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Are Extraterrestrials Really Demons?


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#211    Frank Merton

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 07:36 AM

Odds at neither has any real existence in our world.  They are misinterpretations, wishful thinking, mental delusions, frauds, pious frauds, and all the other phenomena in the records of psychiatry.  In fact the odds that they are nothing more than these can be said to be overwhelming, given all the study and noise around them not having produced, in over a century, anything solid.


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Posted 18 March 2013 - 03:02 PM

View PostDetective Mystery 2013, on 16 March 2013 - 02:20 AM, said:

Most of the strange craft likely are flown and made by corporations and/or the military. Some of them are prototypes that leave the scene when they serve their purposes, but there may be civilian witnesses who see them, mistaking them for more exotic UFOs. Intelligence operatives might plant stories to make the public believe that the craft indeed are extraterrestrial. That's not to say that it's impossible that some craft are from outer space.
Well , the one small one we seen ( the one I felt scared coming up on )had some sort of melted fire, lava like substance drop  out from it .The craft itself  was pretty close and low , like just above  the tree tops,  in steath mode, just still , no sound , no movement ,  really weird shape , not circular or anything , it wasn't a drone either nor was it a helicopter which I hoped it was, until I had to drive pass it in order to get to where i was heading.
The trees died in less than a week or two after that night we seen that small creepy aircraft over them. I have no idea what it was .

I've seen other things too , which I haven't added into the count of how many unexplained things i've seen in the sky. Other things I've seen were objects that I can  best describe to have appeared  to  look like fire in the sky ,like  something more of a natural element , not like the movie fire in the sky. Lots of people seen it that day too , it  just remained hoovering low till it disappeared.( and i'm not referring to the sun) Other  objects  I've seen   look like stars ( but are not stars , nor could they have been satelltes ).

I've recently also seen something that I suspect is military, I have a feeling it's military . I can't ever see the shape of it when I see it,it's always a really dark night when it's out,  but it does like to try and get attention I noticed , with  it's lights, I know for certain that  it's not a helicopter .I've seen it  make a line of lights appear and when it does , whatever it is it seems to be pretty big in size , that is , when it lights up several more lights at a time,  when it makes the lights disappear it  appears smaller size , like an average small  plane in the sky., or it will sometimes  go all black , like  unseen for a couple of seconds and then bam light up one light , only to play with other lights more powerful than when it appears to look like a reg. small plane , it seems to play around with it's lights a lot whenever i see it.. it  will also play with the one light making it really powerful , almost blinding, if you were to look directly at it.  I see it in the same area whenever I see it. I feel that it's a bad distraction when you're driving and it's there , because of it playing with the ligts and all . I live near the ocean and near lots of forest land  too . I know we have a base near , but it's just for blackhawks.
Another object  I've also seen not too long ago was a  bright white light , like a star or commet or something , but , it change direction , I don't know if commets do that, I don't know if they change direction. The other person that had seen it too had told me the next day that they thought about what they had seen all night  long, because they  thought it might had been a ufo but  were uncertain for sure of what it was, just that they had never ever seen anything like that ever..
When I seen it ,heading  straight  towards me in  the ditection I was facing as i was at a stop sign in my car, I didn't know what to think except  that It was a beautiful light it  made a sharp  left turn ,right before my eyes, visably  it traveled  north   then  instantly isappeared .It was pretty wild because it came from  where the ocean  is first and appeared  from over the tree tops , like from no where, It could of been a commet, i don't kow what it was.


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Posted 19 March 2013 - 03:10 AM

Thanks for posting your stories, Reann. The last encounter reminded me of USOs. I wonder if navies have craft that could enter and exit bodies of water. Imagine if they mixed a plane with a submarine. I sometimes see craft that remind me of the X-47. They look like stingrays, and their lights blink or strobe in a unique way. They're not like ordinary aircraft lights. They make no noise, and their flying reminds me of swimming for some reason.

