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Occum's Razor = some Crop Circles are 'real'


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#1    laver

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 03:38 AM

' We are to admit no more causes of natural things than such as are true and explain their appearance'   -- Isaac Newton

Evidence from crop designs shows that some are made by the use of some sort of microwave energy, or similar, with evidence of heating to the plants to get them to bend
Recent proposals to explain this suggest that humans are using some sort of microwave device to create crop designs
This cannot be true as there is no evidence of human technology or ability to create large designs in this way or that there is a way to power such a device in the locations and circumstances where these designs suddenly appear
So those crop design that show evidence of 'microwave' heating must be of non human origin
It is the simplest solution  - Occum's Razor in practice


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Posted 09 January 2013 - 03:44 AM

View Postlaver, on 09 January 2013 - 03:38 AM, said:

' We are to admit no more causes of natural things than such as are true and explain their appearance'   -- Isaac Newton

Evidence from crop designs shows that some are made by the use of some sort of microwave energy, or similar, with evidence of heating to the plants to get them to bend
Recent proposals to explain this suggest that humans are using some sort of microwave device to create crop designs
This cannot be true as there is no evidence of human technology or ability to create large designs in this way or that there is a way to power such a device in the locations and circumstances where these designs suddenly appear
So those crop design that show evidence of 'microwave' heating must be of non human origin
It is the simplest solution  - Occum's Razor in practice
The plants were tired and needed a nap. Occam's Razor.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 03:49 AM

View PostHasina, on 09 January 2013 - 03:44 AM, said:

The plants were tired and needed a nap. Occam's Razor.

Ha ha... would that life were so simple


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Posted 09 January 2013 - 03:51 AM

View Postlaver, on 09 January 2013 - 03:38 AM, said:

It is the simplest solution


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Posted 09 January 2013 - 03:59 AM

View PostHasina, on 09 January 2013 - 03:44 AM, said:

The plants were tired and needed a nap. Occam's Razor.

Thats silly, Plants dont sleep :P

The most simple explonation is.... God did it.

Its his doodles when hes bored

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:04 AM

View PostHasina, on 09 January 2013 - 03:51 AM, said:


So if I read you right the microwave energy from some unknown source makes the plants fall asleep?


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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:04 AM

I'm finding it harder and harder to disagree with Hasina.
Good grief woman, get a boring avatar!


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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:04 AM

View Postlaver, on 09 January 2013 - 04:04 AM, said:

So if I read you right the microwave energy from some unknown source makes the plants fall asleep?
Ideal explained it. God did it. Occam's Razor.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:12 AM

Laver,

You already have the crop circle thread that you opened. Why open another?

Occam's Razor deduces that the simplest solution is that it was done by humans.

Where was the examples of microwaves by the way. I saw no references. :)


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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:32 AM

the microwaves is something that came up in the other thread, basically it's the supposed delineating line between manmade crop circles and genuinely alien ones.


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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:33 AM

View PostLikely Guy, on 09 January 2013 - 04:12 AM, said:

Laver,

You already have the crop circle thread that you opened. Why open another?

Occam's Razor deduces that the simplest solution is that it was done by humans.

Where was the examples of microwaves by the way. I saw no references. :)

No references seemed necessary it has been known for years

This is looking at the very important matter of crop designs from a rather different angle
The science world looking for some possible human reason for the microwave evidence
came up with the idea, unsubstantiated, that the crop circle makers are using some sort of a ray gun
to create the designs. This is so implausable that on the basis of Occum's Razor non human creation
is clearly a winner


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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:45 AM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 09 January 2013 - 04:04 AM, said:

I'm finding it harder and harder to disagree with Hasina.
Good grief woman, get a boring avatar!

Just a tip, I think the lady has a bit of thing about one of the Fraser bros !


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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:51 AM

View Postlaver, on 09 January 2013 - 04:33 AM, said:



No references seemed necessary it has been known for years

This is looking at the very important matter of crop designs from a rather different angle
The science world looking for some possible human reason for the microwave evidence
came up with the idea, unsubstantiated, that the crop circle makers are using some sort of a ray gun
to create the designs. This is so implausable that on the basis of Occum's Razor non human creation
is clearly a winner

"No references seemed necessary, it has been known for years"

Oh, really. Who, What, When, Where and How?

So far, you should re-explore the concept of 'Occam's Razor'.


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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:55 AM

View Postlaver, on 09 January 2013 - 03:38 AM, said:

' We are to admit no more causes of natural things than such as are true and explain their appearance'   -- Isaac Newton

Evidence from crop designs shows that some are made by the use of some sort of microwave energy, or similar, with evidence of heating to the plants to get them to bend
Recent proposals to explain this suggest that humans are using some sort of microwave device to create crop designs
This cannot be true as there is no evidence of human technology or ability to create large designs in this way or that there is a way to power such a device in the locations and circumstances where these designs suddenly appear
So those crop design that show evidence of 'microwave' heating must be of non human origin
It is the simplest solution  - Occum's Razor in practice

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:56 AM

View Postlaver, on 09 January 2013 - 04:33 AM, said:

No references seemed necessary it has been known for years

This is looking at the very important matter of crop designs from a rather different angle
The science world looking for some possible human reason for the microwave evidence
came up with the idea, unsubstantiated, that the crop circle makers are using some sort of a ray gun
to create the designs. This is so implausable that on the basis of Occum's Razor non human creation
is clearly a winner

Not sure if you understand the difference of implausibility between human generated crop circles and advanced aliens travelling the cosmos to draw circles in the grass AKA pee in the snow. I've always wondered what it feels like to thumb my nose at logic like that.

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