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#826    DieChecker

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 02:53 AM

I was reading some Christian literature and I felt I had to post a reply here.

In answer to Laver's question: Is this a time of Revelation?

Answer: According to Christian thought, all time is a time of Revelation. The ways of the Lord are being revealed to millions of people all the time. It is what Prayer is used for basically. You pray for Revelation of a healing, or a miricle or some other thing to happen.

So now is a time of Revelation, for many people. But, this has nothing to do with aliens, crop circles, or lines that go across Europe to Israel. Sorry.

If you specifically mean is it the Time of Revelation? Then I'd still say "No", as few if any of the signs have been met.

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 09:53 AM

View PostDieChecker, on 28 August 2013 - 02:53 AM, said:

I was reading some Christian literature and I felt I had to post a reply here.

In answer to Laver's question: Is this a time of Revelation?

Answer: According to Christian thought, all time is a time of Revelation. The ways of the Lord are being revealed to millions of people all the time. It is what Prayer is used for basically. You pray for Revelation of a healing, or a miricle or some other thing to happen.

So now is a time of Revelation, for many people. But, this has nothing to do with aliens, crop circles, or lines that go across Europe to Israel. Sorry.

If you specifically mean is it the Time of Revelation? Then I'd still say "No", as few if any of the signs have been met.

On another thread there is a discussion about Gods and Aliens, are these two terms basically interchangeable.
If you concluded that they basically were your comment that a Time of Revelation has nothing to do with Gods/Aliens seems strange.
There is something very different about praying for the 'Revelation of a healing' and a 'Time of Revelation'. In the first you are asking for divine intervention on a personal matter and the second is the idea that there will come a time of Revelation, an unveiling or revealing of some greater truth.
From my limited understanding it is Jesus who indicates at various points, and in the Book of Revelations, that such a time will come and that we should keep our eyes open and look for signs of this 'Time of Revelation'.

This thread on UM is only doing just that because it proposes that within the Book of Revelations itself and elsewhere there are clues about an ancient geometric design of landscape geometry. These clues are often mathematical and geometric but sometimes not and would seem worthy of careful consideration.


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Posted 28 August 2013 - 12:13 PM

Laver Christians most definitely say no when you ask them if gods and aliens are interchangeable - of more specifically God isnt an alien even if Odin and Zeus might have been :)

As for

"These clues are often mathematical and geometric but sometimes not and would seem worthy of careful consideration. "


every time other posters on the thread have given them due consideration and found errors and misconceptions you have called them debunking trolls. There is no 'Time of Revelation' except in the sense that as a race we are discovering stuff every day and have been doing that pretty much since that ancient hominid fell out the tree.


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Posted 28 August 2013 - 03:46 PM

View PostSkithia, on 28 August 2013 - 12:13 PM, said:

Laver Christians most definitely say no when you ask them if gods and aliens are interchangeable - of more specifically God isnt an alien even if Odin and Zeus might have been :)

As for

"These clues are often mathematical and geometric but sometimes not and would seem worthy of careful consideration. "


every time other posters on the thread have given them due consideration and found errors and misconceptions you have called them debunking trolls. There is no 'Time of Revelation' except in the sense that as a race we are discovering stuff every day and have been doing that pretty much since that ancient hominid fell out the tree.

You say -
'Laver Christians most definitely say no when you ask them if gods and aliens are interchangeable - of more specifically God isnt an alien even if Odin and Zeus might have been :)

'Christians' come in all shapes, sizes and beliefs as you will know. Many have spent the time since Jesus killing each other over mildly different aspects of their beliefs and anyone who holds other beliefs. The God of the Old Testament is totally different to the God of the New Testament so what do they know about 'God' ? what they choose to believe - a non-terrestial superbeing - or an alien to some other people - what is in a name ?
Jesus is a very different and more complex proposition and many people believe the source of the Book of Revelations....hence this thread.
You say there is no such thing as a 'Time of Revelation' but there are clues that you might be wrong.......hence this thread

You say
'every time other posters on the thread have given them due consideration and found errors and misconceptions you have called them debunking trolls. There is no 'Time of Revelation' except in the sense that as a race we are discovering stuff every day and have been doing that pretty much since that ancient hominid fell out the tree.



