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#76    onereaderone

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:46 PM

the  answer  to   monopoly   is  unions ,  the  answer  to  nearly  every  problem  is  freedom ...   and  the  heart  of  freedom  is  capitalism ...

the  root  of  capital  is   ....   the  cap  stone  of  a pillar ...   its  where  you  put  a  statue ...

academics  want  to  rewrite  the  word...  but  in  the  coffee  houses  of  veinna  ,  where  communism  was  invented...  capitalism   was    the  place  where  a statue  was  placed....   and  greatness  was  recognised....    redefine  the  word   so  no  one  understands  it  ....  if  thats  the  best  you  can  manage


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Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:55 PM

ture  capitalism  has   nothing  at  all  to  do  with  money....   a  morgan  horse   wants  to  run  ,  it  does  not  care  if  it  gets  paid  to  do  so...   it  wants  pay  so  it  can  eat...  but  it  would  run  any  way...

fish  swim  ,  money  is  not  the  reason...  
people  want  to  be  good  at  what  they  do...   people   seek  to  be  great  at  what  ever  they  do....

to  find  your  self  ,  you  must  lose  your  self  in  the  service  of  others ....

money  is   just  a way  clever  people  in  goverment  reduce  a  persons  life  in to  a form  that  can  be  tax'd.....

the  taxing  agency  is  inscribed   on  the  money   of  that   state  which  enforces   the  tax


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Posted 23 January 2013 - 04:04 PM

wealth  is  not  understood   by  the  poor people.    true  wealth  is in  the  controll  over  people...
controll  is  happyness...  happyness  is  controll...   they  are  nearly  the  same  thing...

  money  is  not  controll ,  money  can  only  by   the  people  who  will  enforce   good  and  bad  laws...
good  people  will  obey  good  law  and  ignore  bad  law...
bad  people  will  ignore  good  and  bad  laws .
so   the  only  people  we  care  about  are  good  people ,  and  the  effect  money  has  on  good  people .

money  will  by  people  who  enforce   good  and  bad  laws.
so
the  more  money  goverment  has....   the  more  you  make  good  people  like  the  bad...or  into  bad  people.


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Posted 23 January 2013 - 04:25 PM

View Postonereaderone, on 23 January 2013 - 03:35 PM, said:

the  perfect  answer  to  corprate  giant  companys  is   unions...
The perfect answer to mega corporations or any business that goes amok is the well informed consumer in a Capitalist system.  By hitting the bottom line, the people can effect change.  But the system must also be free from Socialistic ideology.

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currently  unions  are  so  politicaly  correct   ,  they  have  lost  their  teeth ...  and  are  run  by  whimps  and   milk  drinking   school  girls ....
That's the problem with Unions.  They were never meant to be static, permanent institutions.  But now that they are, do more harm to the system than they help.  They are the reason that America has lost her manufacturing base.  And a nation cannot stay strong without a large manufacturing base.  Between salary and benefits, a common worker on the assembly line is not worth $75+ an hour.

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you  will  know  the  men  have  taken  off  their  dress  and  have   a  real  voice  when  they  take   on   microsoft   and  unionize   software  programmers .
Gates doesn't need to stay in Seattle.  He's welcome to come back to Albuquerque.  There's a lot of talent here.  But he doesn't even need to stay in this country.  He could just move everything to India.  And pay for software engineers at a lot less.  Or, he could just shutdown period and live happily ever after.  He's got plenty of money; he doesn't need to make more.  He could hold onto all the patents and copyrights and the world will have to start using something else.  That will eventually happen anyway.

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untill   school teachers  bankrupt   all  the  school  systems   and  distroy  public  schools  will  our  goverment   rage  out  of  control in  spending   and  social  welfare...

national  teachers  assoc .   must  brake  the  back  of  public  school systems  befor   learning   can  once  again  become  valuable ....
Our school system is already broken.  Being inundated with Socialist indoctrination.  The school system needs another national goal like NASA in the 60s established to unleash the power of the Capitalist system, which will increase the need in the sciences and math, etc.  Which will in turn drive the school system for the benefit of all.  Establishing the goal is the only involvement of the government or unions that is needed.

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that  is  the  reason  for  the  school  shooting.... the  crazys  medicated  morons   feel  the  blood  in  the  water   and  are  seeking  out  the   gun free (fire)  zones ....  because  it  is  the  place  where  the   goverment  power  is ...   in  the public  scxhools
The reason for school shootings vary.  One is because it is an easy target.  Another reason is because that is where the shooter is.  The fact that shooters usually originate within the school system indicates how broken a Socialist system really is.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 04:27 PM

It is a flawed position to say that society functions purely on competition. There are competitive elements to society of course.
However there are strong altruistic elements to society which means that many of the best aspects of society are based upon cooperation to achieve a common good. Family, community and civil society are examples.

Even that b****** child of evolutionary thinking - social anthropology - attributes this to the fact that a strong and supportive social group generally means that all members are better off regardless of status, and so there is an evolutionary advantage to cooperation on all levels.


