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#76    DONTEATUS

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 10:02 PM

Most of America would of been right with Buzz and pitched in THis Sibrel`s needs to be put away !

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 01:30 AM

I've posted this little story in another forum, but it deserves mention here.

The worst conspiracy theorist has to be Jesse Ventura.

Last year in July, he was promoting a book on the "coming economic collapse and surviving 2012".  Mr. Ventura had the definitive guide to surviving the apocalypse, and his book was going to teach you step by step in how to prepare when it all came crashing down on Dec 21st, 2012.  He said food and water would be scarce, and money would be worthless.

So in a Q & A session, I asked him point blank:

"Mr. Ventura, if money is going to be worthless, then why are you charging $49.95 for your book?"

He refused to answer that very legitimate question.

Dr. Phil says that marriage is hard work.

I say....if marriage is hard work, you're doing it wrong.  Love is not work.  Love is eternal.

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 08:22 AM

View PostCzero 101, on 24 February 2013 - 07:29 PM, said:

Or are you going to employ the old "Red Herring / Topic Change" trick to try and distract and dance your way out of having to admit that you were caught lying (AGAIN) when you claimed that Sibrel filed no charges against Aldrin?

To my knowledge, Sibrel did not press assault charges against Aldrin. You are claiming Sibrel did press charges. Whether or not this is true, I wasn't aware of that claim.

So in fact,  you've just been caught (AGAIN) wrongly accusing me of lying!!

You won't get away with your garbage smear tactics.


View PostCzero 101, on 24 February 2013 - 07:29 PM, said:


I personally don't care what you think of this or pretty much anything else. You've shown time and again that you are not interested in facts, evidence, honest debate or maintaining one iota of credibility or personal integrity.

The facts show who really lacks credibility and personal integrity.


View PostCzero 101, on 24 February 2013 - 07:29 PM, said:

And in the end it really doesn't matter what YOU think anyway. It only matters what the COURT OF LAW thought when they dropped the charges Sibrel tried to bring against Aldrin.

Okay, so let's see the actual proof that Sibrel pressed assault charges against Aldrin. If you can prove your claim, then I'll gladly stand corrected on it. But if you have no valid proof, then I expect you to do the same.

Let's see 'personal integrity' in action.

View PostCzero 101, on 24 February 2013 - 07:29 PM, said:


And since I can't seem to locate it here in this thread, here's the full video of the events that day, or at the very least, a much longer version showing more than just the punch


Yes, it shows Sibrel does NOT poke his softcover[/b] Bible into Aldrin.

You cite a source which states...

[i]"Beverly Hills police investigated the incident, which occurred 9 September, but said that the charges were dropped after witnesses came forward to say that Mr Sibrel had aggressively poked Mr Aldrin with the Bible before he was punched."


NOTHING OF THE SORT OCCURS BEFORE THE PUNCH!

The video clearly proves those so-called "witnesses" are lying. And you support that lie.

You have some gall, always accusing me of lying! You're such a hypocrite.


View PostCzero 101, on 24 February 2013 - 07:29 PM, said:


I'm guessing that you're ok with Sibrel's behaviour, Turbs... it seems to be a nice match for the ludicrously ignorant, idiotically simple-minded arguments and pattern of behaviour that you are quite happy to display here....

I know it's hard for you to grasp what I say. no matter how often it's said.

I've already made it clear that I'm not ok with Sibrel's conduct. The video shows Sibrel pestering Aldrin for almost two minutes. It's harassment, for sure.

But YOU'RE ok with Aldrin's behavior. You think it's ok to assault someone for calling you names. You even believe such assaults are allowed by law, as a justified response.

I suppose if Aldrin's wife had called him a big phony, you'd stand up and cheer for your great 'hero' if he punched her out, too??

What a crock.


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Posted 02 March 2013 - 10:51 AM

This guy was asking to get punched so he could start a frivolous lawsuit in court.  He has to get that money back from Buzz Aldrin for saying he walked on the moon when he never did.   Not sure what the legal proceedings became of this, but Judge Judy would call Bart a coward in her courtroom and throw this stalker's suit out and probably issue a restraining order to Buzz for his trouble.  Good right cross too.  ;)

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 11:52 AM

If I recall (as this took place awhile back) Mr. Sibrel (a strapping young man) was charged with a crime against the elderly (Buzz was in his 70's at the time). I do believe a restraining order against Mr. Sibrel was the end result.

