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Mind Control. It's been here the whole time.

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#241    jaylemurph

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 08:55 PM

View PostEmma_Acid, on 20 March 2013 - 01:47 PM, said:

Yes, the work is very prescient. But you do act as if everything has to have a nefarious reason. Changing the title (even if he did change it) from 1980 to 1984 might just be artistic license. But for you, it has to be part of a conspiracy. You only see what you want to see.

I can't be bothered to read through the amount of previous drivel in this thread, but PL, you do know 1984 came out in 1948, right? The decision to jack the title date up by four years isn't all that mysterious in marketing terms.

Unless... you don't think there's some sort of prescient conspiracy involving Hammer Horror and Bram Stoker that caused the creation of Dracula 1972 AD, do you? I mean, Christopher Neame's dancing in it is pretty damn groovy, so I can see how it could have been used to manipulate certain people. Granted, I'm not sure what the secret world government would do with mind-controlled gay dudes in 1972, but I sure bet it would be /evil/.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 09:30 PM

One simple test we gave people who were being admitted to the mental ward was have them count from one to twenty. A large number of schizophrenics (or "mind control victims") cannot concentrate long enough to perform this task. There are other possible causes for this of course, but when a normally functioning person discovers they can no longer count to twenty, they know something is wrong.

If my mind is under some kind of external control, there should be a similar test to show the control is preventing my brain from doing something. If there isn't a test then the supposed control is not doing anything.


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Posted 21 March 2013 - 09:47 PM

Okay. But you dont describe the kind of test that would reveal definitely whether there's mind control or not, or whether some part of your screws is loose or not. Can you describe such an all-covering test?

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 12:31 AM

View Postscowl, on 21 March 2013 - 09:30 PM, said:

One simple test we gave people who were being admitted to the mental ward was have them count from one to twenty. A large number of schizophrenics (or "mind control victims") cannot concentrate long enough to perform this task. There are other possible causes for this of course, but when a normally functioning person discovers they can no longer count to twenty, they know something is wrong.

If my mind is under some kind of external control, there should be a similar test to show the control is preventing my brain from doing something. If there isn't a test then the supposed control is not doing anything.

I can help you find that test.  State your reasons you believe you are not being mind controlled.  Do the same for "society as a whole."  If you can, weight your reasons with a percentage.


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Posted 22 March 2013 - 01:16 AM

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Yes, mind control has been in effect the entire existence of humanity.  It is called society, the generally agreed upon rules of how one interacts with others.  So everyone except for those that do suffer extreme psychological illnesses fall under mind control.  However, to touch back on one of your points from prior about Woodward and Bernstein, that isn't a result of the nefarious mind control that you espouse, it is the result of social mores that place less emphasis on truth and evidence, but only focuses on results.  This is a natural ebb and flow of any and all societies.  It happened with the Greeks, the Egyptians, the Romans, what makes any other civilization any different from all the other civilizations that have come and gone?

So we all suffer from mind control, and we all willingly accept that control.

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 02:40 AM

Oh. I love this! A believer in mind-control has challenged us to provide one simple test to prove that we are not being mind-controlled! I like it! It has the simplicity of the ancient Greek paradoxes. Only it's more complicated. So, let's see if I can figure this out logically.

prometheuslocke believes that schizophrenia is not a real illness, or is only sometimes real (her position is variable on this), but anyway, her basic point seems to be that if you have many of the typical symptoms of schizophrenia, such as tendency to read profound significance that everyone else has missed into absolutely everything, and weave these revelations into an all-encompassing pattern that unfortunately reveals the existence of a vast conspiracy which can do absolutely anything except silence people who talk about it on the internet at great length for years - by the way, in case you hadn't noticed, real governments really can trace you from what you're saying right here - but you flatly refuse to admit that you're ill, then of course you're not ill - you're being mind-controlled.

Well, I don't have any problems of that nature, so clearly I'm neither schizophrenic nor genuinely being influenced by 5,000-year-old space Illuminati paranoia rays. prometheuslocke, on the other hand... Ah, but wait, I got that a bit wrong, didn't I? People with allegedly schizoid symptoms are only being mind-controlled if they know they're being mind-controlled. prometheuslocke certainly exhibits this type of thinking, but since she knows she's not being mind-controlled, then she must be... er... perfectly sane and not mind-controlled? Totally insane but at least not mind-controlled? I've kind of lost track. What kind of lousy mind-control is it that lets people know it's happening anyway?

