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#391    Goddess_Lilith

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 06:46 PM

And does it really matter if it was porn star, prostitute, skank or any of the above?? The fact that she would view something like that as a compliment is sad in my opinion and doesn't exactly help the case against her not being mentally okay.


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Posted 08 March 2013 - 06:58 PM

View PostMoon Gazer, on 08 March 2013 - 04:01 PM, said:

I don't think that it was just 100% sex.  Maybe for him.  But I think she was a willing participant in the kinky sex stuff and enjoyed it as much as him, but I think she wanted more.  I think she did want to be with him and was jealous that he was going to be going away with another woman.  I do think she genuinely loved him and took part in the sexual activities because she wanted to and enjoyed it.  And then I think when he tried to back off she got obsessive and jealous (apparently hacking in to his emails, slashing his tyres etc.  I don't know what evidence there is of this but I believe his room mates said it happened??).  I don't think he helped himself by continuing to sleep with her at times, I guess some guys don't think with their brain at times as if he wanted to split with her then sleeping with her wasn't a good idea.  She probably thought that as he was sleeping with her there was a chance she would get him to herself just like she wanted, but after realising he was going to take another woman away and he didn't care for her like she cared for him, I think she flipped.



I agree with most of your post (except I'd question Arias' love for Alexander).

I don't know if Alexander made the trip that he was planning to make in which he said on the tape he'd make seeing Arias his priority.
If he never made that trip, then that would be another reason for Arias to feel rejection, then add to it, the fact that Alexander was indeed taking another girl on the trip to Cancun.
The trip was supposed to be for late May...and a lot happened in late May.
(Arias wrote that repayment check to Alexander May 25th, and the burglary at the home where Arias was living was reported on May 28th.)

Flores' Investigative Report contained witnesses statements re: obsessive, controlling, and stalking behavior from Arias, but I don't think any of it was entered into evidence.

Edited by regi, 08 March 2013 - 06:59 PM.


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Posted 08 March 2013 - 07:00 PM

If a man called your daughter any of those names and she came home all excited about how sweet this compliment was, wouldn't you want to first of all know why she thinks being called that is sweet and secondly wouldn't you have some words for the jerk who called her it? It's not right, whether she seen as a compliment or not, you and I both know its not. She's not okay.


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Posted 08 March 2013 - 07:07 PM

View PostGoddess_Lilith, on 08 March 2013 - 06:46 PM, said:

And does it really matter if it was porn star, prostitute, skank or any of the above?? The fact that she would view something like that as a compliment is sad in my opinion and doesn't exactly help the case against her not being mentally okay.

I'm not a bit sad for Arias. In reference to murdering Alexander, she testified that she was embarrassed about it...ashamed about it. She was surprised she did it...it was all about her.
She never expressed one ounce of remorse or that she's sorry!
Indeed, she's not remorseful. She's only sorry she got caught; she went to great lengths not to get caught, and is still going to any length not to be held accountable!
She's very much in her right mind. I stress 'her' right mind. She knew exactly what she was doing at the time, and exactly what she's doing now. It's her nature.

What's sad is that there's people like her in the world, and she leaves behind others to continue to suffer from her destruction.

Edited by regi, 08 March 2013 - 07:14 PM.


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Posted 08 March 2013 - 07:12 PM

View PostGoddess_Lilith, on 08 March 2013 - 07:00 PM, said:

If a man called your daughter any of those names and she came home all excited about how sweet this compliment was, wouldn't you want to first of all know why she thinks being called that is sweet and secondly wouldn't you have some words for the jerk who called her it? It's not right, whether she seen as a compliment or not, you and I both know its not. She's not okay.

I see it for what it was- sex talk, like it or not, and Arias is now trying to turn it into something it wasn't.


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Posted 08 March 2013 - 07:32 PM

View PostGoddess_Lilith, on 08 March 2013 - 06:35 PM, said:

Btw can someone explain to me how they can punish someone for murder by murdering them? What's the moral of the story kids....I gather the lesson being that sometimes murder IS okay.

You might be interested in 'Capital Punishment - For or Against?' in the Spirituality vs Skepticism forum.

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 07:33 PM

Arizona Definition of First Degree Murder

http://www.courtminu...09/m3846408.pdf


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Posted 08 March 2013 - 08:37 PM

View PostGoddess_Lilith, on 08 March 2013 - 02:24 PM, said:

I don't know too many women that would allow themselves to be used sexually, that haven't suffered some form of abuse in their life. And yes I said used because I don't think she was a willing participant in the sense that she knew it was going now where with him. I think he made it seem as though he loved her and was going to marry her someday and she believed him because she loved him. I think he did abuse her mentally and emotionally. I don't think she enjoyed any scene....I think she wanted this man, who treated her very poorly, to love her. Now why would anyone want to be with someone if that person treated them so bad? Um idk how about pick up pyschology book and read about how much of a roll a dad/male figure plays in a girls life and what kind of impact having a not so good one can do. Idk about her childhood but I can only assume something was lacking in order for her to seek the love of someone like she did. Again, I think she is guilty but not of 1st degree murder. He could have very well prevented this whole thing had he done what was morally right and not taken advantage and used her.
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Posted 08 March 2013 - 08:43 PM

