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#46    psyche101

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 02:59 AM

View PostYamato, on 19 March 2013 - 11:24 AM, said:

I don't know where you get your information from but it's a bit obtuse to claim that Sea Shepherd "does it for the money" in a reply that mentions Greenpeace by name when Sea Shepherd maintains the highest rating on Charity Navigator for getting their donations to where the action is and Greenpeace does not.   Leaving an inferior organization like Greenpeace and founding a superior organization like Sea Shepherd is an honor not a shame.  Do some homework on what Sea Shepherd's annual budget is and how many campaigns they organize around the world.   It's extraordinary how much work they do on the meager budget that they have.  And even more impressive, they pay their bills.  They're not relying on exponentially increasing debt or financing a gigantic ponzi scheme like the governments of Japan and the United States.  Though maybe the new Richard Nixon isn't as interested in balancing a budget as the old (real) Richard Nixon.

http://www.charityna...=search.results
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No?

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Is the following information easily accessible on the charity's website?  Donor Privacy PolicyPosted Image Board Members ListedPosted Image Audited FinancialsPosted Image Form 990Posted Image Key staff listedPosted Image

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Is the following information easily accessible on the charity's website?  Donor Privacy PolicyPosted Image Board Members ListedPosted Image Audited FinancialsPosted Image Form 990Posted Image Key staff listedPosted Image

Who shows transparency with funding? I wonder why that is, but I bet some Aussie politicians know.



Watson did not leave Greenpeace, not at all, he was unanimously voted out. Another lie you have posted.


Paul Watson became active with Greenpeace in 1971 as a member of our second expedition against nuclear weapons testing in Amchitka, and went on to participate in actions against whaling and the killing of harp seals.  He was an influential early member but not, as he sometimes claims, a founder.

He was expelled from the leadership of Greenpeace in 1977 by a vote of 11 to one (only Watson himself voted against it).


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Edited by psyche101, 22 March 2013 - 03:05 AM.

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 06:25 PM

View Postpsyche101, on 22 March 2013 - 02:59 AM, said:

No?

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Is the following information easily accessible on the charity's website?  Donor Privacy PolicyPosted Image Board Members ListedPosted Image Audited FinancialsPosted Image Form 990Posted Image Key staff listedPosted Image

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Is the following information easily accessible on the charity's website?  Donor Privacy PolicyPosted Image Board Members ListedPosted Image Audited FinancialsPosted Image Form 990Posted Image Key staff listedPosted Image

Who shows transparency with funding? I wonder why that is, but I bet some Aussie politicians know.



Watson did not leave Greenpeace, not at all, he was unanimously voted out. Another lie you have posted.


Paul Watson became active with Greenpeace in 1971 as a member of our second expedition against nuclear weapons testing in Amchitka, and went on to participate in actions against whaling and the killing of harp seals.  He was an influential early member but not, as he sometimes claims, a founder.
He was expelled from the leadership of Greenpeace in 1977 by a vote of 11 to one (only Watson himself voted against it).

LINK
I didn't say he wasn't unanimously voted out.   I have neither confirmed nor denied that statement so stop with the personal attacks already.   You're abusive, abrasive, immature, and limp to be calling me a liar when I've never rubbed two words dishonestly together.

Kudos to Paul Watson for making a stand against an organization he had profound and irreconcilable differences with.  He didn't sit in a chair and rabble rouse about his disagreements with another organization.  He immediately formed his own and went to work.

Sea Shepherd maintains the highest rating on what you're looking closely at and Greenpeace doesn't.  So you can't even acknowledge that.  You want to find any trace of negativity or criticism you can find to tarnish Sea Shepherd with.  You aren't interested in anything positive, you just want to take the dump.  I don't need an updated Form 990 to support Sea Shepherd, so sorry.

