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#1    SpiritWriter

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:10 PM

Have you had experiences?

Do you tend to believe others when they confide thier stories to you?

Do you accept some types of stories but not others?

Do you believe in ghosts?

Do you believe in angels?

Do you believe in aliens?

Do you believe in other types of spirits not listed here for example demons or fairies etc...

Do you believe in God (or gods and goddesses?)

Do you believe entities can communicate through dreams?

Do you think entities can appear in this realm and be visible for some to see?

Do you believe humans can travel to the spirit world?

Do you believe in religious visions?

What types of stories are valid to you?

Do you base what is valid upon your own experiences?

If you do accept some reports and not others.. why?

Edited by SpiritWriter, 31 January 2013 - 11:15 PM.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 12:19 AM

View PostSpiritWriter, on 31 January 2013 - 11:10 PM, said:

Have you had experiences? Yes

Do you tend to believe others when they confide thier stories to you? I would say I mostly keep an open mind.

Do you accept some types of stories but not others? If I've had a similar experience to the one being told, then obviously I'm more inclined to believe the story.

Do you believe in ghosts? I think it's very likely that such things exist. (I haven't seen one)

Do you believe in angels? I don't think there are solid creatures with wings and halos, but I think it's possible that there are spirits that behave in the way we 'traditionally' expect angels in books and paintings to behave. I think there are 'Guardian angels'.

Do you believe in aliens? I think it's possible they exist, but I have never seen one.

Do you believe in other types of spirits not listed here for example demons or fairies etc...  I believe there are spirits that manifest through some sceances/ouijaboard sessions. I believe stones, plants etc have spirits residing in/around them.

Do you believe in God (or gods and goddesses?) No.

Do you believe entities can communicate through dreams? I have not experienced this myself but wouldn't say it's not possible.

Do you think entities can appear in this realm and be visible for some to see? Yes.

Do you believe humans can travel to the spirit world? I don't think their physical body can, but obviously their spirit can.

Do you believe in religious visions? Yes.

What types of stories are valid to you? Any story that the storyteller experiences as true is valid to me.

Do you base what is valid upon your own experiences? I try not to let that limit my acceptance of other's stories.

If you do accept some reports and not others.. why? It's difficult to explain ...... intuition, I suppose. Something my 'antennae' pick up as being untrue/ exaggerated. Sometimes people truly believe the story they are telling but are misinterpreting it.


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Posted 01 February 2013 - 01:19 AM

Have you had experiences?.....We all 'experience' stuff but that doesn't make them valid nor does the lack of explanation immediately point to something paranormal or mystical. In all cases I find it can be explained by mundane means.

Do you tend to believe others when they confide their stories to you?.....No.

Do you accept some types of stories but not others?....No. All stories lack credibility in my book

Do you believe in ghosts?.....No

Do you believe in angels?......No

Do you believe in aliens?....No. It is possible life exists out there but until there is actual proof, 'belief' is futile, pointless and dangerous.

Do you believe in other types of spirits not listed here for example demons or fairies etc........No

Do you believe in God (or gods and goddesses?).......No

Do you believe entities can communicate through dreams? .......No

Do you think entities can appear in this realm and be visible for some to see?.....I don't accept the concept of entities so..No

Do you believe humans can travel to the spirit world?....I do not accept the concept of the 'spirit world'. It is quaint in the anime "Avatar: The Last Airbender" but as a reality it fails miserably.

Do you believe in religious visions?............No

What types of stories are valid to you?.......Same as in the first question. All are exceedingly suspect in my view

Do you base what is valid upon your own experiences?......No. I do not see any experience as valid simply because it was an "experience.

If you do accept some reports and not others.. why?...I do not accept ANY experience as valid. I may smile politely and nod my head but that does not mean I agree with or accept what the other says.


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Posted 01 February 2013 - 01:43 AM

View PostSpiritWriter, on 31 January 2013 - 11:10 PM, said:

Have you had experiences?
Yes.

Do you tend to believe others when they confide thier stories to you?
I believe that what the other person is confiding in me as to be their own truth. I am more open to believe the self truth of someone else rather than their untruths as a means only to gain attention.

Do you accept some types of stories but not others?
I accept that everything is possible and there is a reason for everything. I also accept that of which may seem unheard of or is to good to be true usually is.

Do you believe in ghosts?
Yes.

Do you believe in angels?
I believe that what one may consider an angel; I may consider it something else. Could very well be the same thing just known by a different name.

Do you believe in aliens?
I want to believe. I like the idea; however, I'm not so sure I'm ready for them to cross my welcome mat.

Do you believe in other types of spirits not listed here for example demons or fairies etc...
I believe more of the former than I do the latter, even though the latter actually could be another form of the former of which instance, I would tend to believe in both in that respect.

