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[Andromedan Starseed 333]

thats sad i mean your going to kill animals to these gods!!!?i don't care if they are old or young the point is thats wrong.im more thamn sure than if you just pray and do other things that don't involve killing animals they still listen and etc.and besides i believe that we are gods were part of the creator we are all exntensions of the creator.we are not separate of the creator and im not talking about none of these gods that religions speak of either when i say the creator.god id love and only unconditional love only.as for the animals that were foung well i wish them they are in a better place.mind as well study the animals that are mummified

[WoIverine]

I hope they were mostly Chihuahuas.

[the L]

WoIverine, on 08 January 2013 - 09:34 PM, said:

I hope they were mostly Chihuahuas.

I think they are Aztecs dog.

[kmt_sesh]

King Cobra 1408, on 08 January 2013 - 08:57 PM, said:

thats sad i mean your going to kill animals to these gods!!!?i don't care if they are old or young the point is thats wrong.im more thamn sure than if you just pray and do other things that don't involve killing animals they still listen and etc.and besides i believe that we are gods were part of the creator we are all exntensions of the creator.we are not separate of the creator and im not talking about none of these gods that religions speak of either when i say the creator.god id love and only unconditional love only.as for the animals that were foung well i wish them they are in a better place.mind as well study the animals that are mummified

Your description fits a decent modern religious framework but would not be understood by most ancient Near Easterners. Animal sacrifice was an integral part of worship in many ancient societies. We use the modern word "sacrifice" but it is a concept that was well understood in ancient times: when it comes to beseeching the gods, one must give something to get something. It's become very watered down in most modern Western religions, such as in my own Roman Catholic upbringing where we abstain from consuming meat on Fridays during Lent. This would've been wholly insufficient to the ancient mind.

I'm also skeptical of the figure of eight million but there's no doubting the ancient Egyptians sacrificed and mummified millions of animals. This took place mostly from the Late Period through Roman times, until Christianity supplanted the weakened pagan religion. All sorts of animals were mummified—dogs were actually not as common in this practice as were falcons, ibises, and cats, among others.

The article quotes Salima Ikram, arguably the world's leading scholar in ancient Egyptian animal mummification. However many dogs they've actually found at Saqqara, it's bound to be a hell of a lot. Saqqara was always an important cemetery, and Anubis was always one of the primary underworld gods. The sacrifices of dogs to him only makes sense. I've read of other large deposits of dog mummies at sites like Abydos, so Saqqara is hardly unique in this regard.

In the end it's a matter of understanding (or at least trying to understand) how the ancient mind worked and how ancient religions were conducted. Animal sacrifice was exceedingly common, and not just in Egypt.

WoIverine, on 08 January 2013 - 09:34 PM, said:

I hope they were mostly Chihuahuas.

Chihuahuas would've been a hell of a lot easier and quicker to mummify, that's for sure. Unfortunately for the Egyptians most of their dogs were larger in size. The modern breed known as Saluki is thought to have originated in Egypt, and mummified Salukis are well attested.

[King Fluffs]

That's a big number.

[WoIverine]

I know chihuahuas originate in south america, I just have a disdain for them after numerous difficulties and issues with an ex's chihuahuas. Never again, lesson learned!

Thanks for the Saluki information Kmt, that was insightful. I've never attempted to place a breed name with the types of dogs depicted in some of the ancient heiroglyphs. Congrats on the mod status.

Edited by WoIverine, 09 January 2013 - 05:48 AM.

[ufonuts]

I am really curious to know, how they came up with the exact number of Eight Million? Was someone actually standing there with their index finger pointing and saying..1...2..3...4 ???? Really now, what's up with that?

[ufonuts]

P.S. Egyptians were Aliens!

[TheSearcher]

the L, on 08 January 2013 - 07:56 PM, said:

I wonder how many time they spent to make one mummy?

If I'm not mistaken, the mummification process lasted for a period of 70 days.

- 15 days spent on cleansing and purification
- 40 days drying period
- 15 days wrapping, bandaging and paintings

Kmt, correct me if I'm wrong please, since you're more knowledgeable about the subject at hand.

[the L]

TheSearcher, on 09 January 2013 - 10:21 AM, said:

If I'm not mistaken, the mummification process lasted for a period of 70 days.

- 15 days spent on cleansing and purification
- 40 days drying period
- 15 days wrapping, bandaging and paintings

Kmt, correct me if I'm wrong please, since you're more knowledgeable about the subject at hand.

If so, then they spent much more time for mummifaction then I calculated in post 3.
Ofcourse we can imagine that whey wrapped more dogs at same time, but still. how many Egyptians have had population at that time?

These dogs must have been warpped while Africa was still green, imo.

[abhijit_b]

One more salute to the Egyptian Civilization..No other civilization can even stand to it's knee...

Whatever they did, they did in such a grand scale!!!...They must be more organized and focused society than we imagine or assume..Mummifying 8 million dogs will be a task of huge effort..Financially it may not be possible in the current volatile market, even if the task spans for hundreds of years!

it will be interesting to know their daily time management!

The Egyptians would have broken all records of Guinness Book, if they were here today!

[TheSearcher]

the L, on 09 January 2013 - 10:44 AM, said:

If so, then they spent much more time for mummifaction then I calculated in post 3.
Ofcourse we can imagine that whey wrapped more dogs at same time, but still. how many Egyptians have had population at that time?

These dogs must have been warpped while Africa was still green, imo.

If and that's a big if, the amount of dog mummies is correct, then what makes you say that this has happened in one go? I think we are talking a long period rather than a short one.

[the L]

TheSearcher, on 09 January 2013 - 11:51 AM, said:

If and that's a big if, the amount of dog mummies is correct, then what makes you say that this has happened in one go? I think we are talking a long period rather than a short one.

Long period for sure. Im trying to fit 8 million dogs into main stream view on AE. From 3100 to Augustus. But I suspect that dogs were mummifed long before 4th millenium because seems unbelievible that they wrapped 8 million dogs in that short period.

Edited by the L, 09 January 2013 - 12:10 PM.

[Taun]

Was the process of mummification (rituals, etc) the same/similar for animals as it was for humans?...  Did each dog get it's own set of canopic jars for example?...

Perhaps in addition to occuring over a vast period of time, it also took less time to do each one...

[mfrmboy]

Think they did it assembly line style.
Sold them in markets as prayer mummies.