The more negative and bitter people are against Sea Shepherd, the more favors they do for them.  I like nothing more than trolls to post comments on SSCS videos because the more comments that get posted, the more the videos get viewed; the more views the videos get, the more support Sea Shepherd has.   You're a gift to the organization; far greater than my pittance worth of donations can afford.

I haven't even said two words about Paul Watson founding Greenpeace, so you're just throwing mud around hoping that it sticks to me.

From your own link: "There's a joke that in any bar in Vancouver, Canada, you can sit down next to someone who claims to have founded Greenpeace. In fact, there was no single founder: name, idea, spirit and tactics can all be said to have separate lineages. Yet, some people clearly stand out. Here are four of them."

Interesting that the #1 name on the list is Bob Hunter.  You should educate yourself a little bit about what you're linking to while you're trying to defile Sea Shepherd's name so desperately.

In 1975 Robert Hunter led the Greenpeace expedition against the Soviet Whaling fleet, along with lifelong friend and activist, Paul Watson and Patrick Moore.  He [Bob Hunter] participated on many Greenpeace and Sea Shepherd campaigns, and was on the advisory board for the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society for several years. A Sea Shepherd vessel was named for him after his death.

http://en.wikipedia....er_(journalist)

It's pretty clueless to be attempting to defile Paul Watson and bringing up one of his best lifelong friends to demean him with.  If he was good enough for Bob Hunter, what do I care about your opinion for?

And whatever.  Paul Watson's history in Greenpeace as some kind of an issue I should care about?  Whoop dee woo.  None of that makes any difference to anything.  It's just rabble rousing, playing politics between two organizations, starting trouble about nothing.

You keep pretending that a few "idiot" Australian politicians are the only ones who recognize these waters as Australian but that would be a lie that even as an Aussie you're not even aware of?  Excuse me, but the nation of Australia is who recognizes it.   Find me who the "genius" Australian politicians are who are actually claiming like you that the Australian Antarctic Territory actually isn't the territorial sovereignty of Australia! That's the 2nd time I'm asking you this.   I'm not asking you a 3rd time.  Your failure to prove your own anti-Australia claims will be noted if you come again with nothing to show. You're in contempt of your own country and you don't even know it.

Edited by Yamato, 22 March 2013 - 06:26 PM.

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 03:33 AM

I do not condone what the Japanese whalers are doing, and agree they need to stop killing whales. But these sea shepard people are nothing more than attention seeking, self aggrandizing, wannabe heroes that in reality are nothing more than common terrorists.


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Posted 23 March 2013 - 03:34 AM

Bob Barker Battles Happy Gilmore:



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Posted 26 March 2013 - 02:03 AM

View PostYamato, on 22 March 2013 - 06:25 PM, said:

I didn't say he wasn't unanimously voted out.   I have neither confirmed nor denied that statement so stop with the personal attacks already.   You're abusive, abrasive, immature, and limp to be calling me a liar when I've never rubbed two words dishonestly together.

Personal attacks? It's Watson's claim at hand, are you Watson are you? You said, and I quote:

Leaving an inferior organization like Greenpeace and founding a superior organization like Sea Shepherd is an honor not a shame

to which I replied:

Watson did not leave Greenpeace, not at all, he was unanimously voted out.

Again, you're just being deliberately obtuse.

View PostYamato, on 22 March 2013 - 06:25 PM, said:

Kudos to Paul Watson for making a stand against an organization he had profound and irreconcilable differences with.  He didn't sit in a chair and rabble rouse about his disagreements with another organization.  He immediately formed his own and went to work.

He did not make a stand, he was voted out, the only vote "for" was by Watson. Hardly making a stand there. He did sit in a chair and rabble rouse, that is why he was ousted, and nobody wanted the violent show pony, so what could he do but make his own business? It's shock value, and shock value sells, not ethics involved but plenty of cash I am sure.

