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#1    danbell06

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 10:14 PM


Look faked to me. :td:

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 11:20 PM

The stride does seem to be a little short on those and they do have that......."set-there-on-purpose" look to them. Just a little too sharp and clear.


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Posted 24 January 2013 - 11:27 PM

The toes are too pronounced. The distance from one track to another is ridiculously short, and at 20 seconds on the video there side by side as if the subject has jumped and landed on both feet.
Now I've never seen a bigfoot track in person but I know if I went and stood outside in the snow or mud It certainly wouldn't have as much definition as the toes, that are shown on this film.

Screams Hoax to me. Which in turn makes me re-think my views on the PGF. :unsure2:


The tracks are quite reminiscent of a fellow called Ray Wallace.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 11:51 PM

I am not certain these are from the P/G site.  The tracks do not appear to match the casts made from the P/G site, and in fact look more like the fakes reportedly made by Ray Wallace.  The construction site that his brother owned/supervised, was on or near a long dirt road if I recall.

Also the same video appeared on Cryptomundo today, and the poster said it mysterious arrived by email, and said to be of John Green's investigation near Bluff Creek.

Both the Wallace construction site and the P/G site where at/near Bluff Creek, so just by the little info given so far, one cannot say which site it is of, though my guess is the Wallace.

Edited by Insanity, 24 January 2013 - 11:58 PM.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 12:17 AM

View PostInsanity, on 24 January 2013 - 11:51 PM, said:

I am not certain these are from the P/G site.  The tracks do not appear to match the casts made from the P/G site, and in fact look more like the fakes reportedly made by Ray Wallace.  The construction site that his brother owned/supervised, was on or near a long dirt road if I recall.

Also the same video appeared on Cryptomundo today, and the poster said it mysterious arrived by email, and said to be of John Green's investigation near Bluff Creek.

Both the Wallace construction site and the P/G site where at/near Bluff Creek, so just by the little info given so far, one cannot say which site it is of, though my guess is the Wallace.

You've put it into perspective now. I thought the prints were very Wallace-esque. The fact that it has been put on another site allegedly mysteriously by email speaks volumes about the credibility of it.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 12:19 AM

At around 1:30 there 's a shot of a line of footprints that are 'way too aligned: go look at human tracks in the snow and you'll see the left and right footprints are staggered, not in a single line.


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Posted 25 January 2013 - 12:29 AM

View Postdanbell06, on 25 January 2013 - 12:17 AM, said:

You've put it into perspective now. I thought the prints were very Wallace-esque. The fact that it has been put on another site allegedly mysteriously by email speaks volumes about the credibility of it.

I am not saying it is not an authentic film of John Green doing an investigation, I think that perhaps the stated site is incorrect.  The closeup of the tracks early in the film do look quite similar to those reportedly made by Ray Wallace, even the squarish toes and ball of the foot look darn close, at least from memory.

The video post at CM was titled, "The Missing P/G Film Footage", and the caption reads "This video mysteriously showed up in my email one day. It features John Green’s investigation of an area near Bluff Creek."  I think perhaps the poster may have assumed Bluff Creek meant the P/G site.

Just my thoughts.  I am sure someone with images at their fingertips will be able to point the same out if is such.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 01:08 AM

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Got this off Jeffrey Meldrum's Facebook page. I think it's rather interesting.


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Posted 25 January 2013 - 01:10 AM

Just seen the same too it fact.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 01:18 AM

There is something else to consider, it you'd like. If this is a guy in a costume then the large feet would most likely not have had any real attention paid to it. Looking at the photo, those feet are believable......I mean, just looking at them......which is all we can really do. Then when you look at the footprint cast, you don't see a smaller foot print within a larger print, it's pretty uniform. I don't know if the film is real or faked, seems every time I look at it I find something new to make me wonder in both directions.

Then too, why put boobs on it in the sixties? See what I'm saying? It just makes me wonder.


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Posted 25 January 2013 - 01:25 AM

That cast is definately from that foot. Big-foot.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 01:27 AM

It certainly look like it did, but then it can be deceiving.....pictures all blurry and at a slight angle, but I have to agree it looks interesting.


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Posted 25 January 2013 - 01:41 AM

I wonder if an overlay of foot and cast would show a match.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 01:52 AM

What really strikes me as interesting is the second toe over from the big toe. Dimple underneath, the toe is slightly out of whack with the others and it seems to match up in the cast.


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Posted 25 January 2013 - 01:55 AM

From the hoax perspective: Why would you create an impression that differs from the foot of the costume?

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