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#1066    skyeagle409

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 06:14 PM

View PostStundie, on 14 March 2013 - 06:12 PM, said:

Sorry but I'm using a Skyeaglism and I'm sorry but only a metallurgist is capable of identifying the molten metal, so the person is not qualified.

That won't work! Where is your evidence that refutes what has been presented?



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Posted 14 March 2013 - 06:21 PM

View PostStundie, on 14 March 2013 - 06:12 PM, said:

And he was probably right considering that everyone else who identified it said it was steel...lol

Just like you said when you presented Mr. Robertson. Mr. Robertson later shot back and said that he had no knowledge to identify molten metal.

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 06:24 PM

View PostStundie, on 14 March 2013 - 01:43 PM, said:

Therefore your claim that the fires were not hot enough is not backed up by evidence, unless you think surface temperatures and estimates are evidence..

I have recorded documentation and infrared data to backup make statements. In addition.

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The molten metal that conspiracy theorists point to are a glowing flow coming from the south tower window and molten steel found under ground zero.

They suggest the above glow is steel which is being cut by a thermite cutter charge reaction. They show photos of a thermite reaction burning a hole downward through a metal plate. Let's forget for a moment that thermite doesn't explode so the claims of hearing explosions become meaningless. The argument that there was thermite and explosives seems to be rationalization of this dilemma. Why would they use thermite which cuts steel without announcing it, then switch to explosives? To tip people off? No theory exist to explain this but the faithful simply say "We're still working on it".

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 06:26 PM

View Postskyeagle409, on 14 March 2013 - 06:13 PM, said:

In other words, you have admitted to complete faliure to refuting what has been presented.
Again, highlighting the problems we have been talking about for a few pages, your reading comprehension skills...They are very poor.

Is your imagination now think I am admitting failure, like when you imagined I argued or implied that firefighters were metallurgists.

Or that time you could understand what the Ironworkers were saying in the post I quoted about how nice it was to eat there sandwiches with nice net steel beams as opposed to molten ones at GZ...

You know when you said this....

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Skyeaglism : What do you suppose, "not molten" means?

Stundie : Read it again....but very slowly....

A group of veteran ironworkers eating lunch while staring at the steel skeleton of a new building going up on West Third Street when one commented on ‘how much easier it was to eat a sandwich in front of steel that was strong and straight and new, not molten and mangled and laden with debris.’”<...i.e.  as in....“Ironworkers’ Job of Clearing Ground Zero Is Over, but the Trauma Lingers,”

Do you get it?? He was eating his lunch looking at the new building, when one of them commented on how much easier it was to eat a sandwich here in front of the new steel, not the molten mangled and laden with debris at GZ. Which I think would have been much harder to eat a sandwich at, hence the job of cleaning GZ is over, but the trauma lingers on that he is reflecting on.
You should be embarrassed but some people have no shame do they...lol

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 06:27 PM

View Postskyeagle409, on 14 March 2013 - 06:21 PM, said:

Just like you said when you presented Mr. Robertson. Mr. Robertson later shot back and said that he had no knowledge to identify molten metal.
Mr Robertson was on recorded saying he saw molten steel, it's not my fault he forgot what he said...lol

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 06:28 PM

View PostStundie, on 14 March 2013 - 06:26 PM, said:

Again, highlighting the problems we have been talking about for a few pages, your reading comprehension skills...They are very poor.

Still no evdence that refutes my presentation???

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 06:28 PM

View Postskyeagle409, on 14 March 2013 - 06:14 PM, said:

That won't work! Where is your evidence that refutes what has been presented?


I can't disprove something you haven't proven or established....lol

I know you think I can, but I really can't...lol

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 06:29 PM

View PostStundie, on 14 March 2013 - 06:27 PM, said:

Mr Robertson was on recorded saying he saw molten steel, it's not my fault he forgot what he said...lol

Apparently, you didn't read the rest of the story where he corrected himself, which I have posted before.