That is a totally false statement and if you have read all the post you will know it.
I try to answer all questions accurately and where speculating try to say so.
There are those who have posted on this thread obvious and transparent falsehoods to decieve other UM users and they deserve our comtempt.
They will also ridicule,abuse and try to personalise the discussion, post masses of irrelevant information, distort facts and ignore those facts that do not support their beliefs.

I hope you are not one of them....

PS - Post no 825 - Clue Number 1 - The Great Pyramid - A geometric message - Previous posters tried to debunk that information, but it is true - a FACT


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Posted 28 August 2013 - 08:59 PM

View Postlaver, on 28 August 2013 - 09:53 AM, said:

On another thread there is a discussion about Gods and Aliens, are these two terms basically interchangeable.
If you concluded that they basically were your comment that a Time of Revelation has nothing to do with Gods/Aliens seems strange.
Yes, that is true. And all I require is scientifically verified evidence of aliens and I'll be willing to talk about that.

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There is something very different about praying for the 'Revelation of a healing' and a 'Time of Revelation'. In the first you are asking for divine intervention on a personal matter and the second is the idea that there will come a time of Revelation, an unveiling or revealing of some greater truth.
This also is true. So if your geometry is connected to Christianity, then if you were talking about it, it would be a time of revelation. The "greater truth" that is being revealed can be on an individual or a group level, and thus, we can assume that someone somewhere is understanding a greater truth at any one time. So all points of time are a Time of Revelation.

Whether any one day is within the time described in the Book of Revelation, that is a seperate issue.

"Is this a time of Revelation?" will always be true. "Are we within the age of the Book of Revelation" is a more meaningful question.

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From my limited understanding it is Jesus who indicates at various points, and in the Book of Revelations, that such a time will come and that we should keep our eyes open and look for signs of this 'Time of Revelation'.
Yes, we're to look for the signs of the Horsemen. Massive wide scale starvation. Massive national conquests (Nation consolidation). Massive world engulfing war. And the death of a quarter of the human race during the same timespan. That would be about 2 Billion dead. How many people have died this year?

According to several sites, the yearly death rate is a little less then 1%. About 56 million in 2012. Let's re-evaluate when the death rate gets to, say... 5%.

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 10:25 PM

View PostDieChecker, on 28 August 2013 - 08:59 PM, said:

Yes, that is true. And all I require is scientifically verified evidence of aliens and I'll be willing to talk about that.


This also is true. So if your geometry is connected to Christianity, then if you were talking about it, it would be a time of revelation. The "greater truth" that is being revealed can be on an individual or a group level, and thus, we can assume that someone somewhere is understanding a greater truth at any one time. So all points of time are a Time of Revelation.

Whether any one day is within the time described in the Book of Revelation, that is a seperate issue.

"Is this a time of Revelation?" will always be true. "Are we within the age of the Book of Revelation" is a more meaningful question.


Yes, we're to look for the signs of the Horsemen. Massive wide scale starvation. Massive national conquests (Nation consolidation). Massive world engulfing war. And the death of a quarter of the human race during the same timespan. That would be about 2 Billion dead. How many people have died this year?

According to several sites, the yearly death rate is a little less then 1%. About 56 million in 2012. Let's re-evaluate when the death rate gets to, say... 5%.

Many people would say  'And all I require is scientifically verified evidence of God' and I will think about it.

On the one hand you say every day is Revelation day, to someone somewhere

On the other hand it is only when the Lone Ranger and 3 mates ride over the hill.

I think you take some of the Book of Revelations too literally but here is something to think about -

The proposed ancient landscape geometry has its focal point in Wiltshire southern Britain

Crop circles have their focal point in Wiltshire southern Britain

And what do we find cut into the hills of Wiltshire southern Britain, and certainly at least one of them has been for a very very long time

White Horses..... just a thought .... but check it out.... it's a fact ....

NB - One white horse was seen and photographed at Temple Farm, Rockley, but then disappeared....


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Posted 28 August 2013 - 11:55 PM

View Postlaver, on 28 August 2013 - 10:25 PM, said:

White Horses..... just a thought .... but check it out.... it's a fact ....

NB - One white horse was seen and photographed at Temple Farm, Rockley, but then disappeared....
Those white horses are cool.

