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Downward Spiral of The U.S.


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#31    Michelle

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 06:57 PM

View PostCorp, on 04 February 2013 - 05:34 PM, said:

Meh, I hold to the theory that Obama has been killing people's pets. Maybe that would explain who some people have such a deep and personal hatred for him. Could be that I'm paying more attention to American politics but I don't recall Bush getting this level of irrational hatred when he was in office. Know plenty didn't like him but there didn't seem to be the same eagerness to start rebellions and civil wars.

I wish the UM history went back far enough to show all of the vile, childish articles and the things that were said about Bush. Here is but one example of the things being said about him.

http://voices.yahoo....erica-3105.html

Take a look at the other articles linked on the same page.

Edited by Michelle, 04 February 2013 - 06:59 PM.


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Posted 04 February 2013 - 08:04 PM

View PostMichelle, on 04 February 2013 - 06:57 PM, said:

I wish the UM history went back far enough to show all of the vile, childish articles and the things that were said about Bush. Here is but one example of the things being said about him.

http://voices.yahoo....erica-3105.html

Take a look at the other articles linked on the same page.

Oh how soon they forget,selective memory is an amazing thing!2 words Kanye West,one of the absolute dumbest remarks a full grown adult has ever been allowed to make at a highly publicized event!

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 08:24 PM

View PostCrimsonKing, on 04 February 2013 - 08:04 PM, said:

Oh how soon they forget,selective memory is an amazing thing!2 words Kanye West,one of the absolute dumbest remarks a full grown adult has ever been allowed to make at a highly publicized event!

It always amazes me when people say Obama is the hatest presidents they can remember. The press has given him virtually a free ride while they were all over Bush like white on rice...and so were a lot of people. If anyone disagrees with Obama they are labeled a racist.


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Posted 04 February 2013 - 09:30 PM

View Post-Mr_Fess-, on 04 February 2013 - 06:43 PM, said:

I think it's a couple of things.
One, patience for this out of control government is wearing thin. It's been since 9-11 I think that more people are apt to pay attention to things and also that's when the constitution started getting some serious bad looks on the hill. I'm relatively young and especially new to politics. I haven't got a full decade of political interest under my belt yet.
Second IMO, this rebellious tone in the country has been set in high gear by the divisive tactics and words that come from our dear leader. He is a master at division and I don't mean math.

I could see how this could be a build up of anger over the years, though personally I don't really see the divisive tactics. Obama seems to have caved to GOP demands several times during his first term. On the outside looking in it appears that the division is coming not from Obama but from those who have decided to hate him. I mean this talk of open rebellion is as silly as the talk of fleeing to Canada when Bush won his second term.


View PostMichelle, on 04 February 2013 - 06:57 PM, said:

I wish the UM history went back far enough to show all of the vile, childish articles and the things that were said about Bush. Here is but one example of the things being said about him.

http://voices.yahoo....erica-3105.html

Take a look at the other articles linked on the same page.

Oh there's no doubt that a lot of stupid things were said about Bush. That he was a war criminal, that he was stupid, that he was actually controled by Cheney, etc. But it didn't seem to get as much attention as the claims that Obama is a Muslim, that he's a socialist, that he's no American, etc. Perhaps with the news networks expanding they decide to pay more attention to the crazy to fill the hours. Likewise I like Obama more than I did Bush so my own bias could be colouring things. Still some of the stuff people get really mad about seem kind of silly. Ok yeah a pointless assault rifle ban is being talked about but Clinton put it in place when he was in office and was later ended. The GOP can block it this time and if not then the next Republican president can get rid of it. No need to march on the capital.

Though another reason why these views seem to prevelant could be the growth of the internet. It's much easier now to have ideas spread around so stuff that might have been ignored in the past since no one knew about it now gets spread around. After all most of the Obama hate I come across is on UM. :P

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 09:50 PM

I'm still waiting to be put in one of those FEMA camps everybody was going on Bush was going to put us all into. :D


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Posted 04 February 2013 - 09:58 PM

Turns out they weren't FEMA camps.  That was the cover story.  They were actually housing for the Grays.  :alien:

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:13 PM

View PostMichelle, on 04 February 2013 - 09:50 PM, said:

I'm still waiting to be put in one of those FEMA camps everybody was going on Bush was going to put us all into. :D

Well he couldn't have done it while in office. You would have been expecting that! Now they're saying Obama is going to throw you all in camps but I think he's too lazy. He'll just set up a tent for you and claim that he put you in a FEMA camp.

War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth a war, is much worse...A man who has nothing which he is willing to fight for, nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.




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