camps
There's no evidence for ramps - You found one?...Bummer
Well we know they didn't use ancient tools to cut and shape the stones - Chisel marks?  Craps
I still say aliens built them!

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 10:35 PM

View PostQuaentum, on 26 July 2013 - 03:52 PM, said:

NOW is based on outdated information so is inaccurate.  NOW is generally accepted since most people aren't aware of the updated information.  Using NOW (outdated information) does nothing to support your hypothesis but can damage credibility.

The items mentioned are possible signs that we may now be at a time of Revelation. The landscape geometry that leads us to the churches of Revelation, based on the geometry of the Great Pyramid as discovered by David Furlong on the Marlborough Downs, is the major clue that this may be the case. It is quite factual. The focal point that Furlong identifies, Temple Farm near Marlborough in Wiltshire, Latitude 51 degrees 27 minutes North and Longitude 1 degree 48 minutes West, give whole degree great circle bearings which align many sites in the Holy Land and Eastern Mediterranean and highlight the churches of Revelation which would seem to be confirmed by comments in the text of Revelations all as detailed in previous posts on this topic on UM.

This is new information which has not been published before so can hardly be 'outdated' !

It raises the quite reasonable question.....is this a time of Revelation ?


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Posted 01 August 2013 - 09:08 AM

To those interested in the crop circle aspect of this topic an interesting example has been reported in Stadskanaal in the Netherlands on 30th July this year.
This can be seen on Crop Circle Connector with what has been claimed are 'before and after' photos.
The initial field reports indicate that this may be an authentic crop design and not man made. No doubt there will be proposals as to what the design means.


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Posted 01 August 2013 - 11:04 AM

I think it means a group of people did a fine job doing this.


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Posted 01 August 2013 - 04:44 PM

View Postlaver, on 26 July 2013 - 10:35 PM, said:

The items mentioned are possible signs that we may now be at a time of Revelation. The landscape geometry that leads us to the churches of Revelation, based on the geometry of the Great Pyramid as discovered by David Furlong on the Marlborough Downs, is the major clue that this may be the case. It is quite factual. The focal point that Furlong identifies, Temple Farm near Marlborough in Wiltshire, Latitude 51 degrees 27 minutes North and Longitude 1 degree 48 minutes West, give whole degree great circle bearings which align many sites in the Holy Land and Eastern Mediterranean and highlight the churches of Revelation which would seem to be confirmed by comments in the text of Revelations all as detailed in previous posts on this topic on UM.

This is new information which has not been published before so can hardly be 'outdated' !

It raises the quite reasonable question.....is this a time of Revelation ?

The outdated information was a reference to when the Mayan Calendar ends.  Use of the outdated information about the Mayan Calendar does nothing to support your position that now is the time of revelation.

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 10:59 AM

View PostQuaentum, on 01 August 2013 - 04:44 PM, said:

The outdated information was a reference to when the Mayan Calendar ends.  Use of the outdated information about the Mayan Calendar does nothing to support your position that now is the time of revelation.

As I understand the current situation there has been no change to the general agreement that the Mayan long count cycle ended at the end of last year.

As stated in previous posts it is maybe just a coincidence that this calendar cycle ends at this time but it is possible that it is not a coincidence so it is worth considering because we can now see the geometric links to the Holy Land and the churches mentioned at the start of the Book of Revelations, from proposed ancient landscape geometry in southern Britain. This is a fact but some might dismiss it as also a 'coincidence'. Alternatively it is a sign that we may be at a time of Revelation.

Why was the Book of Revelations written if not to provide us with clues about a future time when things would be revealed ?

It was obviously considered of great importance or it would not have been included as the last book of the bible and the text clearly indicates that understanding the ancient landscape geometry is the key to Revelations.


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Posted 02 August 2013 - 02:00 PM

http://www.telegraph...rs-plummet.html
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i guess the "aliens" finally woke up to the fact that the bible is just a book filled with allegorical tales written by a bunch of semi-nomadic goatherders.
maybe the next wave of "visitors" will start basing "their" designs on something with better source material-
like the collected works of hans christian andersen.....

