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A 'Church for Atheists' opened yesterday


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#1    ouija ouija

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 06:22 PM

http://www.bbc.co.uk...gazine-21319945

This gathering of 300 atheists was in a deconsecrated church in London. They sang uplifting pop songs and also spent some time in silent reflection. The meeting was led by a stand-up comedian. They hope to hold regular meetings.

Not my kind of thing, but I think it fills an increasingly large gap in the market.

What, in all the world, could I do to earn my living and still live as myself, as I knew myself to be? Temporary masks, I knew, had their place; everyone was wearing them, they were the human rage; but not masks cemented in place until the wearer could not breathe and was eventually suffocated.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 06:33 PM

This is why I don't class myself as an Atheist. Even though I do not follow a religion or believe in god.

Atheists like this are just as bad as extreme religious people who shove their religious views down others throats. It's just as annoying and just as offensive.

Atheism is ironically becoming a religion. lol


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overwhelmingly young, white and middle class - appear excited to be part of something new and speak of the void they felt on a Sunday morning


Void?!  For the young, white and middle class in the UK, Sunday morning doesn't exist, it's for sleeping off a hangover.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 06:42 PM

Well... how pointless can you get? Really? Being athiest is of no concern to me at all, but having a CHURCH suggests the worship and spiritual awareness of the group of individuals that chose to come together. WHO or WHAT can an athiest church be in worship of??? Churches are for worship of a higher power. Athiests don't believe in God. It makes absolutely no sense at all.


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Posted 04 February 2013 - 06:52 PM

A church for atheists makes as much sense to me as a maternity ward for virgins! (Oooo - that's a bit more profound than I first thought!) Posted Image

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 06:57 PM

If they called themselves a society and held their meetings on Wednesday, no one would pay them any attention.  I think therefore I know why they call themselves a church and do it on Sunday.


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Posted 04 February 2013 - 07:07 PM

so, they are atheists in need of a religious service? Does schizophrenia sound like a known concept to them?

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 08:03 PM

Wait... what? Why do atheists need a church?????? Just... go hang out at the mall why waste your time??? You don't need a church, if you want to go to church then go to a religious church! FFS...

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 08:16 PM

View PostRockabyeBillie, on 04 February 2013 - 08:03 PM, said:

Wait... what? Why do atheists need a church?????? Just... go hang out at the mall why waste your time??? You don't need a church, if you want to go to church then go to a religious church! FFS...

Well, I can understand that they would like to meet up regularly at the same venue to meet like-minded people ...... and sing happy, life-affirming songs. I guess they want to remind themselves that this life is all there is and they should make the best/most of it. There's 300 of them so they need a big venue.

What, in all the world, could I do to earn my living and still live as myself, as I knew myself to be? Temporary masks, I knew, had their place; everyone was wearing them, they were the human rage; but not masks cemented in place until the wearer could not breathe and was eventually suffocated.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 08:50 PM

Seems kind of hypocritical to me. Why call it a church? In point of fact it is a social gathering to reflect on.... what exactly? I think that this group is just a bunch of sh** disturbers out for publicity


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Posted 04 February 2013 - 09:24 PM

View PostGoblin-5, on 04 February 2013 - 08:50 PM, said:

Seems kind of hypocritical to me. Why call it a church? In point of fact it is a social gathering to reflect on.... what exactly? I think that this group is just a bunch of sh** disturbers out for publicity

I don't think are sh** disturbers(as you so politely call them!), and they're calling it a church because they actually meet in a(deconsecrated), church! They probably chose it because it didn't cost much to hire and was a suitable size for 300 to meet in.

What, in all the world, could I do to earn my living and still live as myself, as I knew myself to be? Temporary masks, I knew, had their place; everyone was wearing them, they were the human rage; but not masks cemented in place until the wearer could not breathe and was eventually suffocated.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 04:29 AM

View Postouija ouija, on 04 February 2013 - 06:22 PM, said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk...gazine-21319945

This gathering of 300 atheists was in a deconsecrated church in London. They sang uplifting pop songs and also spent some time in silent reflection. The meeting was led by a stand-up comedian. They hope to hold regular meetings.

Not my kind of thing, but I think it fills an increasingly large gap in the market.

On the face of it, it sounded absurd to me. I would have thought the closest to an "atheist church" would be a university.
But what the article described made a lot more sense than what the headline suggested.

An occasion to celebrate life, celebrate reason, and to state proudly that you believe in modernity and not some kind of medieval deity is indeed a good thing, especially now that in Europe the established religion is crumbling while at the same time massive immigration has foisted into Europe a medieval, aggressive, supremacist religion is growing by leaps and bounds, thanks to the combination of demographics and political correctness.

Edited by Zaphod222, 05 February 2013 - 04:31 AM.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 04:34 AM

View PostCoffey, on 04 February 2013 - 06:33 PM, said:

This is why I don't class myself as an Atheist. Even though I do not follow a religion or believe in god.
Atheists like this are just as bad as extreme religious people who shove their religious views down others throats. It's just as annoying and just as offensive.

That is an extremely simplistic statement. Disappointing.
But I suppose you´re just trying score some easy points which cheap shots.

Edited by Zaphod222, 05 February 2013 - 04:34 AM.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 04:36 AM

View Postealdwita, on 04 February 2013 - 06:52 PM, said:

A church for atheists makes as much sense to me as a maternity ward for virgins! (Oooo - that's a bit more profound than I first thought!) Posted Image

LOL!
So you admit it does make sense. Note they also had comedians, so I wouldn´t be surprised if they had mentioned that already.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:34 AM

"Far better to call it something like cultural humanism..." Now that is a better name then atheism. (Better name for what I believe as well and fixes the problem I had with atheism).

A problem I have with no religion is that there is no sense of community anymore.

I'd consider a church to be a university or a school anyway it is supposed to be about learning, thinking, and improving one's self, not just about following, submission, and unrequited self-sacrifice.

"De Botton says he wants to promote overlooked virtues such as resilience and humour." Makes me want to rub myself down with bacon and butter, That is something I could back easily.


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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:53 AM

View PostILRNouda, on 04 February 2013 - 06:42 PM, said:

Well... how pointless can you get? Really? Being athiest is of no concern to me at all, but having a CHURCH suggests the worship and spiritual awareness of the group of individuals that chose to come together. WHO or WHAT can an athiest church be in worship of??? Churches are for worship of a higher power. Athiests don't believe in God. It makes absolutely no sense at all.

What about Star Trek conventions?

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