No I'm not interested in that thread thank you and oddly enough I do know what kind disgusting laws Az has and what they define as first degree murder. I don't feel bad for Alexander, I think he played with fire and he got burned. As for the families of both, like i said previously, I do feel for them. And as for an example of how the prosecution took words out of contex...if you had maybe watched the trial instead of listening to phone calls you would have heard him repeatedly take what she said to the detective on tape about taking pix of him out of context. She clearly states she had to do some convincing PRIOR...NOT on the day of the murder. You should recap some of this trial we're taking about and then I wouldn't have to give you examples. And next time you want an example just ask, don't assume that I want one from you and in return I'll feel the need to prove my opinion to you too.


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Posted 08 March 2013 - 09:14 PM

View PostGoddess_Lilith, on 08 March 2013 - 08:43 PM, said:

No I'm not interested in that thread thank you and oddly enough I do know what kind disgusting laws Az has and what they define as first degree murder. I don't feel bad for Alexander, I think he played with fire and he got burned.

As did Jodi.


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Posted 08 March 2013 - 11:03 PM

View PostGoddess_Lilith, on 08 March 2013 - 08:43 PM, said:

No I'm not interested in that thread thank you and oddly enough I do know what kind disgusting laws Az has and what they define as first degree murder. I don't feel bad for Alexander, I think he played with fire and he got burned. As for the families of both, like i said previously, I do feel for them. And as for an example of how the prosecution took words out of contex...if you had maybe watched the trial instead of listening to phone calls you would have heard him repeatedly take what she said to the detective on tape about taking pix of him out of context. She clearly states she had to do some convincing PRIOR...NOT on the day of the murder. You should recap some of this trial we're taking about and then I wouldn't have to give you examples. And next time you want an example just ask, don't assume that I want one from you and in return I'll feel the need to prove my opinion to you too.


Alexander deserved to be brutally murdered...he deserves to be dead?!
Nothing you could say could be more appalling!

No, you don't have to 'prove your opinion' if you don't want to, but I do expect that one bases their opinion on fact, which you clearly have not done and can't do because re: the rest of your post, you don't get it, and I certainly don't care to explain it to you.

Edited by regi, 08 March 2013 - 11:03 PM.


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Posted 08 March 2013 - 11:39 PM

Ahaha I love that its appalling for me to imply that a man who preyed on a persons weakness and used them and treated them with such disrespect got what he did because he chose not to be a decent human being but your statements about Ms Arias are not appalling. Since when does taking advantage of someone and using them make you a good person? Did I miss that memo? Oh and please please explain it to me...share your knowledge oh great one. Hahaha your funny.


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Posted 08 March 2013 - 11:59 PM

those two had no business being together in the first place, should have listened to grannie

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 08:23 AM

View PostGoddess_Lilith, on 08 March 2013 - 11:39 PM, said:

Ahaha I love that its appalling for me to imply that a man who preyed on a persons weakness and used them and treated them with such disrespect got what he did because he chose not to be a decent human being but your statements about Ms Arias are not appalling. Since when does taking advantage of someone and using them make you a good person? Did I miss that memo? Oh and please please explain it to me...share your knowledge oh great one. Hahaha your funny.

I personally (I know this reply was for Regi but just wanted to reply too) don't believe that Alexander was a great person.  And I do think he was using Jodi for sex in the months / weeks before he was killed.  Obviously not a nice thing to do and pretty stupid considering she had shown obsessive and stalker behaviour if witnesses are to be believed.  But that doesn't mean he deserved to be killed.

I guess it's all down to whether you believe the stuff coming out of Jodi's mouth in court.  You obviously believe all this bad stuff she says about Alexander, myself, I don't.  I think the terms which you and I consider to be derogatory were just used as part of the sex talk.  As far as I have seen, other than Jodi's word, there is no other evidence at all of violent or abusive behaviour from Alexander.

Maybe using her for sex once they split could be considered abusive behavior?  I don't know.  But sadly men all over the world will do that, sleeping with their ex girlfriends just for sex while giving them the impression that they will get back together but knowing they won't.  It's not at all nice but they don't all deserve to be killed. Maybe a good slap yes lol.


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Posted 09 March 2013 - 10:34 AM






What I  still don`nt under stand by the crime scence , if Thavis was shot in the head frist running by the sink, there would have been blood splatter on the walls, the mirror , ect. however if he was shot crouching down as Jodi had said tackeling her like a linebacker, would`nt there have blood on the casing shell on the floor that had dropped.Also if you looked at the blood on the sink it does`nt  looked like its from a  gun shot blast.There just something in all the blood at the scene that does nts fit.   They really should have gotten the blood expert in there from the beginning like Dr Lee to prove or disprove Jodi `s  story .





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