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#331    psyche101

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 03:49 AM

View PostHazzard, on 03 April 2013 - 12:32 PM, said:

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Psyche,...?


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LOL, peer reviewed? An abuse of the term. Every so-called peer-reviewed article has been published in their own “peer reviewed” journal (BIO-Complexity), based on “research” from their own creation science lab (Biologic Institute), and then promoted by their own “peer reviewed” vanity press operation (Discovery Institute Press).

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Here we show that the terrestrial code displays a thorough precision-type orderliness matching the criteria to be considered an informational signal.


Information signal? But where is this message? It seems they did not actually find one to support the claim. What they did find was some organisation, like we see in the periodic table of elements, which I do feel is hardly proof of intelligent design. It's just creationist claptrap peer reviewed by creationists. You have to pay to read the entire thing, so I'll only bother with the extract for the moment. If anyone wants to pay for this (Zoser? Nah, that would be reading, something akin to learning) I do not mind having a red hot crack at tearing holes right through the entire article when time permits.

I have linked the above places (I'll refrain from using an adjective associated with learning for the moment) that "peer reviewed" this article, I suggest everyone has a click and a read. It's Zoser level garbology mate. All anti Darwin and Deity driven nonsense.

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Edited by psyche101, 05 April 2013 - 03:56 AM.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 03:58 AM

View PostColonel Rhuairidh, on 03 April 2013 - 01:46 PM, said:

I tried reading that, but I'm afraid I'm not entirely sure what it's actually saying.

I am not entirely sure that the authors and reviewers are entirely sure what they are actually saying.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 07:47 AM

That would be my opinion as well,... thanks buddie. :lol:  If the WOW signal contained something like that one would think we would have heard about it. Considering the many times we have been over it.

I still await the compelling Exhibit A.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 08:01 AM

View PostHazzard, on 05 April 2013 - 07:47 AM, said:

That would be my opinion as well,... thanks buddie. :lol:  If the WOW signal contained something like that one would think we would have heard about it. Considering the many times we have been over it.

My pleasure mate :D

Even worse is their home brand creationist peer review process, and trying to pass it off as legit. ;) Sneaky buggers think they wil get the science zealots that they think exist because religious zealots exist, hopefully they are beginning to relise religion is dogma, science is not. The Homo Florensis debate proves that one just cannot make a claim where science is concerned, you have to prove you claim, even if your claim is "hitting an egg against a fry pan will break it". Words will not do, only empirical evidence will. That is the barrier creationists will never surpass because their source is but a story in a book.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 08:08 AM



I still await the compelling Exhibit A.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 08:19 AM

Oh good, this has turned into another dawkins lovefest.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 08:26 AM

View PostColonel Rhuairidh, on 05 April 2013 - 08:19 AM, said:

Oh good, this has turned into another dawkins lovefest.

Would you rather hear what guys that believes the world is less than 10,000 years old has to say about it?

Part from the comedy aspect of it all I mean.

Edited by Hazzard, 05 April 2013 - 08:28 AM.

I still await the compelling Exhibit A.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 08:32 AM

View Postpsyche101, on 05 April 2013 - 03:49 AM, said:

LOL, peer reviewed? An abuse of the term. Every so-called peer-reviewed article has been published in their own “peer reviewed” journal (BIO-Complexity), based on “research” from their own creation science lab (Biologic Institute), and then promoted by their own “peer reviewed” vanity press operation (Discovery Institute Press).

hiya matey... i do not doubt for a moment that garbage does indeed pass peer review at times depending on the circumstances... anyhow, i hadn't researched that link when i posted it here and seeing your comment, kinda got me curious... here's the full paper (author's version) http://arxiv.org/ftp...3/1303.6739.pdf it's basically from kazakhstan, it was published in icarus... hmmm... where did you come across that info? appreciated mate :tu:


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Posted 05 April 2013 - 01:07 PM

View PostHazzard, on 05 April 2013 - 08:26 AM, said:

Part from the comedy aspect of it all I mean.

Are there other sides to this idiotic idea as well??

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 01:38 PM

@psyche.. i googled about that article and 'bio-complexity' and came across this... http://sensuouscurmu...gns-wow-signal/ which i believe is the source of the info which you mentioned... but that write-up is regarding the following article... http://www.evolution...l_of069941.html so, just to clarify i don't think that the actual authors of the published work from kazakhstan have any affiliation to the discovery institute... anyway, i would like to see what other scientists have got to say on all this.... here is an interesting comment about the non-randomness... http://www.reddit.co...l_genetic_code/ but would the reviewers from icarus miss that? idk... cheers

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 10:21 PM

View PostDBunker, on 05 April 2013 - 01:07 PM, said:

Are there other sides to this idiotic idea as well??

Well, there can also be a dangerous side to it. If we were to teach this kind of nonsense to our kids, we might as well teach them astrology, numerology and alchemy.

I still await the compelling Exhibit A.

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 04:06 AM

SO I guess a Frying pan full of Pan-spermia taught in our schools will be out of the question? Its sad we only Look for the Answers that are controled by the Greed machine.

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 07:20 AM

View PostHazzard, on 05 April 2013 - 10:21 PM, said:

Well, there can also be a dangerous side to it. If we were to teach this kind of nonsense to our kids, we might as well teach them astrology, numerology and alchemy.
i don't know, don't forget that there was a very fine line between "legitimate" science and all those things that Rational people now consign to the category of "bunkum". How fine a line there was between alchemists & numerololoogists and "legitimate" scientists in people like Paracelsus, John Dee, Francis Bacon and so on.Not to mention the Islamic alcehmists during the "dark Ages" who more or less kept learning & science going after the Roman empire collapsed. There was essentially no distinction drawn between Astrology and Astronomy until the Enlighthenment. I wonder how many great scientific discoveries would never have been made, or never have been taken seriously, if there'd always been these rigid division between Cranks & Loons and Legitimate Science.

Edited by Colonel Rhuairidh, 06 April 2013 - 07:21 AM.

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 04:47 PM

But the line must be drawn somewhere...... Creationism is absolutely on the other side of it.

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 07:22 PM

View PostDBunker, on 06 April 2013 - 04:47 PM, said:

But the line must be drawn somewhere...... Creationism is absolutely on the other side of it.
THe Sooner we rid this world of Creationism the quicker we can evolve into beings of logic,and caring ,Peaceful evolution is even possible Albeit a very unlikely as shown by us so far ! :tu:

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