View PostYamato, on 22 March 2013 - 06:25 PM, said:

Sea Shepherd maintains the highest rating on what you're looking closely at and Greenpeace doesn't.  So you can't even acknowledge that.  You want to find any trace of negativity or criticism you can find to tarnish Sea Shepherd with.  You aren't interested in anything positive, you just want to take the dump.  I don't need an updated Form 990 to support Sea Shepherd, so sorry.

Highest rating? Yet the International Whaling Commission, the actual people who are the authorities want them to rack off. You do not seem to think there is anything wrong with them hiding the allocation of that funding which as we can see is not something Greenpeace does.

View PostYamato, on 22 March 2013 - 06:25 PM, said:

The more negative and bitter people are against Sea Shepherd, the more favors they do for them.  I like nothing more than trolls to post comments on SSCS videos because the more comments that get posted, the more the videos get viewed; the more views the videos get, the more support Sea Shepherd has.   You're a gift to the organization; far greater than my pittance worth of donations can afford.

I do not comment on Youtube, for like the third time, read my Signature, I avoid Youtube unless necessary. I do not care for Youtube one bit. If you got your head out of the telly for a few moments, and into the real world, you might realise a few things about the Sea Shepherd as well. Here you are calling me a couch potato, and that is you who describe yourself, trolling Youtube, otherwise, how else would you know about those comments?

View PostYamato, on 22 March 2013 - 06:25 PM, said:

I haven't even said two words about Paul Watson founding Greenpeace, so you're just throwing mud around hoping that it sticks to me.

No you said he left Greenpeace, I said that is not the case, and he was not even a founder as he claims.

View PostYamato, on 22 March 2013 - 06:25 PM, said:

From your own link: "There's a joke that in any bar in Vancouver, Canada, you can sit down next to someone who claims to have founded Greenpeace. In fact, there was no single founder: name, idea, spirit and tactics can all be said to have separate lineages. Yet, some people clearly stand out. Here are four of them."


Yes some people clearly stand out. Pray tell, where be Watsons name?

View PostYamato, on 22 March 2013 - 06:25 PM, said:

Interesting that the #1 name on the list is Bob Hunter.  You should educate yourself a little bit about what you're linking to while you're trying to defile Sea Shepherd's name so desperately.

In 1975 Robert Hunter led the Greenpeace expedition against the Soviet Whaling fleet, along with lifelong friend and activist, Paul Watson and Patrick Moore.  He [Bob Hunter] participated on many Greenpeace and Sea Shepherd campaigns, and was on the advisory board for the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society for several years. A Sea Shepherd vessel was named for him after his death.

http://en.wikipedia....er_(journalist)

It's pretty clueless to be attempting to defile Paul Watson and bringing up one of his best lifelong friends to demean him with.  If he was good enough for Bob Hunter, what do I care about your opinion for?

And whatever.  Paul Watson's history in Greenpeace as some kind of an issue I should care about?  Whoop dee woo.  None of that makes any difference to anything.  It's just rabble rousing, playing politics between two organizations, starting trouble about nothing.

Bob Hunter was one who voted Watson out!!!



He was expelled from the leadership of Greenpeace in 1977 by a vote of 11 to one (only Watson himself voted against it).
Bob Hunter (one of Greenpeace's early leaders, after whom a Sea Shepherd vessel was named) described the event in his book, the Greenpeace Chronicles:

'No one doubted his [Watson's] courage for a moment. He was a great warrior brother. Yet in terms of the Greenpeace gestalt, he seemed possessed by too powerful a drive, too unrelenting a desire to push himself front and centre, shouldering everyone else aside… He had consistently gone around to other offices, acting out the role of mutineer. Everywhere he went, he created divisiveness… We all felt we'd got trapped in a web no one wanted to see develop, yet now that it had, there was nothing to do but bring down the axe, even if it meant bringing it down on the neck of our brother."


I already gave you this!! Watson showed his true color's, and Greenpeace, including Bob Hunter voted that he leave! His lifelong friend wielded the axe on his Greenpeace career, even his best friend could not put up with him any longer!


Far out, you bring a new definition to clueless!!!