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 12:42 PM

View PostYamato, on 02 March 2013 - 10:51 AM, said:

This guy was asking to get punched so he could start a frivolous lawsuit in court.  He has to get that money back from Buzz Aldrin for saying he walked on the moon when he never did.   Not sure what the legal proceedings became of this, but Judge Judy would call Bart a coward in her courtroom and throw this stalker's suit out and probably issue a restraining order to Buzz for his trouble.  Good right cross too.  ;)

It is still assault, no matter how you twist it.

Judge Judy has dealt with similar cases, btw. The cases I've seen were all ruled as assaults,

No such assault is legally permitted. If it was, where would you draw the line for it?

It would be a very slippery slope, indeed. Is an assault allowed for any sort of insult? Is it ok for just one insult? Is it not allowed if you're called a doofus, but it is if you're called a liar? What if you're called a jackass? Is that worth a good beating?

It's nonsense.


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Posted 02 March 2013 - 01:26 PM

I think accusing someone of lying is more likely to generate anger if they are telling the truth than if they are lying.  I know that's how I'd be -- p***ed if I were telling the truth but trying to hide it if I were lying by not reacting.


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Posted 02 March 2013 - 02:43 PM

Calling Buzz Aldrin a coward to his face, epic fail. Idiot deserved to have his face rearranged. Maybe knock some sense into this CT'er too.


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Posted 03 March 2013 - 09:43 AM

View PostFrank Merton, on 02 March 2013 - 01:26 PM, said:

I think accusing someone of lying is more likely to generate anger if they are telling the truth than if they are lying.  I know that's how I'd be -- p***ed if I were telling the truth but trying to hide it if I were lying by not reacting.

Sorry, it's just the opposite.  

Joe Smith is telling the truth about 'XYZ'.  Someone accuses him of lying about 'XYZ'. Mr. Smith is totally secure in denying the accusation, because he knows it is falsehood. Joe has nothing to hide, nothing to fear, and no reason to get angry. The accuser is clearly mistaken.

Now, suppose the accuser claims he can show proof of Joe lying about XYZ. Would Joe be worried or scared or nervous...or ANGRY? No, Joe might be amused, even tickled pink. Why? Because, Joe would be able to refute any so-called 'proof', he could put this idiot in his place, right then and there!

Joe doesn't run away from this so-called 'proof'. He isn't so worried about it that he threatens to sue the accuser if it's released to the public.


But a liar would do such things, because he wants to hide the truth.


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Posted 03 March 2013 - 09:45 AM

I disagree, from what I know about myself.  If I'm lying I act as though I don't care if someone accuses me, but when I'm telling the truth someone accusing me of lying makes me angry and I'll show it.

I think perhaps you confuse con artists with ordinary people.


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Posted 03 March 2013 - 11:00 AM

View Postredhen, on 02 March 2013 - 02:43 PM, said:

Calling Buzz Aldrin a coward to his face, epic fail. Idiot deserved to have his face rearranged. Maybe knock some sense into this CT'er too.

Apollo is 100% genuine, a proven fact?

So why do the Apollo believers have such anger and hatred of we 'disbelievers'?

I don't have any anger or hatred of you 'believers'.

Why would you get so irate over a difference of opinion?

I can think of one good reason for it.

Can you?


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Posted 03 March 2013 - 11:07 AM

Oh is that what this is about; sorry Mac, you are barking up the wrong tree   The man risks his life and has a great historical achievement and some fool tells him he's lying about it.  Yea -- any normal person would haul off and let him have it right between the eyes.


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Posted 03 March 2013 - 11:55 AM

View PostFrank Merton, on 03 March 2013 - 09:45 AM, said:

I disagree, from what I know about myself.  If I'm lying I act as though I don't care if someone accuses me, but when I'm telling the truth someone accusing me of lying makes me angry and I'll show it.

I think perhaps you confuse con artists with ordinary people.

A con artist is a professional liar.

Some of the Apollo astronauts are professional (or semi-professional) liars. They can internalize their emotions, for the most part. But they still show signs of lying, like sweating profusely, twitching nervously, etc

Some of the Apollo astronauts are very poor liars. They immediately fall apart when they're accused of lying.
They throw f-bombs, make death threats, and generally lose it.

This is a classic reaction of an unstable liar. If you watch '60 Minutes', you've probably seen the same reaction from people they've caught lying. At first, they act a bit nervous. They get more nervous with more questioning. And when they are shown proof of their lying on a video, they instantly go into a maniacal rage. The exact same pattern as Apollo.
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Posted 03 March 2013 - 12:15 PM

This is too stupid for me to bother with.


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Posted 03 March 2013 - 12:30 PM

View PostFrank Merton, on 03 March 2013 - 12:15 PM, said:

This is too stupid for me to bother with.
Indeed. I suppose being obssessed about such an absurd notion as the "moon landings were faked" theory must affect one's mind eventually.
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