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#16    green_dude777

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 11:21 PM

View PostAsteroidX, on 11 February 2013 - 11:07 PM, said:

One of area of science that needs to be strictly monitored globally but not necessarily banned. It is science after all. But in the current state of humanity I have no problem with an outright ban on this science. It would be misused.

But I believe the meat of the meat of the bill is the later parts and the beginning is the shock and awe. Thats why legislation aka pork needs to be somewhat related. In this case I dont believe they do.

Would you elaborate to why you would be ok with an outright ban?

I think I agree with you on your second point.  To take it a step further, I think all pork should be banned from proposed bills.


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Posted 11 February 2013 - 11:34 PM

Would anyone find it interesting to grow a tail and replace your ears with another animals? It would make life unique and interesting, to choose a certain type of animal trait to incorporate into yourself and make you perform much better than the average human. Balance of a cat, speed of a cheetah, lifespan of a dinosaur, ability to breath like a amphibian, hearing of an bunny, eyesight of a eagle, and nose of a bloodhound that would push human's abilities beyond anything ever accomplished. I don't know the strongest animal on the planet, but add that to the list and you would have an super-human warrior for military.

Edited by Uncle Sam, 11 February 2013 - 11:39 PM.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 11:43 PM

View PostStellar, on 11 February 2013 - 04:05 PM, said:

I dont like the idea of restricting science/research in any way really.

There are always ethical restrictions. Unless of course you live in North Korea or some other dictatorship.

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As far as I'm concerned, a human-animal hybrid would just be another form of life, no different (but more sophisticated) than creating a mule.

True ... but. First thing that comes to mind is the legal ramifications. We would have to redefine what a person is. If this new species is not a person, in the legal sense, then the only other option is property. Which means you could own it and treat it just like any other animal. You could eat it, wear it's skin/fur or use it for entertainment.


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Posted 12 February 2013 - 12:03 AM

I'm not religious at all and I have severe reservations as to how this will be used. Are the results of these experiments going to be kept in a lab to be studied, resulting in a miserable life? There would be no "normal" life for them at all, as far as I can see.


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Posted 12 February 2013 - 12:04 AM

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Would you elaborate to why you would be ok with an outright ban?

I dont believe humanity is mature enough to embark on such a wonderful science. It would be misused IMO. Only when we can become a untied world or itleast as a united country that is full of growth should such a thing be taken on with the utmost scrutiny and care and caution to ensure we are for  example not making "slaves animal hybrids" or some other horrid concept that could come out of such a genetically engineered program. Would an artificially made creature have rights etc...So many unanswered questions that would need to be discussed and fleshed out as best we were able before embarking on such a project.

Edited by AsteroidX, 12 February 2013 - 12:05 AM.


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Posted 12 February 2013 - 07:10 AM

If there was a gene treatment that were to say, splice lizard DNA into you to regrow a lost limb, people in Mississipi would not be able to take part of that treatment.  Places like Korea and China would do research and development into this area regardless, in my opinion.  So I suppose, Mississippians could just travel out of state for treatment.  But I do agree with asteroid X on the ethical side of such research.


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Posted 12 February 2013 - 09:45 AM

View PostTHE MATRIX, on 11 February 2013 - 08:10 PM, said:

Lol. The entire state of mississippi barely have the iq and the intelligence of your average 4th grade science class. Seems like bible thumping Tea Partiers with too much time on their hands again.lol.
Stereotype much?  The state is poor, granted, but is as capable of producing first class scientists as whatever Mecca you hail from.  Classy guy....

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 09:57 AM

It may be that for most organs the building of artificial organs will solve the problem, but this does not seem at all likely for livers, where the only realistic possibility is the use of pig's livers.  I don't know if that would fall under the ban in some religions of eating pork (a surgical transplant wouldn't exactly be "eating").

We already have artificial feet made of various hides -- we call them shoes.

Most Americans no doubt think -- oh, Mississippi, of course.  What they don't realize is that elsewhere such nonsense is seen as "America," not as "Mississippi" and most people don't understand the difference.  Hence America becomes the brunt of the jokes.


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Posted 13 February 2013 - 05:41 AM

There goes my dream of replacing my bad ears with the most sensitive and powerful ears in the animal kingdom, feline ears to be exact.

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:16 AM

View PostUncle Sam, on 13 February 2013 - 05:41 AM, said:

There goes my dream of replacing my bad ears with the most sensitive and powerful ears in the animal kingdom, feline ears to be exact.

Aren't wolf ears better?


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Posted 13 February 2013 - 07:50 PM

View PostRender, on 13 February 2013 - 08:16 AM, said:

Aren't wolf ears better?

Well then... wolf ears it is. Maybe a tail of balance, giving me superior agility and nimble movement.

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:34 PM

View PostStellar, on 11 February 2013 - 04:05 PM, said:

I dont like the idea of restricting science/research in any way really.

As far as I'm concerned, a human-animal hybrid would just be another form of life, no different (but more sophisticated) than creating a mule.
That is a totaly bad analogy.  A mule is created through sex.  A hybrid human/animal could not occur naturally.  If you don't believe it go have sex with an animal and find out for yourself.  Also donkey and horses are both from the equine species so creating a mule does not create a new species.  In your opinion were the nazis wrong with the experiments they did on jews all in the name of science?  Or should there perhaps have been restrictions, which you say you are against.  People need to put more thought into such statements.

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 09:35 PM

View PostOverSword, on 13 February 2013 - 08:34 PM, said:

That is a totaly bad analogy.  A mule is created through sex.  A hybrid human/animal could not occur naturally.  If you don't believe it go have sex with an animal and find out for yourself.  Also donkey and horses are both from the equine species so creating a mule does not create a new species.  In your opinion were the nazis wrong with the experiments they did on jews all in the name of science?  Or should there perhaps have been restrictions, which you say you are against.  People need to put more thought into such statements.

I think you need a biology refresher.  I would calm the insulting tone, if I were you. Especially since you have such a severe flaw in what you said.


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Posted 13 February 2013 - 10:03 PM

View PostOverSword, on 13 February 2013 - 08:34 PM, said:

That is a totaly bad analogy.  A mule is created through sex.  A hybrid human/animal could not occur naturally.  If you don't believe it go have sex with an animal and find out for yourself.  Also donkey and horses are both from the equine species so creating a mule does not create a new species.  In your opinion were the nazis wrong with the experiments they did on jews all in the name of science?  Or should there perhaps have been restrictions, which you say you are against.  People need to put more thought into such statements.

I am quite aware that a mule is created "through sex" whereas a human/animal hybrid isnt. Point to me where I said otherwise.

What I said is that you're creating a hybrid (just like a mule), but through a more sophisticated method. The requirement for "sex" is irrelevant. As for your ridiculus analogy to Nazi experimentation on jews: you should clearly see that mixing human DNA and animal DNA is far different from taking an existing individual and experimenting *on* them.

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