View PostYamato, on 22 March 2013 - 06:25 PM, said:

You keep pretending that a few "idiot" Australian politicians are the only ones who recognize these waters as Australian but that would be a lie that even as an Aussie you're not even aware of?  Excuse me, but the nation of Australia is who recognizes it.   Find me who the "genius" Australian politicians are who are actually claiming like you that the Australian Antarctic Territory actually isn't the territorial sovereignty of Australia! That's the 2nd time I'm asking you this.   I'm not asking you a 3rd time.  Your failure to prove your own anti-Australia claims will be noted if you come again with nothing to show. You're in contempt of your own country and you don't even know it.


I am not pretending anything, the current Australian Government is the Labor Government, and yes, by large, they are idiots. They bought the first election by giving every Aussie a thousand dollars to just spend. A few months later we had terrible bushfires down south where that money wold have done a lot of good. Much of it went overseas to Ex Pats. Gee that helped.

This map is from the Australian Government Website.

LINK

Follow the link, it goes the the Australian Government Department of Foreign Affairs and Trading. That is the Government, not the current party in power. If Labor or Liberal win, this department remains. It exceeds your qualification. It has a PDF outlining the territories I already gave you, this is what I mean about idiot politicians, do their claims reflect the information they have and provide to the public? Now how about showing me where our waters have been breached?

If you feel these territories are so rock solid, being not recognised by 190 out of 194 counties, perhaps you might want to invest in some land on the moon. Those claims are not recognised either. This is how boundaries are negotiated in the real world - LINK

Edited by psyche101, 26 March 2013 - 02:04 AM.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 02:08 AM

View Postevancj, on 23 March 2013 - 03:33 AM, said:

I do not condone what the Japanese whalers are doing, and agree they need to stop killing whales. But these sea shepard people are nothing more than attention seeking, self aggrandizing, wannabe heroes that in reality are nothing more than common terrorists.

Gidday Mate

I agree completely, the problem is the Sea Shepherd has been on the water for over 35 years now and:

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If anything, things are worse off. I reckon it is time to realise this is not working, and making matters worse. We will end up with two massive fleets in a pising contest and no whales.

Cheers.

Edited by psyche101, 26 March 2013 - 02:09 AM.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 01:53 AM

Hey Psyche,

They are a miserable failure. I watched that show a couple of times and was unpressed with their common thuggery, and appalled at that idiot captain's poor and unnecessarily dangerous decision making skills. I don't think he will be happy until he gets himself and his young mislead and idealistic crew killed. They have not contributed anything to the whales or the world.

Brings to mind Albert Einstein's definition of insanity; "doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."


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Posted 28 March 2013 - 11:13 AM

View Postpsyche101, on 26 March 2013 - 02:08 AM, said:

Gidday Mate

I agree completely, the problem is the Sea Shepherd has been on the water for over 35 years now and:

Posted Image


If anything, things are worse off. I reckon it is time to realise this is not working, and making matters worse. We will end up with two massive fleets in a pising contest and no whales.

Cheers.
If you call it Scientific Whaling and that's what you think it is, of course the chart is going to show that.  The only whaling that was left legal on the upswing at the beginning of that chart was "scientific whaling".   You're just carrying the water and the rhetoric for the whaling industry, as usual.   Whatever you read from the bureaucracy is fact and truth to you, whatever those who oppose it say are "lies".   You're too biased to take seriously, and you're not capable of tolerating a non-violent organization you join the whaling officials in calling "terrorists" because you either don't know or can't handle the dictionary definition of the word.

I posted the statistics of Japanese whale kills by year and you conveniently ignored it after trying to preach more dishonest claims to me.

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 11:16 AM

View Postevancj, on 27 March 2013 - 01:53 AM, said:

Hey Psyche,

They are a miserable failure. I watched that show a couple of times and was unpressed with their common thuggery, and appalled at that idiot captain's poor and unnecessarily dangerous decision making skills. I don't think he will be happy until he gets himself and his young mislead and idealistic crew killed. They have not contributed anything to the whales or the world.

