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#931    skyeagle409

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 01:07 AM

View PostStundie, on 28 February 2013 - 01:05 AM, said:

Panto debunking doesn't work for me, cause I don't do panto...lol Who said thermite was used?

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I said that fire fighters were metallugists...

Now, you say that say that firefighters are metallugist. Hmmmm. Fact of the matter is, they are not.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 01:08 AM

View Postskyeagle409, on 28 February 2013 - 01:02 AM, said:

On the contrary, without temperatures needed to melt steel at ground zero, what they saw were pools of molten aluminum because temperatures reached the melting point of aluminum. With abundance of aluminum present in the WTC buildings and used in the construction of the B-767s, all it takes is common sense to understand why they saw molten aluminum and not molten steel.
You have no evidence of the temperatures under the rubble, invalidating you and your argument from the first few keystrokes, that they were not hot enough which is disproven by the fact the witnesses at GZ said they saw molten steel, not aluminium.

You were not at GZ, you have no idea of the temperatures in the rubble and no evidence to support your molten aluminium theory, its pure crazies!! lol

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 01:12 AM

View Postskyeagle409, on 28 February 2013 - 01:07 AM, said:

911 conspiracist!
And am I a 9/11 conspiracists?

View Postskyeagle409, on 28 February 2013 - 01:07 AM, said:

Now, you say that say that firefighters are metallugist. Hmmmm. Fact of the matter is, they are not.
WOW! Now you are resorting to even lower debunking that panto debunking, you've hit new street mime lows by taking a quote out of context from my last post....lol

Here is what I said..."Is this like the time you claimed I said that fire fighters were metallugists but then the reality was your head got confused and you deluded yourself that I had said or implied it, when nothing could have been further from the truth?

You have serious problems with reading comprehensions and context skills, or you are just pretending to be this dumb to keep up the debunking street mime facade?? lol

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 01:33 AM

View PostStundie, on 28 February 2013 - 01:08 AM, said:

You have no evidence of the temperatures under the rubble, ...

Evidence and data has already been submitted, but I guess you missed that too! :yes:

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You were not at GZ, you have no idea of the temperatures in the rubble and no evidence to support your molten aluminium theory, its pure crazies!! lol

The claim of molten steel without evidence of such high temperatures nor the mechanism to produce such high temperatures needed to melt steel is pure crazies. :yes: Once again, what would molten steel be doing at ground zero anyway?

Edited by skyeagle409, 28 February 2013 - 01:35 AM.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 01:36 AM

View PostStundie, on 28 February 2013 - 01:12 AM, said:

And am I a 9/11 conspiracists?

Yes!!

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 01:39 AM

View Postskyeagle409, on 28 February 2013 - 01:36 AM, said:

Yes!!
And are all claims that 9/11 conspiracts claim equal, they all agree on every single aspect on every single point of 9/11, all unified with no disagreement whatsoever?? Or are they individuals?? Like me say? lol

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 01:43 AM

View Postskyeagle409, on 28 February 2013 - 01:33 AM, said:

Evidence and data has already been submitted, but I guess you missed that too! :yes:
No, what you presented doesn't support what you claim and therefore doesn't disprove the evidence from those at GZ.

You fail from the first press of a key...but you knew that...lol

View Postskyeagle409, on 28 February 2013 - 01:33 AM, said:

The claim of molten steel without evidence of such high temperatures nor the mechanism to produce such high temperatures needed to melt steel is pure crazies. :yes: Once again, what would molten steel be doing at ground zero anyway?
So those who said they witnessed molten steel are pure crazies?? And not the person sitting behind his keyboard, thinking they are wrong and that he's knows better cause he's performed in lots of pantos isn't pure crazies? lol

WOW That is pure crazies....lol

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 01:51 AM

View PostStundie, on 28 February 2013 - 01:39 AM, said:

And are all claims that 9/11 conspiracts claim equal, they all agree on every single aspect on every single point of 9/11, all unified with no disagreement whatsoever?? Or are they individuals?? Like me say? lol

Fact of the matter is, whose side does the evidence support? Definitely not yours. :no:

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 01:53 AM

View PostStundie, on 28 February 2013 - 01:43 AM, said:

No, what you presented doesn't support what you claim and therefore doesn't disprove the evidence from those at GZ.

Tell you what. Why don't you go back and present the data collections on ground zero temperature readings I have posted and post them again for all to see.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 01:56 AM

View Postskyeagle409, on 28 February 2013 - 01:51 AM, said:

Fact of the matter is, whose side does the evidence support? Definitely not yours. :no:
Well when you consider that evidence from multiple eyewitnesses who were in a position at GZ to see molten steel/beam/girders,I think you'll find its me.

However if evidence is sitting behind a keyboard like some brand new debunking poobah, spamming the forum with pictures and videos and links which don't support your case, then yes, the evidence supports your side...lol Fact!! lol

Edited by Stundie, 28 February 2013 - 01:56 AM.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:01 AM

View PostStundie, on 28 February 2013 - 01:56 AM, said:

Well when you consider that evidence from multiple eyewitnesses who were in a position at GZ to see molten steel/beam/girders,I think you'll find its me.

Considering they are not experts to idenitfy molten metal, what they saw was molten aluminum on the steel beams. There was no mechanism for producing molten steel and temperature readings did not record temperatures high enough to melt steel, but they did record temperatures high enough to melt aluminum.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:10 AM

View Postskyeagle409, on 28 February 2013 - 01:53 AM, said:

Tell you what. Why don't you go back and present the data collections on ground zero temperature readings I have posted and post them again for all to see.
We already know that they only show the surface temperatures which doesn't prove that the temperatures were not hot enough under the rubble.

Booo!! We've seen this panto before...lol

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:12 AM

View Postskyeagle409, on 28 February 2013 - 02:01 AM, said:

Considering they are not experts to idenitfy molten metal, what they saw was molten aluminum on the steel beams.
Considering that one was an expert, a professor who studied the steel and is quite capable of identifying molten steel, they did not see aluminium. lol

View Postskyeagle409, on 28 February 2013 - 01:33 AM, said:

There was no mechanism for producing molten steel and temperature readings did not record temperatures high enough to melt steel, but they did record temperatures high enough to melt aluminum.
Even if you think there was no mechanism, there was molten steel and the fact you can't believe it is not evidence....lol

Its not even an argument, which makes me wonder why I bother with this pap called debunking....lol

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:13 AM

View PostStundie, on 28 February 2013 - 02:10 AM, said:

We already know that they only show the surface temperatures which doesn't prove that the temperatures were not hot enough under the rubble.

That doesn't work for you. Go back and present for us,  the official temperature and data collections that I have posted.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 02:17 AM

View Postskyeagle409, on 28 February 2013 - 02:13 AM, said:

That doesn't work for you. Go back and present for us,  the official temperature and data collections that I have posted.
We already know that they only show the surface temperatures  and it still doesn't prove that the temperatures were not hot enough under the rubble.

Hence you have no argument, no matter how many times you post the figures, they don't prove your claim which is the fires under the rubble were not hot enough to melt steel...lol

Your logic is bonkers!! lol

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