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 06:29 PM

View Postskyeagle409, on 14 March 2013 - 06:28 PM, said:

Still no evdence that refutes my presentation???
None is needed, you have not presented any yet.......lol

View Postskyeagle409, on 14 March 2013 - 06:29 PM, said:

Apparently, you didn't read the rest of the story where he corrected himself, which I have posted before.
No I read it, but he said he couldn't remember saying it, even though he is on video saying it...lol

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 06:31 PM

View PostStundie, on 14 March 2013 - 06:28 PM, said:

I can't disprove something you haven't proven or established....

I have posted temperature data which backs me up. Just goes to show that you haven't been paying any attention at all.

View PostStundie, on 14 March 2013 - 06:29 PM, said:

None is needed, you have not presented any yet.....
Still no evidence from yout??? Now, why am I not surprised.

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 06:32 PM

View PostStundie, on 14 March 2013 - 06:26 PM, said:

You should be embarrassed but some people have no shame do they...lol[/color][/size][/font][/background]

How amusing that you would say such a thing when you have failed to provide a single shred of evidence of molten steel at ground zero.

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 06:36 PM

View PostStundie, on 14 March 2013 - 06:29 PM, said:

No I read it,...l

Then, what does this have to say?

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Debunking 9/11 Conspiracy Theories

The Internet allows ignorance to blossom as it has for the 9/11 Truth movement. To the naive their arguments can seem compelling but when you actually analyze their claims with hard science and facts, they completely fall apart.

http://www.popularte...y-theories.html


We you even aware that you were duped by Steven Jones?

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 06:39 PM

View Postskyeagle409, on 14 March 2013 - 06:31 PM, said:

I have posted temperature data which backs me up.
You have posted nothing but surface temperatures and estimates.

I have posted estimates which prove you wrong..

One of the workers says the fires were at one point “2,800 degrees". _ America Rebuilds.

View Postskyeagle409, on 14 March 2013 - 06:31 PM, said:

Just goes to show that you haven't been paying any attention at all.
I have paid full attention to what you have been saying, but to be honest, I might as well have not bothered for all the sense it makes...lol

View Postskyeagle409, on 14 March 2013 - 06:31 PM, said:

Still no evidence from yout??? Now, why am I not surprised.
No evidence from me, just multiple independent eyewitnesses at GZ and they are not evidence...lol

Another classic Skyeaslism, eyewitnesses are not evidence according to your logic...lol

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 06:40 PM

View Postskyeagle409, on 14 March 2013 - 06:36 PM, said:

Then, what does this have to say?
The same crapola you have been spouting on which doesn't disproe what those at GZ said...lol

View Postskyeagle409, on 14 March 2013 - 06:36 PM, said:

We you even aware that you were duped by Steven Jones?
Were you aware that you have been duped by a tour guide called Mark Roberts and yourself??...lol

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 06:40 PM

View PostStundie, on 14 March 2013 - 06:39 PM, said:

You have posted nothing but surface temperatures and estimates.

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Table 1 Thermal Hot Spot Data
Location Temperature Area Hot Spot N Latitude W Longitude (Kelvin) % FOV sq meter A 40o 42' 47.18" 74o 00' 41.43" 1000 15 0.56 B 40o 42' 47.14" 74o 00' 43.53" 830 2 0.08 C 40o 42' 42.89" 74o 00' 48.88" 900 20 0.8 D 40o 42' 41.99" 74o 00' 46.94" 790 20 0.8 E 40o 42' 40.58" 74o 00' 50.15" 710 10 0.4 F 40o 42' 38.74" 74o 00' 46.70" 700 10 0.4 G 40o 42' 39.94" 74o 00' 45.37" 1020 1 0.04 H 40o 42' 38.60" 74o 00' 43.51" 820 2 0.08

Nothing there that indicates temperatures high enough to melt steel.

Edited by skyeagle409, 14 March 2013 - 06:41 PM.

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