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#16    Sakari

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 12:14 AM

View PostCRYSiiSx2, on 24 January 2013 - 07:01 PM, said:

When I have kids, I want them to attend this school.  I just feel bad for the guy who has to take down a kid because his parents obviously didn't spend enough time teaching him right from wrong.



You can not blame the parents.....That is just stupid / ignorant....Both

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 12:19 AM

Why a rifle? I'd think a MP5 style compact gun would suit a school much better and give the police better mobility than a rifle. This almost seems as an insurance plan rather than security to be honest.
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 12:21 AM

I am sure they all ready carry hand guns. The assault rifles are for emergencies.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 12:31 AM

Wow. I can understand armed security, but wow. That's a lot of gun.  It does suck that we feel the need to protect our children so heavily.. Sucks they need such protection.
Then again, 20 years ago when I was in high school, I thought it sucked that weapons were such a problem that metal detectors at the main entrances were required. Though at that time other weapons were as much of a problem as guns.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a supporter of guarding arms in school. From police to hired security, and yes, handguns for staff that volunteers and goes through training. I'm even somewhat ok with shotgun lockers in staff only areas with authorized staff only having access. But dang, that sucks that such obvious heavy duty firearm action in carry around is required. Crap, most of the cops I've known of that had big guns strapped in their car carried some sort of shotgun rather than that kind of weapon.
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 12:39 AM

View PostSakari, on 25 January 2013 - 12:14 AM, said:

You can not blame the parents.....That is just stupid / ignorant....Both

Well, you're wrong.  Because I can.  Instead of letting kids surf the internet all day (look what's on the internet...) take some time and go do things with them.  Kids need attention, and they will do something to get it.
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 12:51 AM

View PostCRYSiiSx2, on 25 January 2013 - 12:39 AM, said:

Well, you're wrong.  Because I can.  Instead of letting kids surf the internet all day (look what's on the internet...) take some time and go do things with them.  Kids need attention, and they will do something to get it.

You can blame them all you want, but you are wrong. Not going to change the topic, so this will be my only ( of many ) examples.

I have a daughter and a son....

Both raised in the same house, same rules, same everything.

Daughter, straight A student, and got a scholorship.

Son, turned to drugs at 14, spent entire time in prison from 18 to 22.....14 to 18 in Juvenille Prison.....( he is now doing great though )

My son tells me all the time he wished he had listened to me, and all ways apologizes....I tell him to stop.

Just one example of many.

Blaming the parents is stupid, and wrong. How many waking hours a week are parents with their kids?......Kids are influenced, and spend more time with other people, not their parents.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 01:29 AM

I understand Sakari, children spend more time with peers than parents. But I feel parents should influence children to avoid negative criminal things and encourage them to study and work hard, condone good behavior over the bad to instruct children in becoming good citizens in society. Schools should discourage violence on campuses and remind students on formation of criminal gangs are not the best way to be around people.
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 01:36 AM

I just had one of those "Boy, do I feel old" moments.

The only guards I remember at school were crossing guards. Also, a friend of mine (same age) grew up in a tiny rural school who tells me that he had to give the principal his .22 every morning and got it back after school so he could hunt grouse and not waste the walk, to and from school.

Maybe those were the 'good old days'?

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 03:13 PM

View PostLikely Guy, on 25 January 2013 - 01:36 AM, said:

I just had one of those "Boy, do I feel old" moments.

The only guards I remember at school were crossing guards. Also, a friend of mine (same age) grew up in a tiny rural school who tells me that he had to give the principal his .22 every morning and got it back after school so he could hunt grouse and not waste the walk, to and from school.

Maybe those were the 'good old days'?

/now get off my lawn!

Yes, those were the good old days.  I grew up in fairly rural Florida, and when I went to high school in the 60's several kids had rifle racks and rifles in their pickup trucks.  We never once had a shooting at school.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 06:33 PM

View PostCRYSiiSx2, on 24 January 2013 - 07:01 PM, said:

When I have kids, I want them to attend this school.  I just feel bad for the guy who has to take down a kid because his parents obviously didn't spend enough time teaching him right from wrong.
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