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 01:09 AM

View Postlaver, on 28 August 2013 - 03:46 PM, said:

Jesus is a very different and more complex proposition and many people believe the source of the Book of Revelations..
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but not in the way you think.
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..hence this thread.
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is nothing more than some way of pandering to your ego.
but hey, if you need that boost.....
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You say there is no such thing as a 'Time of Revelation'
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and she would be right.
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but there are clues that you might be wrong.
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which she isn't.
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......hence this thread
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being.....?!
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That is a totally false statement
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pot.
kettle.
black.
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and if you have read all the post you will know it.
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really....?
how?
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I try to answer all questions accurately
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you don't answer posts.
you have a reputation for not doing so.
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There are those who have posted on this thread obvious and transparent falsehoods
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I honestly couldn't give the @rse of a rat if I get (yet another) ban for my next comment, but you're being pathetic now laver-
and pathetic is,
as pathetic does.
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to decieve other UM users and they deserve our comtempt.
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''our''
I. honestly think you have a massively over-inflated opinion of both yourself,  and, well..,
yourself.
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They will also ridicule,
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pot.
kettle.
black.
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abuse
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pot.
kettle.
black.
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and try to personalise the discussion,
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pot.
kettle.
black.
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post masses of irrelevant information,
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pot.
kettle.
black.
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distort facts
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pot.
kettle.
black.
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and ignore those facts that do not support their beliefs.
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very pot.
very kettle
very black.
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I hope you are not one of them....
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why, because she's female..?
creepy.....
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PS - Post no 825 - Clue Number 1 - The Great Pyramid - A geometric message - Previous posters tried to debunk that information, but it is true - a FACT
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please, share with us this ''FACT''
pyramids, by their definition, are geometric shapes, and it's not really rocket surgery to build one.
try learning engineering & mathematics.
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or would you rather keep belabouring your ''point'' by repeating the same old ''facts''??
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thread my @rse

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 03:05 AM

View Postlaver, on 28 August 2013 - 10:25 PM, said:

Many people would say  'And all I require is scientifically verified evidence of God' and I will think about it.

On the one hand you say every day is Revelation day, to someone somewhere

On the other hand it is only when the Lone Ranger and 3 mates ride over the hill.

I think you take some of the Book of Revelations too literally but here is something to think about -

The proposed ancient landscape geometry has its focal point in Wiltshire southern Britain

Crop circles have their focal point in Wiltshire southern Britain

And what do we find cut into the hills of Wiltshire southern Britain, and certainly at least one of them has been for a very very long time

White Horses..... just a thought .... but check it out.... it's a fact ....

NB - One white horse was seen and photographed at Temple Farm, Rockley, but then disappeared....

Yes they are, the one on the Wiltshire/ Oxfordshire border has been dated back to the Bronze Age.
Others seem much more recent but could be recuts on older sites.

Does this relate to the topic of this thread

Not really, just another interesting Wiltshire fact and Wiltshire has clearly been a spiritual location for thousands of years.

Note - reply to Die Checker

Edited by laver, 29 August 2013 - 03:08 AM.


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Posted 29 August 2013 - 03:07 AM

nothing says spiritual like a random ass place in the middle of england

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 03:24 AM

View PostSkepticalB, on 29 August 2013 - 03:07 AM, said:

nothing says spiritual like a random ass place in the middle of england

Many very ancient and obvious sacred sites in Wiltshire which must have been related to the spirituality of the people at that time


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Posted 29 August 2013 - 03:32 AM

View PostHannan688, on 29 August 2013 - 03:15 AM, said:

I'm curious - what messages are being transmitted mathematically in crop circles?

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The most famous is probably the Pi Crop Circle worth a look if you google it. Amazing, however it was created ?


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Posted 29 August 2013 - 05:15 AM

View Postlaver, on 29 August 2013 - 03:32 AM, said:

The most famous is probably the Pi Crop Circle worth a look if you google it. Amazing, however it was created ?
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Posted 29 August 2013 - 08:10 AM

View PostSkepticalB, on 29 August 2013 - 03:07 AM, said:

nothing says spiritual like a random ass place in the middle of england
And why should a random ass place in the middle of england not be? Could you explain why that's such an improbable concept?

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 09:56 AM

View PostSir Wearer of Hats, on 29 August 2013 - 05:15 AM, said:

Faeries, operating upon orders from the Ascended Basset Masters, may their drool lubricate you upon your journey of enlightenment.

Faeries ! That's a new one.....is that as in..' away with the fairies '... hav'nt seen any at the bottom of my garden......





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