[Warpigs]

APOLLO 11 July 1969 (Neil Armstrong, Michael Collins, Buzz Aldrin)

Supposedly two ufo's hovered overhead as Armstrong prepared to step down the ladder of the LEM at the Sea of Tranquility. Aldrin is reported to have taken several pictures of them. Modern People magazine published what they claim to be some of these photographs in their June 1975 issue. They claim to have gotten the pictures from a Japanese source.

Thats interesting because I recall watching the broadcast of this historic event on the Canadian network coverage. You know I seem to recall them discussing at some point a light which kept appearing while the astronauts were actually on the surface. I recall thinking that it was really interesting and then it just seemed to be dropped. I dont think that I am that senile yet . Do any of you reading this have similar recollections. If so please let me know.

One explanation for the halo's seen around or near some of the Appollo astronauts was that it was gases being vented from their backpacks. I have one picture which was reported to be something unusual in close proximity to one of the astronauts. It would clearly appear to be coming from the backpack when observed closely.

Timothy Good writes that HAM radio operators receiving the VHF signals directly picked up the following message which was screened by NASA from the public.

Mission Control: What's there?

Mission Control calling Apollo 11.

Apollo 11: These babies are huge, sir ... enormous....Oh, God, you wouldn't believe it! I'm telling you there are other space craft out there... lined up on the far side of the crater edge... they're on the moon watching us.

Good uses "SAGA UFO SPECIAL #3" as a source for this quote. The following is an excerpt from the transcript of the Apollo 11 technical debriefing.

Aldrin: The first unusual thing that we saw I guess was one day out or something pretty close to the moon. It had a sizeable dimension to it, so we put the monocular on it.

Collins: How'd we see this thing? Did we just look out the window and there it was.

Aldrin: Yes, and we weren't sure but what it might be the S-IVB. We called the ground and were told the S-IVB was 6,000 miles away. We had a problem with the high gain about this time, didn't we?

Collins: There was something. We felt a bump or maybe I just imagined it.

Armstrong: He was wondering whether the MESA had come off.

Collins: I don't guess we felt anything.

Aldrin: Of course, we were seeing all sorts of little objects going by at the various dumps and then we happened to see this one brighter object going by. We couldn't think of anything else it could be other than the S-IVB. We looked at it through the monocular and it seemed to have a bit of an L shape to it.

Armstrong: Like an open suitcase.

Aldrin: We were in PTC at the time so each of us had a chance to take a look at this and it certainly seemed to be within our vicinity and of a very sizeable dimension.

Armstrong: We should say it was right at the limit of the resolution of the eye. It was very difficult to tell what shape it was. And there was no way to tell the size without knowing the range or the range without knowing the size.

Aldrin: So then I got down in the LEB and started looking for it in the optics. We were grossly misled because with the sextant off focus what we saw appeared to be a cylinder.

Armstrong: Or really two rings.

Aldrin: Yes.

Armstrong: Two rings. Two connected rings.

Aldrin: Yes.

Collins: No, it looked like a hollow cylinder to me. It didn't look like two connected rings. You could see this thing tumbling and, when it came around end-on, you could look right down in it's guts. It was a hollow cylinder. But then you could change the focus on the sextant and it would be replaced by this open book shape. It was really weird.

Aldrin: I guess there's not too much more to say about it other than it wasn't a cylinder.

Collins: It was during the period when we thought it was a cylinder that we inquired about the S-IVB and we'd almost convinced ourselves that's what it had to be. But we don't have any more conclusions than that really. The fact that we didn't see it much past this one period - we really don't have a conclusion as to what it might have been, how big it was, or how far away it was. It was something that wasn't part of the urine dump, we're pretty sure of that.



In his book "RETURN TO EARTH" Colonel Edwin E. Aldrin Jr. writes the following on pages 223-224. I quote directly.

In the middle of one evening, Houston time, I found myself idly staring out the window of the Columbia and saw something that looked a bit unusual. It appeared brighter than any star and not quite the pinpoints of light that stars are. I pointed this out to Mike and Neil, and the three of us were beset with curiosity. With the help of the monocular we guessed that whatever it was, it was only a hundred or so miles away. Looking at it through our sextant we found it occasionaly formed a cylinder, but when the sextant's focus was adjusted it had a sort of illuminated "L" look to it. It had a shape of some sort - we all agreed on that - but exactly what it was we couldnt pin down. We asked Houston some casual questions: "How far away is the Saturn third stage?" The response was in the vicinity of six thousand miles. That wasn't it. It could possibly have been one of the panels of the Saturn third stage which fly off to expose the LM and cannot be traced from earth. We could see it for about forty-five seconds at a time as the ship rotated, and we watched it on and off for about an hour. We debated whether or not to tell the ground we had spotted something, and decided against it. Our reason was simple: The UFO people would descend on the message in hordes, setting off another rash of UFO spottings back on earth. We concluded it was most likely on of the panels. Its course appeared in no way to conflict with ours, and it presented no danger. We dropped the matter there.

In his book "Carrying The Fire" astronaut Michael Collins the command module pilot makes no mention of this incident.

[Warpigs]

MERCURY 9
May 16, 1963 - Gordon Cooper

On his final orbit Cooper radioed Muchea tracking station near Perth Australia that he was being approached by a greenish object moving east to west. This is unusual in that it is the opposite direction from most manmade orbits. More than 100 persons saw the object on tracking gear. Following the mission newsmen were informed that they would not be allowed to question Cooper on this aspect of the flight.

