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[pallidin]

skyeagle409, on 20 January 2013 - 08:07 PM, said:

There are those who are in a habit of making things up as they go and when asked to provide evidence, they come up empty-handed.

THAT is what bugs me the most. They do not even clearly(if at all) respond to direct evidence.

[The Silver Thong]

skyeagle409, on 20 January 2013 - 08:05 PM, said:

Apparently, the official story is based on facts

Is that so, no holes in it.  If all you want is the official story then that is all you will get ufo guy.  There are holes and to say there is not well what ever, you can see the world changing as we can all since 9-11 its a mess.

[skyeagle409]

pallidin, on 20 January 2013 - 08:24 PM, said:

THAT is what bugs me the most. They do not even clearly(if at all) respond to direct evidence.

You are correct and in many cases, they simply ignore the evidence. A case in point; they have said, the 911 airliners were switched yet they cannot account for the passengers and crew of those aircraft. Apparently, they have ignored the significance of reports from American Airlines and United Airlines confirming the loss of their aircraft during the 911 attacks.

They have said that American 77 passed north of the gas station yet damaged light poles and the distribution of wreckage proved that American 77 did not pass north of the gas station and in fact, it would have been impossible for American 77 to pass north of the gas station and strike the Pentagon at the location where it was struck at the altitude and airspeed that American 77 was flying at that time.

[redhen]

The Silver Thong, on 20 January 2013 - 08:34 PM, said:

Is that so, no holes in it.

There are some things (when taken out of context) that might look suspicious.

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There are holes and to say there is not well what ever, you can see the world changing as we can all since 9-11 its a mess.

This is one of the factors that drives post-modern CT; the other being political indoctrination in schools that blames the West (esp. U.S.A.) as the source of all evil.

I agreed with your sentiment before, yes, the world seems to be going to hell in a handcart, but that doesn't mean Zionists/neo-cons/Italian facists/the Vatican/P2 etc are behind it.

Hmm, all those groups I named are conservatives; gee I wonder if commie professors in schools have a hand in advocating this warped view?

[skyeagle409]

The Silver Thong, on 20 January 2013 - 08:34 PM, said:

Is that so, no holes in it.

Apparently, there are more holes in 911 conspiracy claims than a kitchen strainer. That is why they found themselves in awkward positions whenever the laws of physics are used to prove them wrong.

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If all you want is the official story then that is all you will get ufo guy.

I don't think you understand the full scope of the picture.

I know what is wrong and what is right when it comes to 911, and that in regards to my own experience in the aerospace world, which is another reason why I have told 911 conspiracist that their claims are not based on facts nor evidence, or should I say, the way we do things in the real world of aviation.

There is so much disinformation, misinformation and outright lies flowing from those 911 conspiracy websites that it is obvious they have no idea what they are talking about.

[pallidin]

skyeagle409, on 20 January 2013 - 09:52 PM, said:

There is so much disinformation, misinformation and outright lies flowing from those 911 conspiracy websites that it is obvious they have no idea what they are talking about.

That sums it up quite nicely.

[skyeagle409]

pallidin, on 21 January 2013 - 07:21 AM, said:

That sums it up quite nicely.

I am waiting for 'Pilots for 911 Truth' to make corrections regarding false and misleading information on its website.

[Babe Ruth]

pallidin, on 21 January 2013 - 07:21 AM, said:

That sums it up quite nicely.

There is more truth and accuracy on one PAGE of most 911 websites than in the entire report issued by the Zelikow Commission.

But I do understand why many are afraid to study those pages.  It's kinda like heresy, in the eyes of some.

[skyeagle409]

Babe Ruth, on 21 January 2013 - 02:34 PM, said:

There is more truth and accuracy on one PAGE of most 911 websites than in the entire report issued by the Zelikow Commission.

"More truth and accuracy on one PAGE of most 911 websites?! How amusing!! For an example, ARINC, the ACARS experts, has trashed the claims of "Pilots for 911  Truth' regarding its comments on ACARS, and I am still waiting for 'Pilots for 911 Truth' to make corrections on other issues in regards false, misleading and inaccurate information relating to aviation matters.

Edited by skyeagle409, 21 January 2013 - 02:41 PM.

[Babe Ruth]

The testimony from the dispatcher and his supervisor regarding the ACARS information explained it all quite nicely Sky, if you would bother to read it.

And a close examination of how the system works reveals alot, if you would bother to study that material.

93 was still flying in Illinois 30 minutes after it supposedly crashed at Shanksville.  Wally Miller and his workers have told the story regarding FBI actions that corroborate that there was no Boeing at Shanksville.

But you're in denial about all that, and I understand. It's not pretty to see, but I understand why some humans deny facts.

[skyeagle409]

Babe Ruth, on 21 January 2013 - 02:46 PM, said:

The testimony from the dispatcher and his supervisor regarding the ACARS information explained it all quite nicely Sky, if you would bother to read it.

That doesn't cut it because I have already spoken with the ARINC, the ACARS experts by phone. What it is, you are not aware of how ACARS works, which is clearly evident in your message.

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93 was still flying in Illinois 30 minutes after it supposedly crashed at Shanksville.  Wally Miller and his workers have told the story regarding FBI actions that corroborate that there was no Boeing at Shanksville.

False!! Wally Miller confirmed the bodies were from United 93, so once again, you are caught issuing false stories. In addition, the ACARS experts from ARINC have trashed that claim as well. United 93 did not reply after it crashed. So once again, you are caught making up false stories again.

Edited by skyeagle409, 21 January 2013 - 02:58 PM.

[skyeagle409]

Babe Ruth, on 21 January 2013 - 02:34 PM, said:

But I do understand why many are afraid to study those pages.  It's kinda like heresy, in the eyes of some.

Like their claims that a turbine rotor, which was photographed at the Pentagon, came from an APU. How silly to make such a remark when the rotor of an APU is much smaller than the rotor you see in the photo. Goes to show that some 911 conspiracist have never seen a real APU rotor. Tell me, how are you going to fit this large engine rotor;



Into this small APU?

The rotors are not even identical, which once again, shows why it is not prudent to depend upon those 911 CT websites as references..

Edited by skyeagle409, 21 January 2013 - 03:39 PM.

[pallidin]

Babe Ruth hits yet another "foul ball"  

[Babe Ruth]

OMG, what foul ball did I hit now?

[skyeagle409]

Babe Ruth, on 21 January 2013 - 09:37 PM, said:

OMG, what foul ball did I hit now?

So many that I've lost count, however, when it comes to strikeouts, here's another when you swung and missed the ball of reality.

Babe Ruth, on 21 January 2013 - 02:46 PM, said:

93 was still flying in Illinois 30 minutes after it supposedly crashed at Shanksville.  Wally Miller and his workers have told the story regarding FBI actions that corroborate that there was no Boeing at Shanksville

Wally Miller was the person who has slammed 911 CT folks for misrepresenting his remarks.


Bodies From United 93 Recovered

http://www.liveleak....=7cb_1214953125

Edited by skyeagle409, 21 January 2013 - 09:49 PM.