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Posted 26 January 2013 - 07:43 AM

The Rise of Superbugs Called 'Apocalyptic Scenario'

A prominent British health official has declared the rise of antibiotic-resistant superbugs so grave a threat that the world is now facing an "apocalyptic scenario" in which people die of routine infections.

Dame Sally Davies, the U.K.'s chief medical officer (a role equivalent to the U.S. surgeon general), warned Parliament that contagious antibiotic-resistant disease is an imminent crisis and should be included on the government's official register of possible national emergencies, right next to terrorist attacks and natural disasters, according to the Guardian.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 08:13 AM

Bad news when one appears that there is no defense against.  In our modern age we have nearly forgotten the way death used to accompany the most (by our standards) trivial incidents of injury.  A scratch on the leg that gets dirty, stepping on a nail....  I used to do MRI for a living and I'll never forget one patient whose knee I was to examine.  The doc thought he had an infection in the bone.  He was in his 30's and had a red scar running from his ankle to his groin.  This kind of scar is common for a cardiac bypass patient but he hadn't had heart surgery.  He had a bug bite on his leg and scratched it with dirty fingernails.  He acquired MRSA and had been in hospital off and on for months.  Awful case.  Bug bite, scratched it without even thinking.... had it not been for the drug armory available he'd have already been dead.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 08:25 AM

View Postand then, on 26 January 2013 - 08:13 AM, said:

Bad news when one appears that there is no defense against.  In our modern age we have nearly forgotten the way death used to accompany the most (by our standards) trivial incidents of injury.  A scratch on the leg that gets dirty, stepping on a nail....  I used to do MRI for a living and I'll never forget one patient whose knee I was to examine.  The doc thought he had an infection in the bone.  He was in his 30's and had a red scar running from his ankle to his groin.  This kind of scar is common for a cardiac bypass patient but he hadn't had heart surgery.  He had a bug bite on his leg and scratched it with dirty fingernails.  He acquired MRSA and had been in hospital off and on for months.  Awful case.  Bug bite, scratched it without even thinking.... had it not been for the drug armory available he'd have already been dead.

ooh - thats scary... Im keeping my sanitizing gel ever closer! Ive had cellulitis from a fight, hit a guy once, and his teeth cut my knuckles wide open.... 7 days in hospital...hand puffed up like  you wouldn't believe..the .docs say a mans mouth is more dirty than a dogs..

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 08:59 AM

View Postand then, on 26 January 2013 - 08:13 AM, said:

Bad news when one appears that there is no defense against.  In our modern age we have nearly forgotten the way death used to accompany the most (by our standards) trivial incidents of injury.  A scratch on the leg that gets dirty, stepping on a nail....  I used to do MRI for a living and I'll never forget one patient whose knee I was to examine.  The doc thought he had an infection in the bone.  He was in his 30's and had a red scar running from his ankle to his groin.  This kind of scar is common for a cardiac bypass patient but he hadn't had heart surgery.  He had a bug bite on his leg and scratched it with dirty fingernails.  He acquired MRSA and had been in hospital off and on for months.  Awful case.  Bug bite, scratched it without even thinking.... had it not been for the drug armory available he'd have already been dead.

I had a pimple on my philtrum once that turned nasty with MRSA. Had to have multiple surgeries on it. My mother got bite by a brown recluse spider on her nose once and developed MRSA as well. After surgery you could see her skull and eye socket through the hole. Now there's no scar on her nose, which is absolutely amazing!! However, I have a scar on my philtrum.

From what my doctor said, MRSA is a fairly common bacteria living in most people's noses.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 09:10 AM

I got an infection on my scalp once from a barber accidentally cutting a mole.  He dabbed it with alcohol but it got infected anyway.

After a few weeks of antibiotics, it was cured; my doctor told me that if I had had this infection ten years earlier I would have died.


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Posted 26 January 2013 - 10:41 AM

The super bugs are our own fault. They say it because people never finished the antibiotics that were given to them to kill the bugs. The bugs just stayed dormemt building resistances to the antibotics creating  super bugs :)Now we have find new antibotics that may worked. I know I`m guilty  as most people many times I thought well I feel better and never finish the pills :) BTW any one ready for the new strain of the norvirus, diarrhea and vomiting for week:( had it the last two years about this time, no fun:(


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Posted 26 January 2013 - 10:45 AM

Superbugs are also caused by overusing common antibiotics destroying our natural bacteria of which we have much more of then bad bacteria allowing the more resistant strains to thrive in a less competitive environment.


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Posted 26 January 2013 - 11:20 AM

View PostAsteroidX, on 26 January 2013 - 10:45 AM, said:

Superbugs are also caused by overusing common antibiotics destroying our natural bacteria of which we have much more of then bad bacteria allowing the more resistant strains to thrive in a less competitive environment.
Yes of course, but we have to understand that with any use of antibiotics at all organisms will evolve.


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Posted 26 January 2013 - 11:33 AM

They keep saying we all have had too many antibiotics to fight off infections,and yet ,I don't know anyone who hasn't gotten better if they tale a proper course of antibiotics .
Just who is dying from these alleged super bugs ?

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 12:08 PM

View PostAsteroidX, on 26 January 2013 - 10:45 AM, said:

Superbugs are also caused by overusing common antibiotics destroying our natural bacteria of which we have much more of then bad bacteria allowing the more resistant strains to thrive in a less competitive environment.

I agree the overuse to.The way my old Doc explained it, We Doc s  can`t cure any disease, only infections. We can only tell you how you may prevent a disease and when you get one try to control it .However now we can no longer cure the infections, because the bugs are finding resistences, just try to find new atibioctics that might worked.


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Posted 26 January 2013 - 01:44 PM

I agree that the over-use of antibiotics will come back to bite us in a big way. We will have to get used to treatments from the pre-antibiotic era, and to accept that some infectuous diseases can not be cured.

Pretty horrifying, but that is the predictable result of what mankind has been doing.


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Posted 26 January 2013 - 01:46 PM

View PostSimbi Laveau, on 26 January 2013 - 11:33 AM, said:

They keep saying we all have had too many antibiotics to fight off infections,and yet ,I don't know anyone who hasn't gotten better if they tale a proper course of antibiotics .
Just who is dying from these alleged super bugs ?

If you do some research, you will find documented cases. Luckily few so far, but expect that number to rise dramatically from now on.
The pharma industry can not develop new antibiotics as fast as the bugs adapt to them.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 04:14 PM

Only threat here is the further study and engineering of h5n1... and that scares the hell out of me..

And bare in mind that usage of antibiotics in daily or frequment periods will make human system resistant to those too.

Edit: For update recent news suggest that study will take effect in Netherlands which is even more scary, because face it in US they are abit paranoid over their security and because of that they actually have super security and it would make me feel much better if study would go on in some of their bases. No offense to anyone from Netherlands but i doubt the efficiency of security there.

I'm just afraid that some highly sponsored group of highly trained people or mercenaries would take that "Hell" with ease.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 05:07 PM

basically we need a new strategy other then antibotics.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 07:04 PM

We actually need a superbug.

The Earth's population is sky rocketing and we won't be able to cope much longer.





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