Do you believe in God (or gods and goddesses?)
Yes

Do you believe entities can communicate through dreams?
Yes

Do you think entities can appear in this realm and be visible for some to see?
Yes

Do you believe humans can travel to the spirit world?
Yes

Do you believe in religious visions?
Yes. If a person's faith is strong enough, then I do believe that opens a 'portal' or pathway into higher realms. I would never question someone's faith, it's way beyond being rude.

What types of stories are valid to you?
I think that the only validation I would need for a story to hold such a title is how the person tells the story and how affected they are by it emotionally. It is easy to tell the difference between someone telling tales and someone pouring their heart out.


Do you base what is valid upon your own experiences?
I would be a fool if I did. One can compare experiences, but to use one's own experience to deem another person's experience 'worthy' or not is akin to playing some kind of 'God' role to which is way above my spiritual Karma (pay) grade.

If you do accept some reports and not others.. why?
Some reports hold more basis of a possibility whilst others only poises more questions than actual answers. I tend to be more receptive to reports that doesn't have any holes. Like, how I enjoy cheese. I like to eat solid cheese, not cheese with holes in it, cause you end up not experiencing the full flavour.  


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Posted 01 February 2013 - 02:40 AM

View PostSpiritWriter, on 31 January 2013 - 11:10 PM, said:

Have you had experiences?

Not as profound as most claim to have had, but yes I have.

View PostSpiritWriter, on 31 January 2013 - 11:10 PM, said:

Do you tend to believe others when they confide thier stories to you?

As long as I can tell their whole heart is in it. It's better to believe and be let down than to doubt and be put down.

View PostSpiritWriter, on 31 January 2013 - 11:10 PM, said:

Do you accept some types of stories but not others?

Of course.

View PostSpiritWriter, on 31 January 2013 - 11:10 PM, said:

Do you believe in ghosts?

If you mean the souls of the dead trapped on Earth, no.

View PostSpiritWriter, on 31 January 2013 - 11:10 PM, said:

Do you believe in angels?

Absolutely

View PostSpiritWriter, on 31 January 2013 - 11:10 PM, said:

Do you believe in aliens?

Do they exist out there somewhere amongst the literally trillions upon trillions of galaxies out there? Absolutely. Although the whole 'they're here on Earth' thing is still debateable to me...

View PostSpiritWriter, on 31 January 2013 - 11:10 PM, said:

Do you believe in other types of spirits not listed here for example demons or fairies etc...

Demons, yes. Other than that no.

View PostSpiritWriter, on 31 January 2013 - 11:10 PM, said:

Do you believe in God (or gods and goddesses?)

God, yes. Gods (plural) no. Also, I may be wrong, but I don't believe spirits have a gender. Therefore the whole 'goddess' thing is somewhat redundant.

View PostSpiritWriter, on 31 January 2013 - 11:10 PM, said:

Do you believe entities can communicate through dreams?

Absolutely

View PostSpiritWriter, on 31 January 2013 - 11:10 PM, said:

Do you think entities can appear in this realm and be visible for some to see?

Absolutely

View PostSpiritWriter, on 31 January 2013 - 11:10 PM, said:

Do you believe humans can travel to the spirit world?

Absolutely

View PostSpiritWriter, on 31 January 2013 - 11:10 PM, said:

Do you believe in religious visions?

Absolutely

View PostSpiritWriter, on 31 January 2013 - 11:10 PM, said:

What types of stories are valid to you?

Those that line up with Jesus Christ's teachings

View PostSpiritWriter, on 31 January 2013 - 11:10 PM, said:

Do you base what is valid upon your own experiences?

I base nearly everything on my own experiences. It's what's made me who I am today.

View PostSpiritWriter, on 31 January 2013 - 11:10 PM, said:

If you do accept some reports and not others.. why?

As I said, if they contradict, overshadow, or diminish Christ's teachings, than they're considered by me to be false

Jesus Christ - Matthew 28:18-20 said:

"All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 09:03 AM

Have you had experiences?
Yes

Do you tend to believe others when they confide thier stories to you?
Don't have a tendency to lean either way. I take each story on a case by case bases.

Do you accept some types of stories but not others?
Yes

Do you believe in ghosts?
Depends on the definition

Do you believe in angels?
Depends on the definition

Do you believe in aliens?
Depends on the definition

Do you believe in other types of spirits not listed here for example demons or fairies etc...
Depends on the definition

Do you believe in God (or gods and goddesses?)
Depends on the definition

Do you believe entities can communicate through dreams?
Yes

Do you think entities can appear in this realm and be visible for some to see?
Yes but rarely

Do you believe humans can travel to the spirit world?
Still debating on this

Do you believe in religious visions?
Hardly

What types of stories are valid to you?
The ones that I believe

Do you base what is valid upon your own experiences?
For stories alone yes, but when I check out for myself no. I tend to eliminate what is possible first before going straight to the things I think are impossible. i'll discredit what I know is wrong first before discrediting what I don't know is possible.

