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[Detective Mystery 2013]

Corp, on 11 February 2013 - 05:55 PM, said:

Alex Jones ranks up there, largely because he has such a huge following who he has convinced he's the only source of "truth" out there and yet seem blind to all the lies and crazy stuff he's put out there.

What lies did he tell? Is he dishonest, or does he just put forth mistaken personal opinions as definite unquestionable facts?

[Corp]

Detective Mystery 2013, on 12 February 2013 - 05:07 AM, said:

What lies did he tell? Is he dishonest, or does he just put forth mistaken personal opinions as definite unquestionable facts?

He claims that chemicals used to make juice boxes are turning people gay in a secret effort to lower the population. That's right, gay people are an evil government plot. He's claimed that all vaccines, not just modern ones but all of them, are designed to kill people and are evil. He's also made dozens of claims that false flag terrorist attacks are only "months away" and yet nothing happens. He's also made a lot of other predictions and claims that haven't happened. I'm not sure if he's outright lying or if he's just ignoring certain facts and making wild claims but both end with him misleading people to suit his own needs. Would think that after terrorist attacks fail to happened for the fifth time in a row that people would see that Jones isn't really on the ball.

Another thing that gets me is that some say the MSM is all about keeping the population scared and thus shouldn't be trusted. And yet Alex Jones is nothing but fear. As least the media networks put in some nice stories and aren't always screaming at us to be terrified.

[Frank Merton]

Sounds to me that the virtually unlimited freedom of the press found in the United States has its dark side.

[Colonel Rhuairidh]

turbonium, on 11 February 2013 - 12:31 PM, said:

If so, then you should get exactly what you'd deserve for that crime.

If I really went to the moon, I wouldn't blow a gasket if some loudmouthed goofball called me a liar, thief, or whatever. I mean, it's really just sticks and stones, isn't it? I know I'm not a liar. I wouldn't get riled up or go 'postal' on him,   I'd be irritated, sure. But not steaming mad.   

And I'd certainly never threaten to kill someone because he called me a liar, etc. That's outright lunatic behavior. Who would say such a thing? Someone who is very scared.

What, he's been accused of having lived a lie for 40 years or more, of being part of the great Government Coverup Conspiracy, of having (effectively)  become a celebrity, and lived off the fame, for 40+ years, as a complete fraud, and you wouldn't let that rile you? really? And then some nut, who's no doubt been hassling him for years and years and years, telling him that he's a liar for years and years, pops up yet again and says exactly the same thing, you'd just shrug it aside with a wry smile? Like the theme music to Top Gun, the conspiracy industry really does take my breath away sometimes.

[Colonel Rhuairidh]

Lilly, on 11 February 2013 - 01:16 PM, said:

Just to add my personal 2 cents here; David Icke and his Reptilians are the silliest conspiracy IMO.

i know they should be regarded as reprehensible* for fleecing the gullible & so on, but I don't really mind people like Icke** and Hoagland, they may have a different... way of looking at things than some, or perhaps most, but they're different from those who (like e.g. the 'Moon Hoax') are effectively acccusing people who most people regard as very great heroes, as i said above, of being frauds and of claiming to have been something they haven't. That just seems disrespectful to me. As far as the 9/11 conspiracists go, I do think that they (mostly) do believe that a great wrong was committed, and want to see justice done, so i can see why they'd argue so passionately, even if i don't necessarily agree with them.
* or reptilian
** yes, it's true; i like Icke

[Detective Mystery 2013]

Corp, on 12 February 2013 - 03:07 PM, said:

He claims that chemicals used to make juice boxes are turning people gay in a secret effort to lower the population. That's right, gay people are an evil government plot. He's claimed that all vaccines, not just modern ones but all of them, are designed to kill people and are evil. He's also made dozens of claims that false flag terrorist attacks are only "months away" and yet nothing happens. He's also made a lot of other predictions and claims that haven't happened. I'm not sure if he's outright lying or if he's just ignoring certain facts and making wild claims but both end with him misleading people to suit his own needs. Would think that after terrorist attacks fail to happened for the fifth time in a row that people would see that Jones isn't really on the ball.

Another thing that gets me is that some say the MSM is all about keeping the population scared and thus shouldn't be trusted. And yet Alex Jones is nothing but fear. As least the media networks put in some nice stories and aren't always screaming at us to be terrified.

Thanks for providing the specific examples. One has to ask if he's dishonest *or* mistaken. I'm not a regular listener of his show. I caught him on another show. He needs to take it down a notch or two. He makes great points at times, but they're drowned by his theatrics. He puts his own interpretation on *true* stories. That seems to be his method. Person A does or says something that is well documented. Jones then says that it can't be denied because sources prove it, and he's right. He then puts his own spin on the documented facts. That said, he brings important incidents to our awareness, and that's a great thing when the MSM is a joke.

[RaptorBites]

Detective Mystery 2013, on 12 February 2013 - 05:07 AM, said:

What lies did he tell? Is he dishonest, or does he just put forth mistaken personal opinions as definite unquestionable facts?

What lies did he tell?

Did you not listen to his Y2K broadcast?

[RaptorBites]

Detective Mystery 2013, on 13 February 2013 - 01:47 AM, said:

One has to ask if he's dishonest *or* mistaken.

All of the above, and then some more.

[s33ker]

DONNY GILLSON!

[Archimedes]

Anyone familiar with Jim Corr (he of "The Corrs" fame)?

I'm from the same part of the world as he is and have met his sisters of "The Corrs" fame.  I know family members who follow him on Facebook and/or Twitter because they know him personally or share common friends and he is clearly barely tethered to reality.  I've heard he regularly updates about 'chemtrail' planes flying over Ireland.

[Asadora]

Too many for me in which to choose.

They are all as bad as each other.
If the question was 'Who is the most entertaining conspiracy theorist?' then that'd be less difficult to answer.

[Zaphod222]

Lord Vetinari, on 12 February 2013 - 03:23 PM, said:

As far as the 9/11 conspiracists go, I do think that they (mostly) do believe that a great wrong was committed, and want to see justice done, so i can see why they'd argue so passionately, even if i don't necessarily agree with them.
* or reptilian
** yes, it's true; i like Icke

As far as the 9/11 troothers go, the pure, unadulterated stupidity p***es me off. Reading 9/11 troothers feels like being bukkaked with pure stupidity. While Alex Jones and David Icke at least have some entertainment value, I find that sadly missing with the troothers.

[Detective Mystery 2013]

RaptorBites, on 13 February 2013 - 08:10 PM, said:

What lies did he tell?

Did you not listen to his Y2K broadcast?

I didn't even know who he was back then. LOL I came late to the conspiracy game.

[Detective Mystery 2013]

Archimedes, on 14 February 2013 - 12:47 AM, said:

Anyone familiar with Jim Corr (he of "The Corrs" fame)?

I'm from the same part of the world as he is and have met his sisters of "The Corrs" fame.  I know family members who follow him on Facebook and/or Twitter because they know him personally or share common friends and he is clearly barely tethered to reality.  I've heard he regularly updates about 'chemtrail' planes flying over Ireland.

You're a lucky lad. Corr is quite cute, and his sisters ain't bad, either. I'm kidding. I'm really and truly straight. In any event, thanks for the information about Jim. I didn't know that about him. I hope that he's more lucid than Randy Quaid or Charlie Sheen. Of course, I must admit that they sounded believable on a few You Tube clips.

[Likely Guy]

Has anyone mentioned Nancy Lieder yet? Not so much a CT'er, just a doomsday quack. They both feed on irrational fear though so they must be of the same species.