Well, I'm fairly sure that I'm not mentally ill, and I certainly don't feel that vast shadowy organizations are out to get me with secret alien rays (just as well - I have the same postcode as the Freemasons). So there you go - I'm not being mind-controlled. Unless of course alleged schizophrenics who refuse to accept that they're ill are in fact failed mind-control victims, and those of us who are being properly controlled don't know it. It's harder than I thought to figure this out.

Oh, hang about - if the Illuminati can implant irrational ideas into the heads of almost anyone so perfectly that they don't know the ideas aren't their own, and there is no defense against this, since she said herself that according to sufferers she'd spoken to, electromagnetic shielding doesn't work (by the way, I take it we're literally talking about tinfoil beanies here?), tell me, prometheuslocke, how do you know that you haven't been mind-controlled?

For example, you find it enormously significant that George Orwell wrote a book called 1984, and consider that year to be a major part of your conspiracy theory for that reason. You do realize, don't you, that you're saying that either George Orwell knew the entire alien master-plan but chose to uselessly reveal it only in a book-title that nobody but you has ever properly understood, and that after it was too late to help, or he could see 36 years into the future by magic? Though actually he's not the only person to have seen a special significance in that year - I look forward to your interpretation of David Bowie's album Diamond Dogs.

Oops! Dammit! I've been very, very stupid, and missed the truly logical solution. To find out whether or not we're being controlled by these Egyptian alien Nazis or whatever, we just have to ask ourselves one very simple question - are we in 100% agreement with prometheuslocke, or not? If your answer is "no", then...

Oh dear! It seems we've all been got at! Which, prommie my dear, since these terrible people can read minds as easily as they can control them, means that I'm afraid they - or rather, we, are onto you! My sincere condolences on your imminent assassination by some random stranger who says the voices made him do it. Unless of course you're wrong? In which case, feel free not to be murdered.

I rather think the onus is on you to explain how you know that you aren't being controlled by undetectable forces so powerful that they can create Nazi Germany just by pressing a button. Come on, there must be some simple test - is it like The Invaders, and anyone who can bend their pinkie isn't an alien? Because, having issued this challenge, you're going to have to apply it to yourself. Otherwise all you're saying is: "Anyone who disagrees with my incoherent and seemingly insane world-view is a Zombie Space Nazi because they don't agree with my incoherent and seemingly insane world-view."

I look forward to a reply which proves I'm wrong by telling me to go and read hundreds of webpages which are either irrelevant or written by prommie, and of course totally ignores all of the above.


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Posted 22 March 2013 - 08:06 AM

You must have taken a very long time to write such a well thought out and pertinent response.  I love the parts where you attribute arguments that are definitely mine, to me.  Also, you do a wonderful job of following the previous conversation.  Everything you said is 100% accurate.  Thank God you love the idea of creating a litmus test, now we will all be able to sleep better.

Don't call me prommie.

Orwell received his "prophesy" via mind control, obviously.  That's why they call it divine inspiration.  I'm not mind controlled, I just know everything.

Have you considered that perhaps I am not really a person, but rather your subconscious desire to believe that the Earth is flat?

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 08:24 AM

I have been reading this thread for quite some time.
I am familiar with the aspects of Quatnum physics and the entaglement on a basic level, but not too deep into it , like the others are.
I have just few questions -

The title of your Post says Xeno-mind control influenced humanity since before Egypt. Here's my proof.

Q.1. From all the posts in this thread i have read so far, i dont see any mention of XENO. how come?
Q.2. "since before Egypt". but i dont see any posts with proper evidence supporting the existence of Mind Control from the Ancient times. How come?
Q.3 . combining both the above questions - i dont see any relevant material in your posts substantiating the existence of aliens in the ancient times controlling the minds of humanity. how come?

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 09:34 AM

View Postjaylemurph, on 21 March 2013 - 08:55 PM, said:

I can't be bothered to read through the amount of previous drivel in this thread, but PL, you do know 1984 came out in 1948, right? The decision to jack the title date up by four years isn't all that mysterious in marketing terms.

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Also, Orwell's wife wrote a poem titled 'End Of A Century, 1984' - she died a few years before Nineteen Eighty Four was finished.

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 01:54 PM

View PostThe_Spartan, on 22 March 2013 - 08:24 AM, said:

I have been reading this thread for quite some time.
I am familiar with the aspects of Quatnum physics and the entaglement on a basic level, but not too deep into it , like the others are.
I have just few questions -

The title of your Post says Xeno-mind control influenced humanity since before Egypt. Here's my proof.

Q.1. From all the posts in this thread i have read so far, i dont see any mention of XENO. how come?
Q.2. "since before Egypt". but i dont see any posts with proper evidence supporting the existence of Mind Control from the Ancient times. How come?
Q.3 . combining both the above questions - i dont see any relevant material in your posts substantiating the existence of aliens in the ancient times controlling the minds of humanity. how come?