If you do accept some reports and not others.. why?
Not everybody is honest or well-informed. One man's ghost can be another man's mouse infestation or electrical problem. Just because I think something might be impossible doesn't mean that is actually is though.


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Posted 02 February 2013 - 05:43 PM

View PostSpiritWriter, on 31 January 2013 - 11:10 PM, said:

Have you had experiences?
Supernatural, paranormal and alien.

Do you tend to believe others when they confide thier stories to you?
Yes

Do you accept some types of stories but not others?
No

Do you believe in ghosts?
I know they are real.

Do you believe in angels?
I know they are real.

Do you believe in aliens?
I know they are real.

Do you believe in other types of spirits not listed here for example demons or fairies etc...
I know demons are real. My mind is open to fairies.

Do you believe in God (or gods and goddesses?)
I know God is real.

Do you believe entities can communicate through dreams?
Yes, we are often out of our bodies during dreams.

Do you think entities can appear in this realm and be visible for some to see?
Ghostly apparitions due appear and god dresses spirits in white.

Do you believe humans can travel to the spirit world?
They due often in their sleep.

Do you believe in religious visions?
I've had many myself.

What types of stories are valid to you?
I try to keep an open mind.

Do you base what is valid upon your own experiences?
Yes

If you do accept some reports and not others.. why?



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Posted 03 February 2013 - 12:24 AM

View PostSpiritWriter, on 31 January 2013 - 11:10 PM, said:

Have you had experiences? Yup.

Do you tend to believe others when they confide thier stories to you? Some stories, not others.

Do you accept some types of stories but not others?  See above.

Do you believe in ghosts?  Nope.

Do you believe in angels? On the fence

Do you believe in aliens?  No

Do you believe in other types of spirits not listed here for example demons or fairies etc...  On the fence. Not sure they are "spirits".

Do you believe in God (or gods and goddesses?) Not in the way most people understand her.

Do you believe entities can communicate through dreams?  On the fence

Do you think entities can appear in this realm and be visible for some to see?  Yup.

Do you believe humans can travel to the spirit world?  Spirit world is to squishy a term for me to answer the question.

Do you believe in religious visions?  No

What types of stories are valid to you? Ones that are similar to my own experiences.

Do you base what is valid upon your own experiences?  My own experiences, experiences shared with others, and lots of study & research, as far as possible.

If you do accept some reports and not others.. why? There are several factors I consider: age, experience, education, sophistication, world experience, my own understanding & experiences, and whether some of the stories sound like something I've seen in a movie, TV show, or read in a book.

Hey, I'm glad you asked these questions. I realized that I need to come out of the closet and share more of my personal experiences with spooks & paranormal stuff. Not because I want to convince others of the validity of them, but because I was in danger of denying my own experiences and my reality in order to join the majority whose reality is different than mine, and that would put me out of integrity with myself. I have shared much more openly face to face, and the reception I've gotten was far more open than what I've generally experienced here. But that's good, because the skepticism has made me think more deeply about my experiences, caused me to re-frame some of them, and find some/better explanations for them. But not to deny them. I'm an elder, have had a lot of life's experiences, always engaged in introspection, am a life-long autodidact, and am at least as smart as the average bear. I have learned to trust my own wisdom & thinking, and to speak my truth, despite any possible negative consequences. It's a good place to be in.

Edited by Beany, 03 February 2013 - 12:24 AM.


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Posted 03 February 2013 - 01:45 AM

View PostBeany, on 03 February 2013 - 12:24 AM, said:


Not because I want to convince others of the validity of them, but because I was in danger of denying my own experiences and my reality in order to join the majority whose reality is different than mine, and that would put me out of integrity with myself.


This is a very important point... im glad you mentioned it. I think humans are trained not to trust themselves and that there are "authorities" who opinions are facts and anything else is considered false. We still have a way to go in accepting the diversity of intellegences and even the intellegence of ourselves in some cases.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 05:52 AM

View PostSpiritWriter, on 03 February 2013 - 01:45 AM, said:

This is a very important point... im glad you mentioned it. I think humans are trained not to trust themselves and that there are "authorities" who opinions are facts and anything else is considered false. We still have a way to go in accepting the diversity of intellegences and even the intellegence of ourselves in some cases.

Yeah, all those skeptics almost talked me into denying my own truths. I don't doubt my experiences, but don't have any "scientific" or "rational" explanations for them, either. But lack of "proof" doesn't invalidate the experience, it just means there's no lack of proof. That's OK, all of those experiences were gifts that helped me see our world more fully, with all the diversity, wonder, and beauty it contains. And it sent me on a journey not only of self-discovery, but also of discovering the broad diversity of cultural, religious, and spiritual traditions that exist and have existed throughout the centuries. I think I'm a better person for it, it has brought so many positives into my life.