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 02:42 PM

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Oh so you have you  seen . And you're serious, you're not kidding around about it.
I have a family member that was always like one of the most biggest skeptics ever,about everything,once  he actually seen and then followed an ufo object  from his property , he got into his car and followed it , it lead him to the beach, where it took off over the ocean , some sort of super speed. He swore after that, that ufos were able to go under the ocean waters .. I used to think why on earth would they want to hide under the water ? but now I'm not so sure what to think about anything concerning them anymore.
I just don't get why , if they were always from somewhere of the universe , why do we not see them as often , or why haven't more people seen them , like how many people  out of one hundred actually seen something, and if so ,  is it happening more often or not? Have they made contact before ? and if so , what are the chances that they will again?
May I ask you something ? What is your view of or on Edgar Cayce's readings? do you think he was an honest man or not?


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Posted 20 March 2013 - 03:17 PM

Probably as many demons here on our planet earth as there are in the rest of the universe.


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Posted 20 March 2013 - 03:21 PM

View PostReann, on 20 March 2013 - 02:42 PM, said:

I just don't get why , if they were always from somewhere of the universe , why do we not see them as often , or why haven't more people seen them , like how many people  out of one hundred actually seen something, and if so ,  is it happening more often or not? Have they made contact before ? and if so , what are the chances that they will again?

People see them more often than you'd think, they just don't bother reporting them. I'm surprised when the subject comes up, at how many people I know have seen a UFO, having known them for years without it popping up in a conversation.

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 03:51 PM

I would really like to think there is more good than evil though . I was told once when i was a kid that good could not survive without evil  and the other way around . There's so much science just doesn't know about dimensions , and or the universe as well. I appreciate science and I'mm all for it , but , i know there's more to everything than science can provide proof to.
I would think that demons would be without a material body or the need for a material craft to take them from place to place. You know what , I wonder why did Crowley have access to that base where he performed that ritual , that entire thing seems really weird , why would he be granted permission for that by officals. I mean , i don't really know the entire facts on that matter , was he given permission or not  to be there on the base for the reason why he was , or , did he sneak on the base?


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Posted 20 March 2013 - 04:00 PM

View PostSweetpumper, on 20 March 2013 - 03:21 PM, said:

People see them more often than you'd think, they just don't bother reporting them. I'm surprised when the subject comes up, at how many people I know have seen a UFO, having known them for years without it popping up in a conversation.
Yeah , maybe people don't say anything because when or if they do , right away they  are  laughed at. I wonder though , if the stories that were past down over time that refer to demons are not , but are of some other race that visited here , and that's why i wonder why they are not here, if they were here before . Do you think they had something to do with the pyramids on earth or not ? Cultures on earth had them and they all also shared in stories of war in heaven , but all were of different faiths.


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Posted 20 March 2013 - 04:12 PM

View PostReann, on 20 March 2013 - 04:00 PM, said:

Do you think they had something to do with the pyramids on earth or not ?

No, but God, please don't go into the Ancient Aliens thread! It's embarrassing.

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 04:14 PM

View PostFrank Merton, on 10 February 2013 - 02:30 PM, said:

What a line of thinking:  First we assume aliens are out there grabbing people and doing nasty things to them.  But these aliens are really demons in disguise.  Then the demons possess people and the reason for thinking this is the Bible.  Then the Holy Spirit comes into the picture and is used in magic rituals to remove the demons making the individual who was grabbed by the aliens doing nasty things (remember them?) happy and I guess the aliens go home.

If it were you im sure youd be happy the Holy Spirit came to do this... you may think this is rediculous but it does happen to people.

Edit: the reason for thinking this is not the bible.. this happens with or without the bible

Edited by SpiritWriter, 20 March 2013 - 04:16 PM.