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 03:06 PM

View PostMyles, on 01 August 2013 - 11:04 AM, said:

I think it means a group of people did a fine job doing this.

Maybe but maybe not, quite a 'conspiracy' of people to set this one up but some interesting designs now appearing in UK this month


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Posted 02 August 2013 - 03:43 PM

http://i.telegraph.c...le_2632689e.jpg
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Posted 02 August 2013 - 03:55 PM

Just because someone doesn't understand how a complex crop circle is made doesn't mean that it was made for ET. Now, I do believe that there's something strange going on out-there (in the sky/space), but that doesn't mean I am going to believe everything I see on the Internet.
There are lots of people with huge and deep knowledge of math, binary code and more, what is so ET about it? I don't get it.


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Posted 02 August 2013 - 04:18 PM

I just dont get what it is about people that they so want to believe in an end times at all. christians have been convinced its coming for the last 2000 years - and its always just around the corner. We will all experience our own personal end time in its own time but the world and the universe are pretty much guaranteed to continue perfectly well without us.


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Posted 02 August 2013 - 08:44 PM

View Postlaver, on 03 July 2013 - 02:45 PM, said:

Was the Great Pyramid just a tomb ?
Yes.

View Postlaver, on 20 July 2013 - 11:15 AM, said:

An interesting crop design was reported on 15th July at Hackpen Hill Nr Broad Wiltshire in the UK. (see Crop Circle Connector for details)
It is man made, IMHO.

View Postlaver, on 25 July 2013 - 10:16 PM, said:

The generally accepted end of a 5000 year Mayan time cycle is about NOW....
The appearance of many crop designs has only happened in very recent years, so about NOW....
The discovery of landscape geometry with actual links to the Book of Revelations and ancient sacred sites in the Holy Land has come to light recently, so about NOW....

It is thus perfectly reasonable to propose that a time of Revelation may be about NOW......
That does not make sense. It is the same as if I said... It is Tuesday, and birds are flying south, and I found a bunch of dead grasshoppers... so there must be some kind of military germ warfare trials going on.

There is no way to link the Mayan Calendar to Jesus. The Mayans didn't even exist when Jesus walked the earth.
Crop circles haven't been proven to be anything but hoaxes so far.
Alignments between places in the Bible and England are coincidence. And I've not seen any evidence to show otherwise.

Averaging a set of datapoints and getting a number near what you want does not mean those datapoints are valid. You can draw a great circle through each of those church locations and have it hit the Holy Land. And you'd be hard pressed to have a line pass over the Holy Land and not pass near something significant. It is coincidence.

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Posted 03 August 2013 - 10:31 AM

View PostMrBene, on 02 August 2013 - 03:55 PM, said:

Just because someone doesn't understand how a complex crop circle is made doesn't mean that it was made for ET. Now, I do believe that there's something strange going on out-there (in the sky/space), but that doesn't mean I am going to believe everything I see on the Internet.
There are lots of people with huge and deep knowledge of math, binary code and more, what is so ET about it? I don't get it.

Crop designs are a phenomena that is not easily explained by the theory that they are all manmade. So it is worth considering all other options and if a non terrestial origin of some of them is one option then we would logically ask WHY and also WHY NOW........


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Posted 03 August 2013 - 10:58 AM

View PostSkithia, on 02 August 2013 - 04:18 PM, said:

I just dont get what it is about people that they so want to believe in an end times at all. christians have been convinced its coming for the last 2000 years - and its always just around the corner. We will all experience our own personal end time in its own time but the world and the universe are pretty much guaranteed to continue perfectly well without us.

Many cultures believed in the concept of an ' End of Time ' or a time of great change/return. In the bible this is mentioned by Jesus and the Book of Revelations is apparently about this period in time. Much of the bible is not supported by scientific investigations over the years but by reading between the lines may be useful.

The Book of Revelations states that there is a 'secret meaning' in the churches chosen for messages in the first 3 chapters and when these churches can now be seen to be geometrically highlighted by what seems to be very ancient landscape geometry leading to the Holy Land it seems only right to point out this discovery because it might mean that we are at a time of Revelation ?





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