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Posted 03 February 2013 - 06:55 AM

View PostBeany, on 03 February 2013 - 12:24 AM, said:

Hey, I'm glad you asked these questions. I realized that I need to come out of the closet and share more of my personal experiences with spooks & paranormal stuff. Not because I want to convince others of the validity of them, but because I was in danger of denying my own experiences and my reality in order to join the majority whose reality is different than mine, and that would put me out of integrity with myself. I have shared much more openly face to face, and the reception I've gotten was far more open than what I've generally experienced here. But that's good, because the skepticism has made me think more deeply about my experiences, caused me to re-frame some of them, and find some/better explanations for them. But not to deny them. I'm an elder, have had a lot of life's experiences, always engaged in introspection, am a life-long autodidact, and am at least as smart as the average bear. I have learned to trust my own wisdom & thinking, and to speak my truth, despite any possible negative consequences. It's a good place to be in.

The most important part of that passage isn't the fact that you had experiences, it's that you have the confidence, courage, and outright audacity to proclaim it to people. Don't ever let go of that beautifully rare kind of strength and spirit. :tu:

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"All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 07:44 AM

View PostBeany, on 03 February 2013 - 05:52 AM, said:



Yeah, all those skeptics almost talked me into denying my own truths. I don't doubt my experiences, but don't have any "scientific" or "rational" explanations for them, either. But lack of "proof" doesn't invalidate the experience, it just means there's no lack of proof. That's OK, all of those experiences were gifts that helped me see our world more fully, with all the diversity, wonder, and beauty it contains. And it sent me on a journey not only of self-discovery, but also of discovering the broad diversity of cultural, religious, and spiritual traditions that exist and have existed throughout the centuries. I think I'm a better person for it, it has brought so many positives into my life.

There is no lack of proof if you experienced it! That is the proof! You cannot help what another person won't accept. You can only consider the reasons why he is unable to accept it.

Edit: Hope I didn't sound too forceful with the explanation points lol... I just am passionate about this proof and lack of proof thing...

Edited by SpiritWriter, 03 February 2013 - 07:55 AM.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 03:41 PM

Well SpiritWriter, don't you think it's time for you to answer your own quetions for us?


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Posted 03 February 2013 - 04:38 PM

View PostSpiritWriter, on 03 February 2013 - 07:44 AM, said:

There is no lack of proof if you experienced it! That is the proof! You cannot help what another person won't accept. You can only consider the reasons why he is unable to accept it.

Edit: Hope I didn't sound too forceful with the explanation points lol... I just am passionate about this proof and lack of proof thing...

You don't sound too forceful to me. Until the paranormal stuff started showing up in my life I was a skeptic. When it started I was totally freaked out, and living on a small island in the Western Pacific, so there weren't a whole lot of resources available to me to help figure out what the heck was going on. But because I WAS living on a small island in a culture where this kind of thing is quite normal & no one placed any great importance on it, I was better able to accept it than if it occurred here in the US. And I'm not sure it would have even happened here. At some point, about 6 months into it, I decided the what & why wasn't as important as how I responded to it: I could either consider it meaningful or just blow it off as some fun, odd & interesting occurrences. I chose the former. From the island's one bookstore, I read sociology, history, psychology, social science, religion & spirituality, read books about different cultures, self-help, before I ever discovered the metaphysical section at the back of the store. The great thing about it was that because there were no "experts" available, I engaged in research without any bias, gathered the information, and reached my own conclusions. My conclusion: what a magnificent world we live in, and there's much more here than what many people are able to see.


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Posted 03 February 2013 - 04:55 PM

View PostSpiritWriter, on 31 January 2013 - 11:10 PM, said:

Have you had experiences? Everyone has.

Do you tend to believe others when they confide thier stories to you? I believe they had a experience, some times.

Do you accept some types of stories but not others? No, I accept what I know is possible.

Do you believe in ghosts? No.

Do you believe in angels? No.

Do you believe in aliens? As in visiting Earth, no.

Do you believe in other types of spirits not listed here for example demons or fairies etc...No.

Do you believe in God (or gods and goddesses?) Not sure.

Do you believe entities can communicate through dreams? No.

Do you think entities can appear in this realm and be visible for some to see? No.

Do you believe humans can travel to the spirit world? No.

Do you believe in religious visions? I believe people see them, but it is not physically real.

What types of stories are valid to you?  To vague..........Stories that have verifiable facts and evidence to back them up.

Do you base what is valid upon your own experiences? No.

If you do accept some reports and not others.. why? To Vague again....I accept most reports, although I may not accept the silly theories on what they are.


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