It is also reported that a voice transmission was picked up on a special frequency which could not be correlated with any known language.

It should be noted that Cooper has publicly denied having seen any UFO in connection with this flight. He did confirm that he saw the Aurora Australis which was multi-colored and may have been taken by some as a UFO sighting.

Major Gordon Cooper

One of the original Mercury Astronauts and the last American to fly in space alone. On May 15, 1963 he shot into space in a Mercury capsule for a 22 orbit journey around the world. During the final orbit, Major Gordon Cooper told the tracking station at Muchea (near Perth Australia) that he could see a glowing, greenish object ahead of him quickly approaching his capsule. The UFO was real and solid, because it was picked up by Muchea's tracking radar.

Cooper's sighting was reported by the National Broadcast Company, which was covering the flight step by step; but when Cooper landed, reporters were told that they would not be allowed to question him about the UFO sighting.

Major Cooper was a firm believer in UFOs. Ten years earlier, in 1951 he had sighted a UFO while piloting an F-86 Sabrejet over Western Germany. They were metallic, saucer-shaped discs at considerable altitude and could out-maneuver all American fighter planes.

Major Cooper also testified before the United Nations:

"I believe that these extra-terrestrial vehicles and their crews are visiting this planet from other planets..."

Most astronauts were reluctant to discuss UFOs.

"I did have occasion in 1951 to have two days of observation of many flights of them, of different sizes, flying in fighter formation, generally from east to west over Europe."

And according to a taped interview by J. L. Ferrando, Major Cooper said:

"For many years I have lived with a secret, in a secrecy imposed on all specialists in astronautics. I can now reveal that every day, in the USA, our radar instruments capture objects of form and composition unknown to us. And there are thousands of witness reports and a quantity of documents to prove this, but nobody wants to make them public.

Why? Because authority is afraid that people may think of God knows what kind of horrible invaders. So the password still is: We have to avoid panic by all means."

"I was furthermore a witness to an extraordinary phenomenon, here on this planet Earth. It happened a few months ago in Florida. There I saw with my own eyes a defined area of ground being consumed by flames, with four indentions left by a flying object which had descended in the middle of a field. Beings had left the craft (there were other traces to prove this). They seemed to have studied topography, they had collected soil samples and, eventually, they returned to where they had come from, disappearing at enormous speed... I happen to know that authority did just about everything to keep this incident from the press and TV, in fear of a panicky reaction from the public."


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[Velikovsky]

Another quick question, if these domes exist on the moon, given the advances with amateur telescopes, why has no one else ever seen the domes and reported them? Or if there is an alien base as well why has no one ever seen the ufo's on the moon with a telescope?
That would blow the conspiracy out of the water and anyone could verify it's truth by looking with a telescope. there would be no way to cover it up.

[Warpigs]

Many people have reported seeing strange lights on the Moon. They are called "LTPs" which means "Lunar Transient Phenomena." They look just like dots of light. But could also be sunlight glinting off the surfaces of the domes.

It's still a mystery as to what LTP's are.

This post has been edited by Warpigs: 11 October 2004 - 10:08 PM

[Warpigs]

People often report seeing strange lights on the Moon. Their causes remain a mystery. Here is an LTP website -


http://www.lpl.arizo...rstuff/ltp.html

[Macro Mouse]

There is no way life could have started and evolved on the moon, let alone become advanced enough to build artifacts. Doesn't even have the most basic necessities for life ... no true atmosphere, no liquid water. Never did have these either, given the extremely high crater count.

Of course, that's an obvious no-duh statement for most. Now this doesn't mean that ancient civilizations could've developed elsewhere and had bases on the moon or something. But the whole idea sounds far-fetched to me ... what was so special about the moon? What was so special about our solar system? I'd think if there were advanced aliens at the time of our solar system's youth, they'd pick an older solar system w/ much less protoplanet and asteroid bombardment to colonize or set up bases. Could be real artifacts, can't prove they aren't ... but I don't buy it.

Interesting nonetheless ... awesome pics and articles -- MM

[vimjams]

This is a very interesting topic Warpigs...And I too am convinced that there are anomalies and 'out of place' objects on the moon. I have been ever since reading 'Someone Else Is On Our Moon' by H Leonard.
I hope this post and your contributions continue...I'm going to enjoy reading the developments.

Vimjams

[blazer2004]

wasent this the first landing on the moon i heard they faked the landing??

[sunspot]

wasent this the first landing on the moon i heard they faked the landing??

.....faked the landing? LOL

[Bogeyman]

Y'now i've heard most of these Stories of Astronauts seeing this or seeing that but when you actually see them interviewed on the subject they never really come out and say "yes we've seen" them do they ?.
Which puts all these so called quotations into the world of urban legend.Dont get me wrong i'd love to haer an astronaut speak out and admit publicly some of the things theyve seen but as yet i'm not convinced.Last week i heard Gordon Coopers last interview with George Noory an Rense.com...and even in this he never categorically admits to ever seeing anything putting it beyond doubt ...and even says that quotes are attributed to him that never happened....nevertheless a great thread guys.....I love the moon anomaly stuff but surely theres got to be a way of getting some good quality photos ....The moon anomaly shots could really be anything if we're really honest about it.

[Nethius]

from what i've read those quotes never happened. the most the ever stated is flashing, or streaks of lights in front of thier eyes, but these are caused by solar flares penetrating the eyeball

[Kryso]

Very good post Warpigs.

I will spend more time going through all your accumulated work and make a more interesting post about it. But your time and effort is appreciated.