And the biggest item left out is the bold portion above. The claim was of prometheuslocke having "proof". So where's it at? It hasn't made an appearance in the last 249 posts and no her opinion, speculation or even personal theory don't count as proof. Said proof has been noticably absent since the OP.

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 02:30 PM

View PostThe_Spartan, on 22 March 2013 - 08:24 AM, said:

I have been reading this thread for quite some time.
I am familiar with the aspects of Quatnum physics and the entaglement on a basic level, but not too deep into it , like the others are.
I have just few questions -

The title of your Post says Xeno-mind control influenced humanity since before Egypt. Here's my proof.

Q.1. From all the posts in this thread i have read so far, i dont see any mention of XENO. how come?
Q.2. "since before Egypt". but i dont see any posts with proper evidence supporting the existence of Mind Control from the Ancient times. How come?
Q.3 . combining both the above questions - i dont see any relevant material in your posts substantiating the existence of aliens in the ancient times controlling the minds of humanity. how come?

You haven't looked closely enough.  Granted the forum is somewhat difficult to navigate when you have nearly twenty pages to go through, but the answers to your questions are there.

Things I think "alien mind control" had a huge hand in:

The Dendera Light
The Exodus
The Elusinian Mysteries, Alexander,and his teachers.
The Fall of Rome
The Creation of the RC Chruch
The Crusades
Several notable scientific accomplishments in Cambridge
The creation and rise of several secret societies, including Thule
The Rise and Fall of Adolph Hitler

After the crusades it became much harder to trace.   I have some theories as to why, the most prominent that our written record was no longer malleable, and it would have been much harder to hide evidence of its existence.

Edited by prometheuslocke, 22 March 2013 - 02:34 PM.


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Posted 22 March 2013 - 04:20 PM

View Postprometheuslocke, on 22 March 2013 - 12:31 AM, said:

I can help you find that test.  State your reasons you believe you are not being mind controlled.

I already did. My mind functions independently. I can think whatever I want. Nothing is stopping or controlling my mind other than me.

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Do the same for "society as a whole."  If you can, weight your reasons with a percentage.

I can't evaluate the mental abilities for all of society. You can't either.

I can tell you that there is no plausible method of the mind control you're describing and since you have no evidence to dispute that, your theory is unfounded.


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Posted 22 March 2013 - 05:15 PM

View Postscowl, on 22 March 2013 - 04:20 PM, said:

I already did. My mind functions independently. I can think whatever I want. Nothing is stopping or controlling my mind other than me.



I can't evaluate the mental abilities for all of society. You can't either.

I can tell you that there is no plausible method of the mind control you're describing and since you have no evidence to dispute that, your theory is unfounded.

What you are saying is you have no reason.  "I have no evidence" and "you think for yourself" are not reasons that you could not be controlled by an external influence.  The simple fact that you really have no reason not to believe me, but yet you vehemently disagree, is proof to me that your beliefs are being altered.

I'm sure you will disagree.  Let's stop discussing it


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Posted 22 March 2013 - 05:46 PM

View Postprometheuslocke, on 22 March 2013 - 05:15 PM, said:

What you are saying is you have no reason.  "I have no evidence" and "you think for yourself" are not reasons that you could not be controlled by an external influence.

There can never exist any "reasons that you could not be controlled by an external influence."

There can only be reasons that you could be so controlled.

You can't prove a negative, and using such an argument is a sure sign of no legs to stand on.

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 06:04 PM

View PostEmma_Acid, on 22 March 2013 - 09:34 AM, said:

Also, Orwell's wife wrote a poem titled 'End Of A Century, 1984' - she died a few years before Nineteen Eighty Four was finished.

Something I pointed out about the title of "Nineteen Eighty-Four" in an earlier post

View PostTheSearcher, on 19 March 2013 - 01:57 PM, said:

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Also I would like to point out that the title of the book "Nineteen Eighty-Four" (which is the correct title and not "1984") has actually not been changed three times, from 1980, to 1982, to 1984. That's an unproven theory by Ben Pimlott, which you'll only find specifically in the introduction to the Penguin Books Modern Classics edition of "Nineteen Eighty-Four". Pimlott was a good historian but sometimes a bit controversial with his statements. This happens to be one of them, as far as I know it was never conclusively proven. However, "The Last Man in Europe" was one of the original titles for the novel, but in a letter dated 22 October 1948 to his publisher Fredric Warburg, Orwell wrote about hesitating between the former and "Nineteen Eighty-Four".

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