Brings to mind Albert Einstein's definition of insanity; "doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
They're a resounding success.   They expect the same results which is why they keep going back.   Biting into Japan's kill quota is important to other people and your opinion doesn't mean a damn thing.   Stop being a shill for the establishment.   Hirohito's Bushido needs to get his shoes shined still to this day.

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 11:28 AM

View Postpsyche101, on 26 March 2013 - 02:03 AM, said:

Personal attacks? It's Watson's claim at hand, are you Watson are you? You said, and I quote:

Leaving an inferior organization like Greenpeace and founding a superior organization like Sea Shepherd is an honor not a shame

to which I replied:

Watson did not leave Greenpeace, not at all, he was unanimously voted out.

Again, you're just being deliberately obtuse.



He did not make a stand, he was voted out, the only vote "for" was by Watson. Hardly making a stand there. He did sit in a chair and rabble rouse, that is why he was ousted, and nobody wanted the violent show pony, so what could he do but make his own business? It's shock value, and shock value sells, not ethics involved but plenty of cash I am sure.



Highest rating? Yet the International Whaling Commission, the actual people who are the authorities want them to rack off. You do not seem to think there is anything wrong with them hiding the allocation of that funding which as we can see is not something Greenpeace does.



I do not comment on Youtube, for like the third time, read my Signature, I avoid Youtube unless necessary. I do not care for Youtube one bit. If you got your head out of the telly for a few moments, and into the real world, you might realise a few things about the Sea Shepherd as well. Here you are calling me a couch potato, and that is you who describe yourself, trolling Youtube, otherwise, how else would you know about those comments?



No you said he left Greenpeace, I said that is not the case, and he was not even a founder as he claims.




Yes some people clearly stand out. Pray tell, where be Watsons name?



Bob Hunter was one who voted Watson out!!!



He was expelled from the leadership of Greenpeace in 1977 by a vote of 11 to one (only Watson himself voted against it).
Bob Hunter (one of Greenpeace's early leaders, after whom a Sea Shepherd vessel was named) described the event in his book, the Greenpeace Chronicles:

'No one doubted his [Watson's] courage for a moment. He was a great warrior brother. Yet in terms of the Greenpeace gestalt, he seemed possessed by too powerful a drive, too unrelenting a desire to push himself front and centre, shouldering everyone else aside… He had consistently gone around to other offices, acting out the role of mutineer. Everywhere he went, he created divisiveness… We all felt we'd got trapped in a web no one wanted to see develop, yet now that it had, there was nothing to do but bring down the axe, even if it meant bringing it down on the neck of our brother."


I already gave you this!! Watson showed his true color's, and Greenpeace, including Bob Hunter voted that he leave! His lifelong friend wielded the axe on his Greenpeace career, even his best friend could not put up with him any longer!


Far out, you bring a new definition to clueless!!!




I am not pretending anything, the current Australian Government is the Labor Government, and yes, by large, they are idiots. They bought the first election by giving every Aussie a thousand dollars to just spend. A few months later we had terrible bushfires down south where that money wold have done a lot of good. Much of it went overseas to Ex Pats. Gee that helped.

This map is from the Australian Government Website.

LINK

Follow the link, it goes the the Australian Government Department of Foreign Affairs and Trading. That is the Government, not the current party in power. If Labor or Liberal win, this department remains. It exceeds your qualification. It has a PDF outlining the territories I already gave you, this is what I mean about idiot politicians, do their claims reflect the information they have and provide to the public? Now how about showing me where our waters have been breached?

If you feel these territories are so rock solid, being not recognised by 190 out of 194 counties, perhaps you might want to invest in some land on the moon. Those claims are not recognised either. This is how boundaries are negotiated in the real world - LINK
All governments are idiots, which is why we support private enterprise.   Groups of unpaid individuals willing to risk their lives on their contracts to save our oceans.   The territories are what they are.  The rest is academic.  We can post maps at each other all day and it doesn't prove anything.

