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Tenessee "teachers to inform on gay students"


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#46    keninsc

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 06:01 AM

That or they're in denial about their sexual feelings. I recall, back in the eighties or early nineties someone did a study where they took guys who'd been convicted of "fag bashing" and tied a sensor onto their hoo-hoos and then showed them porn. The hoo-hoo sensor detected when "Mr. Happy" reacted to the porn being shown. All the guys had a positive reaction to gay porn, which created and revulsion within then and as a result of their own revulsion to themselves led them to take it out on open gays.

Hey, back about ten years ago there was a Senator who was a huge opponent of gay legislation who got caught doing the toe tapping in an airport men's room. He was gay and his public reactions were so strongly anti-gay in order to "cover" himself. Humans are a strange species at times, especially when you consider that when you plot us on a Bell Curve you discover that there are relatively few of us who are 100% gay or 100% straight. The vast majority of us fall somewhere in between. Now that doesn't mean that just because you have thought about gay sex you'll jump the fence and give it a go any more than it means a gay person might jump the same fence in the opposite direction and give the straight thing a try. Although, I have known of gays and lesbians who do that very thing.

The only thing any of this means is human sexuality is way more complex than being one way or the other. I have a friend who went to see a shrink because he found that when he was having sex with his wife, he was fantasizing about having sex with a man. When he told me about it he said he'd never had sex......that is real sex with a man and didn't really want to, but he still had those fantasies and thoughts and it bothered him. I recall my only serious thought on it was, "Wow, if I was married to your wife, I seriously doubt I'd be thinking of a man while getting it on with her." However, the mind goes where it goes and we like what we like. Why?

My only thought or theory is that something happens in vetro when we are forming to our chemistry or our mental pathways and we take on certain characteristics. Same sort of thing would explain pedophilia, Sadomasochism, a desire to be tortured or getting pleasure from pain and any number of what we would normally call deviant sexual behaviors. Thing is, there is nothing that can be dome to "fix" something like this. If you're born gay, then you either need to embrace it or live as a straight person and I think that before too long you'll start manifesting some other personality disorder brought on by suppressing that part of yourself.

I could go on for days on the subject, but I've pretty much said what I think I wanted to say.....and then some. *sides soap box back under the bed*


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Posted 01 February 2013 - 06:02 AM

View Postkeninsc, on 01 February 2013 - 04:16 AM, said:

Sadly, the people who put that law forward most likely felt they were completely doing the right thing. To them, they probably thought they were correcting a problem.

What's that? Preventing the spread of 'gay cooties?' Go back to kindergarten.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 06:05 AM

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 12:36 PM

View Postkeninsc, on 01 February 2013 - 04:16 AM, said:

Sadly, the people who put that law forward most likely felt they were completely doing the right thing. To them, they probably thought they were correcting a problem.
I agree.   Probably a case of not expanding and researching all that it will affect.  
Perhaps there was a case where a gay teen killed himself and the parents found out after his death.    They were not given the opportunity to help him/her.    Just saying that it could be a scenerio to back this proposed law.   However, if you throw the negatives of the proposed law into the mix, then it doesn't seem like a great idea.


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Posted 01 February 2013 - 07:18 PM

And reporting this is going to do what now?..smh

Let kids be kids and let them deal with their personal life on their own,if they really need somebody to know parents would be first,not teachers this might cause more problems at school for them,who knows. This is just a bad idea in my opinion.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 07:36 PM

View Postkeninsc, on 01 February 2013 - 06:05 AM, said:

Not all the world is enlightened, however everyone thinks they are.

You've been visiting the UFO section, I see.

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 05:54 AM

No, but I do have gay and lesbian friends whom have confided in me. The sad truth is what I see IS identified, it's the age old problem of not being able to accept a different way of life or different lifestyle. Hell, gay people, bi people, switch hitters and such are all around us. I dare say that some of us here are gay or bi or maybe we did some experimenting because we had some sexual confusion. Mind you, there is nothing wrong with that, sometimes it takes time to figure this **** out. I was lucky as hell and didn't even realize it at the time. I was straight, never had any confusion about being straight...........and yet I have always been a bit curious about the whole gay thing. And no, I am not afraid to say so. That doesn't mean I jumped the fence, but I have always had a bit of a curiosity about it.

So no emails from any guys here asking me out, the answer is, "No! You're not my type."


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Posted 02 February 2013 - 06:21 AM

View PostK_Bonita, on 01 February 2013 - 07:18 PM, said:

And reporting this is going to do what now?..smh

Let kids be kids and let them deal with their personal life on their own,if they really need somebody to know parents would be first,not teachers this might cause more problems at school for them,who knows. This is just a bad idea in my opinion.

I have to agree, just dealing with what society calls "normal" can be tough enough without all the extra dynamic of being gay in a pretty much straight world. I recall talking with a couple of my gay high school friends and it struck me that I should have seen the pain they were in and yet I had no clue about it at the time. I didn't know it at the time but I prevented a gay classmate from committing suicide, it wasn't until we were at our ten year class reunion that he opened up to me and told me what happened. I can tell you it sent a chill up and down my spine because I recalled I very nearly didn't say anything to him and had I not spoken to him at that particular moment, I'd never have been able to because he was leaving to kill himself at that point in time. I'm not the religious type, but in this case I truly feel the hand of God or Guardian Angel or whatever you want to call it intervened and pushed me into saying something, the very something that saved his life.

......and at the time I had no more a clue how important a simple kind exchange of words was when it happened, but if it hadn't he would not be my very much alive friend today. he and his partner have been together now some twenty-three years, not a bad run all things considered.


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Posted 04 February 2013 - 12:27 PM

View PostK_Bonita, on 01 February 2013 - 07:18 PM, said:

Let kids be kids and let them deal with their personal life on their own,if they really need somebody to know parents would be first,not teachers this might cause more problems at school for them,who knows. This is just a bad idea in my opinion.

Unfortunately it is not so black and white.    It is not always best to let kids "deal with their personal lives on their own".   Parents need to be involved in their childrens lives.  Just allot of gray area here.





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