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Posted 23 January 2013 - 04:43 PM

View Postjugoso, on 23 January 2013 - 03:36 PM, said:

Trickledown economics!! :unsure2:
America has built its position off of the exploitation of individuals and countries since its inception
As have every nation before it from the beginning of history.  This is how civilization advances.  Yes, you can point to the abuses in Egypt, Rome, the Colonial Powers.  But I think the benefits that emerged are far more pertinent.  Our Constitution came into being after thousands of years of Socialism and slavery.  Or you can read that as after all the thousands of years of exploitation of the people, we have a system that puts that power of exploitation into the hands of the people and civilization marches on.  We evolve from Socialistic like governments into a Constitutional Republic where the Invisible Hand directs everyone involved in benefiting the society as a whole.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 05:06 PM

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As have every nation before it from the beginning of history.  This is how civilization advances.  Yes, you can point to the abuses in Egypt, Rome, the Colonial Powers.  But I think the benefits that emerged are far more pertinent.  Our Constitution came into being after thousands of years of Socialism and slavery.  Or you can read that as after all the thousands of years of exploitation of the people, we have a system that puts that power of exploitation into the hands of the people and civilization marches on.  We evolve from Socialistic like governments into a Constitutional Republic where the Invisible Hand directs everyone involved in benefiting the society as a whole.
You really have bee in your bonnet about socialism - and not a ******* clue what it actually is. Tragic.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 05:42 PM

View Postonereaderone, on 23 January 2013 - 03:55 PM, said:

ture  capitalism  has   nothing  at  all  to  do  with  money....   a  morgan  horse   wants  to  run  ,  it  does  not  care  if  it  gets  paid  to  do  so...   it  wants  pay  so  it  can  eat...  but  it  would  run  any  way...
I beg your pardon…  A horse will run because it can but if that horse wants to support his family, he will get paid for it.

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fish  swim  ,  money  is  not  the  reason...  
people  want  to  be  good  at  what  they  do...   people   seek  to  be  great  at  what  ever  they  do....
People want to be good at what they do because they can command more money.

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to  find  your  self  ,  you  must  lose  your  self  in  the  service  of  others ....
That is completely wrong and I will show why in an upcoming reply to another poster later today when I get to it.

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money  is   just  a way  clever  people  in  goverment  reduce  a  persons  life  in to  a form  that  can  be  tax'd.....
Well, that is indeed an outcome but money was an easier way to represent a person's time and effort so that we would not be tied down to bartering.  This way, merchants could travel to distant lands to buy and sell without being dependent on barter and it had a side effect of sharing culture.

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the  taxing  agency  is  inscribed   on  the  money   of  that   state  which  enforces   the  tax
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 05:45 PM

View PostBr Cornelius, on 23 January 2013 - 05:06 PM, said:

You really have bee in your bonnet about socialism - and not a ******* clue what it actually is. Tragic.

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Yes, I do know what Socialism is.  I've explained it to you and others many times.  Because you refuse to understand doesn't make it my problem.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 05:52 PM

"Then you will see the rise of the double standard – the men who live by force, yet count on those who live by trade to create the value of their looted money – the men who are the hitchhikers of virtue. In a moral society, these are the criminals, and the statutes are written to protect you against them. But when a society establishes criminals-by-right and looters-by-law – men who use force to seize the wealth of disarmed victims – then money becomes its creators' avenger. Such looters believe it safe to rob defenseless men, once they've passed a law to disarm them. But their loot becomes the magnet for other looters, who get it from them as they got it. Then the race goes, not to the ablest at production, but to those most ruthless at brutality. When force is the standard, the murderer wins over the pickpocket. And then that society vanishes, in a spread of ruins and slaughter"

Can anyone guess where this quote is from?


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Posted 23 January 2013 - 06:10 PM

View PostRavenHawk, on 23 January 2013 - 05:45 PM, said:

Yes, I do know what Socialism is.  I've explained it to you and others many times.  Because you refuse to understand doesn't make it my problem.
So you equate the feudal societies (Egypt) of history with socialism - wrong !!!
If you can't get the basics right then shut the **** up or you just look stupid.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 06:24 PM

everything is a cult


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Posted 23 January 2013 - 06:28 PM

View PostEinsteinium, on 23 January 2013 - 05:52 PM, said:

"Then you will see the rise of the double standard – the men who live by force, yet count on those who live by trade to create the value of their looted money – the men who are the hitchhikers of virtue. In a moral society, these are the criminals, and the statutes are written to protect you against them. But when a society establishes criminals-by-right and looters-by-law – men who use force to seize the wealth of disarmed victims – then money becomes its creators' avenger. Such looters believe it safe to rob defenseless men, once they've passed a law to disarm them. But their loot becomes the magnet for other looters, who get it from them as they got it. Then the race goes, not to the ablest at production, but to those most ruthless at brutality. When force is the standard, the murderer wins over the pickpocket. And then that society vanishes, in a spread of ruins and slaughter"

Can anyone guess where this quote is from?
Great quote.  Easy Answer…but I want to see the other answers first.  I'll just say that it's from a recent movie although I haven't seen the movie so it may not actually be in the movie, but it is in the book the movie is inspired from.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 06:33 PM

View PostBr Cornelius, on 23 January 2013 - 06:10 PM, said:

So you equate the feudal societies (Egypt) of history with socialism - wrong !!!
If you can't get the basics right then shut the **** up or you just look stupid.

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I'm not talking basics, I'm talking bottom line.  I don't know how many times I need to tell you that the *differences* here is not what is important but the one single similarity.  What weakness do the Pharaohs of Ancient Egypt and the leaders of Europe's Socialist Democracies share?  You just don't get it.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 06:38 PM

Any unquestioned economic model and any unquestioned social model is a cult. That includes capitalism.

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