Paul Watson's "Greenpeace career" lol.  Who cares?  That is academic at this point.  You can blather about Greenpeace all you like.   He formed a new and much better organization.   I respect him for getting fired even more if that's what happened.  Nothing better than personal sacrifice to stick to your guns and make your vision happen.  If you're trying to paint Watson up as a bad guy, and you're desperate to do so, stop using Bob Hunter to validate it when Bob Hunter was his lifelong friend and served him well in Sea Shepherd.   Trying to lead an inferior organization like Greenpeace and getting fired for doing so and forming a better organization immediately after, is a testament to Paul Watson's leadership skills and passion.  It's a testament to his resourcefulness.   If you can't reform an organization from within, compete with it from without.  It's a solid strategy for any industry or politic.  Paul Watson is going down in history no matter how bloated and flatulent you feel about it.  

At the end of our lives a few of us will be remembered for what we have done.  Paul Watson is one of those people.   What will you do?  What have you done?



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Posted 28 March 2013 - 11:43 AM

The Australian EEZ extends 200 nautical miles out from its borders.
http://en.wikipedia....ne#cite_note-15

Australia has additional rights over these waters:
http://minister.ret....esofSeabed.aspx

Australia has further rights over these waters:
http://en.wikipedia....rctic_Territory

"The Labor Party are idiots" is not a valid response to any of these facts, psyche101.  You keep desperately pouring out insults and fighting foolishly against your own country, thinking that I care about arguing insignificant factoids with you about whatever barely-relevant tirade against Sea Shepherd you can cut and paste.

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 02:41 PM

If SS is a non aggressive organisation, then why are they buying ex coast guard vessels and armoring them?


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Posted 28 March 2013 - 03:42 PM

View PostThe New Richard Nixon, on 28 March 2013 - 02:41 PM, said:

If SS is a non aggressive organisation, then why are they buying ex coast guard vessels and armoring them?
Sea Shepherd is an aggressive organization.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 05:15 PM

View PostYamato, on 28 March 2013 - 11:16 AM, said:

They're a resounding success.   They expect the same results which is why they keep going back.  

35 years of the same unimaginative, and poorly thought out tactics that haven't stopped anything, is a resounding success? Go ahead and keep deluding yourself.

View PostYamato, on 28 March 2013 - 11:16 AM, said:

Biting into Japan's kill quota is important to other people and your opinion doesn't mean a damn thing.  

And yours somehow does?

This is exactly the kind of self righteous, and dismissive comment that drives away and alienates the greater public support for your cult, and others like it.

View PostYamato, on 28 March 2013 - 11:16 AM, said:

Stop being a shill for the establishment.  

I am not a shill for anyone. I do not support whaling, nor do I believe the Japanese are killing whales for scientific study. I would love to see whaling stopped but wouldn't give a dime to support you bag of nuts.

It is you whom is clearly the shill for the cult, you have bee brainwashed, and can no longer think for yourself. You drank the Kool-Aid, not me.

View PostYamato, on 28 March 2013 - 11:16 AM, said:

Hirohito's Bushido needs to get his shoes shined still to this day.

I have no idea who this person is and could careless if his shoes are shinny.

Let me give you a little advice; ditch your insane adrenalin junky captain whom thinks the root of the problem is the whalers, and work on changing the Japanese culture of eating whales. As long as there is a demand for whale flesh in Japan, there will be someone who is willing put up with your ineffective and pesky attacks to supply that demand.

Edited by evancj, 29 March 2013 - 06:13 PM.


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Posted 29 March 2013 - 05:21 PM

View PostYamato, on 28 March 2013 - 03:42 PM, said:

Sea Shepherd is an aggressive organization.

Yes it is...and misguided aggression is such a waste.  :no:





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