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Posted 01 February 2013 - 10:53 PM

View Postfreetoroam, on 31 January 2013 - 01:35 PM, said:


Too true, here is a prime example of people acting like animals and there was not even a fire!! Whether it was over crowded or not, the crowd stampeded and everyone was in it for themselves. I daren`t not even thing how many lives could have been lost if a fire had broken out here.
http://www.bbc.co.uk...nshire-15377833
Where I used to work me and my colleagues were always doing fire drill routines.
They were always drumming into us how important it was to walk to the nearest fire exit in a neat and orderly fashion.
They also emphasised that any kind of clutter shouldn't be blocking them either and all valuables should be left behind regardless.
When we were undergoing those fire drills we were told to stand in this farmers field to account for any missing people.
Most of our health and safety inductions were based around this and lifting techniques.
Tbh all this preparation counts for nothing when it comes to the real thing.
There's no way you can keep a cool head in a crisis like this unless your a professional.
So alas your still going to get blind panic and every man for himself.
It might sound like a cliche but it's true and something I can't see being rectified.



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Posted 01 February 2013 - 11:20 PM

View PostMedium Brown, on 01 February 2013 - 10:53 PM, said:

Where I used to work me and my colleagues were always doing fire drill routines.
They were always drumming into us how important it was to walk to the nearest fire exit in a neat and orderly fashion.
They also emphasised that any kind of clutter shouldn't be blocking them either and all valuables should be left behind regardless.
When we were undergoing those fire drills we were told to stand in this farmers field to account for any missing people.
Most of our health and safety inductions were based around this and lifting techniques.
Tbh all this preparation counts for nothing when it comes to the real thing.
There's no way you can keep a cool head in a crisis like this unless your a professional.
So alas your still going to get blind panic and every man for himself.
It might sound like a cliche but it's true and something I can't see being rectified.
True, all the training in the world will not stop the mad rush of blind panic from the crowd. Unless there are well lit signs and enough staff to guide people to the exits, in places like nightclubs which are generally underground and very large spaces, its always going to be a difficult situation when the place is packed out.

In an ideal World a law would be passed were NO guns were allowed and all those out there destroyed, trouble is the law makers are not going to take a risk of trying to pass that without making sure they are armed first.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 07:10 PM

What about this piece of PC nonsense to beat a hasty retreat from a fire.

In my IT publishing class one of the rules is not to wrap your coat around the back of your chair.
So you either wear it or hang it up on the hooks provided.
They feel that in her infinite wisdom that when your evacuating your coat will get tangled up in the wheels and prevent your escape.
That's absolute poppycock because it only takes a second to untangle it from the back.
Besides you can hold it in your hands while you plan your exit in a neat and orderly fashion.
Even my tutor openly criticised the decision.

However it dosn't really apply to nightclubs what with the cloakrooms and besides people do everything apart from sitting.
But it's worth mentioning to highlight how fire health and safety can swing the other way.





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