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 05:16 PM

View PostReann, on 20 March 2013 - 03:51 PM, said:

I would really like to think there is more good than evil though . I was told once when i was a kid that good could not survive without evil  and the other way around . There's so much science just doesn't know about dimensions , and or the universe as well. I appreciate science and I'mm all for it , but , i know there's more to everything than science can provide proof to.
I would think that demons would be without a material body or the need for a material craft to take them from place to place. You know what , I wonder why did Crowley have access to that base where he performed that ritual , that entire thing seems really weird , why would he be granted permission for that by officals. I mean , i don't really know the entire facts on that matter , was he given permission or not  to be there on the base for the reason why he was , or , did he sneak on the base?
I know of Crowley summoning this entity called LAM and it actually looked like the modern day Greys heres a link http://www.excludedm...Mstatement.html

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 03:24 AM

View PostReann, on 20 March 2013 - 02:42 PM, said:

Detective Mystery 2013
Oh so you have you  seen . And you're serious, you're not kidding around about it.
I have a family member that was always like one of the most biggest skeptics ever,about everything,once  he actually seen and then followed an ufo object  from his property , he got into his car and followed it , it lead him to the beach, where it took off over the ocean , some sort of super speed. He swore after that, that ufos were able to go under the ocean waters .. I used to think why on earth would they want to hide under the water ? but now I'm not so sure what to think about anything concerning them anymore.
I just don't get why , if they were always from somewhere of the universe , why do we not see them as often , or why haven't more people seen them , like how many people  out of one hundred actually seen something, and if so ,  is it happening more often or not? Have they made contact before ? and if so , what are the chances that they will again?
May I ask you something ? What is your view of or on Edgar Cayce's readings? do you think he was an honest man or not?

My uncle saw a flying saucer when he drove to work one morning. Both he and his friends saw it at the same time. My sightings weren't that earth-shattering. I saw the strange craft high up in the sky. The UFO, that they saw, was up close and personal. My guess was that all vehicles were connected to the MIC in some way. I lived close to an Air Force base. I kept that in mind when I saw strange craft.

It seems like sightings come in waves. They apparently come and go in varied places and times. The reality might differ, though. Exposure has much to do with perception, as not all encounters get a lot of coverage. Witnesses might be reluctant to share their encounters due to fear of ridicule. This is especially true when they're pilots and/or professionals. When one brave witness comes forward, it helps others to muster the courage to tell their tales. They make the subject more palatable. While, I think that most sightings of craft involve the military-industrial complex, I'm open to the idea that some of them might involve extraterrestrials. People have seen mysterious craft in the skies and seas throughout the historical record. They saw them many years before the airship flaps of the late 1800s. They probably have been contacting humankind for centuries, but we don't need official announcements to verify the importance of the encounters.

Cayce was a gifted man. He had a great record for diagnosing and treating health problems, and he was one of the most fascinating people of his place and time. I always thought that he had a relatively good record with his readings. His predictions, as well as his views on reincarnation, were another thing as far as how accurate they were.

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 03:30 AM

View PostJimDarling, on 20 March 2013 - 03:17 PM, said:

Probably as many demons here on our planet earth as there are in the rest of the universe.

You could interpret your post in different ways. Kudos for writing a subtle, tactful message.

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 03:40 AM

View PostFrank Merton, on 17 March 2013 - 07:36 AM, said:

Odds at neither has any real existence in our world.  They are misinterpretations, wishful thinking, mental delusions, frauds, pious frauds, and all the other phenomena in the records of psychiatry.  In fact the odds that they are nothing more than these can be said to be overwhelming, given all the study and noise around them not having produced, in over a century, anything solid.

IOW, you can't give a more definitive answer to the question than I can. I indeed can't prove that demons and extraterrestrials exist. You can't demonstrate that all claimed encounters with said entities are false. Out of all of the scores of claimed encounters out there, odds are that *some* of them are more than just prosaic incidents.

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 05:33 AM

I have been studying and have researched the alien/ufo thing since i was younger. The whole demon thing actually makes more sense then the whole alien from outer space concept. I think these entities are beings that are actually from this earth.
Whether they be demon spirits or maybe beings from earth but just on a different plain/dimension that can pass over at times it seems that the story's from religions  and other sacred books describe the things we call aliens just in various different
ways or in description. Basically what i think now is that these orbs and lights we see in the sky are the so called "fallen ones" or the angels that were said to be cast out from heaven. As for the ships that people see, i'm guessing advanced technology that is being hidden from us.





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