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#121    Stellar

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 10:18 PM

View PostAsteroidX, on 20 February 2013 - 10:14 PM, said:

I see the only one that fits the same images is a NATO supplier. Thank You for the work. They very well could be paper.

The 3D ones you quoted are different.

I can assure you, the ones in the infowars article are paper.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 10:19 PM

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I can assure you, the ones in the infowars article are paper.

I admit that I was wrong and they are paper. It doesnt change the OP however.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 10:42 PM

View PostStellar, on 20 February 2013 - 08:53 PM, said:

... made out of paper...

Then put a circle on it or a silhouette.  Why a 7 year old suburban kid?

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 10:51 PM

View PostMerc14, on 20 February 2013 - 10:42 PM, said:

Then put a circle on it or a silhouette.  Why a 7 year old suburban kid?

Because 7 year old suburban kids are terrorists, haven't you heard?

Their love of Cartoon Network is a threat to national security.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:05 PM

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Because 7 year old suburban kids are terrorists, haven't you heard?

Their love of Cartoon Network is a threat to national security.

Theres truth behind those words.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:28 PM

View PostMerc14, on 20 February 2013 - 10:42 PM, said:

Then put a circle on it or a silhouette.  Why a 7 year old suburban kid?

Thats already been explained. Read through the thread.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:35 PM

View PostStellar, on 20 February 2013 - 11:28 PM, said:

Thats already been explained. Read through the thread.
LOL/  No you tried to justify it but as an explanation it was weak.  Explain why you are so unwilling to question DHS buying millions of rounds of ammo, thousands of automatic rifles and targets with pregnant white women and 7 year old kids?  Does that seem normal to you?

Add i a president whose primary objective is to destroy the constitution, a corrupt, criminal of an Attorney General and an incompetent buff on heading DHS and ask yiurself why yo don't see a problem here.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:43 PM

View PostMerc14, on 20 February 2013 - 11:35 PM, said:

LOL/  No you tried to justify it but as an explanation it was weak.  Explain why you are so unwilling to question DHS buying millions of rounds of ammo, thousands of automatic rifles and targets with pregnant white women and 7 year old kids?  Does that seem normal to you?

Add i a president whose primary objective is to destroy the constitution, a corrupt, criminal of an Attorney General and an incompetent buff on heading DHS and ask yiurself why yo don't see a problem here.

Read my link. It explains it quite well.

If you really advocate training people to shoot at a circle on a stick, then you are just uninformed on the issue and you should probably leave it to the professionals that know what they're doing when training people.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:46 PM

View PostAsteroidX, on 20 February 2013 - 09:50 PM, said:

Your trying to bring rational to a conversation on a topic noone else is seeing as rationale. But I suppose if your safe across a border somewhere theres no real investment for you.

Bringing rational thought into a topic where people are freaking out is a good thing. Otherwise you have people just building on their fear and this does no good.

A few months ago people were freaking out when several US departments brought a bunch of ammunition. Sites like Infowars wanted people to believe that the government was planning to kill them and several members took this line of thinking. Eventually it was pointed out just how much ammunition gets used up at the practice range and people calmed down. That the fact that the government didn't slaughter citizens because they felt like it also helped.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:47 PM

View PostStellar, on 20 February 2013 - 11:43 PM, said:

Read my link. It explains it quite well.

If you really advocate training people to shoot at a circle on a stick, then you are just uninformed on the issue and you should probably leave it to the professionals that know what they're doing when training people.
Do you say this and consider how many more people the police shoot today than they did in the past....According to the DOJ often unjustly?


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:51 PM

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Bringing rational thought into a topic where people are freaking out is a good thing. Otherwise you have people just building on their fear and this does no good.

A few months ago people were freaking out when several US departments brought a bunch of ammunition. Sites like Infowars wanted people to believe that the government was planning to kill them and several members took this line of thinking. Eventually it was pointed out just how much ammunition gets used up at the practice range and people calmed down. That the fact that the government didn't slaughter citizens because they felt like it also helped.

People have not stopped freaking about this purchase. In fact we are hot on the trail of it in this very thread. So please find the kindness to look at sum and not the pieces you choose.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:51 PM

View PostOverSword, on 20 February 2013 - 11:47 PM, said:

Do you say this and consider how many more people the police shoot today than they did in the past....According to the DOJ often unjustly?

And let's compare that to the amount shot if they had no training.

The reason for not using circular targets for training soldiers and LEOs has been well astonished for decades. If someone doesn't know this, they're clearly uninformed on the subject.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:53 PM

you dont use AP rounds for target practice even paper ones that look like old men and young children. Ill leave the pregnant women out of it because based on the link you provided earlier they are obviously very dangerous and all LEO should be target practicing them.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:55 PM

View PostStellar, on 20 February 2013 - 11:51 PM, said:

And let's compare that to the amount shot if they had no training.

The reason for not using circular targets for training soldiers and LEOs has been well astonished for decades. If someone doesn't know this, they're clearly uninformed on the subject.
You're right, My grandfather and Uncle only shot circles and silhouettes and never fired a shot while serving the citizens of Seattle, Kirkland and Bellevue.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:57 PM

View PostAsteroidX, on 20 February 2013 - 11:51 PM, said:

People have not stopped freaking about this purchase. In fact we are hot on the trail of it in this very thread. So please find the kindness to look at sum and not the pieces you choose.

Well they should stop freaking out because it's a big to do about nothing. But hey if people want to live their lives in endless fear and baseless paranoia, I guess that's their business.

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