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[thewild]

So, this is not really news... I am amazed at the lifeforms I see enter the local Wallyworld where I work...That movie, "Idiocracy" is a documentary, not a comedy!! Living proof everyday that we reward the stupid while the ones smart enough to know better go without notice...

[Detective Mystery 2013]

WoIverine, on 22 February 2013 - 02:19 PM, said:

Ugh, caught myself getting irritated that kids were running around, screaming and yelling outside my front door. Mid 30's here also, I wonder how long it will take until that turns into "get off my lawn". lol I never thought that would happen.

We're the same age. It looks like we'll hit mid life just in time for inescapable male menopause commercials.

[Jeremiah65]

King Fluffs, on 22 February 2013 - 08:28 AM, said:

With all these kiddo's shouting "swag" and "yolo" these days I believe that the human race is indeed losing intelligence.

You wanna know what I find funny...is how the meaning of slang words just seem to change.  We didn't ever use "yolo" but we had a use for the word "swag"...it was rather unpalatable and harsh smoking herbs....now it's a completely different meaning...everytime I hear a young kid say it I snicker....thoughts rolling back to my early years...I laugh and people look at me like I just grew an arm out of my forehead....but to me...it's genuinely hilarious....

[Detective Mystery 2013]

Jacques Terreur, on 22 February 2013 - 08:56 AM, said:

may i ask how old you are? i am in my mid-thirties now, and sometimes i catch myself swearing at the "stupid mindless youth" as well, but then i remember that this is exactly the speech we got from thirty-somethings when we were 15.....

i know exactly what you mean, but let them grow pubic hair before condemning them!

The hippies and yuppies were mean to us when we were kids. I swore that I would be a nicer adult. I discovered that it was difficult to keep my vow. That difficulty started when texting started, which likely wasn't a coincidence.

[Jacques Terreur]

Rocketgirl, on 22 February 2013 - 11:05 PM, said:

A few years ago, I had a conversation with someone about that movie. I believe that our future will be like that unless something changes. Sometimes, I even think that I am getting dumber. I think the human race is losing inteligence and it's only a matter of time before we start focusing on nonsense things instead of trying to find a cure for cancer.

yeeeh, i'm totally with you there. that's happening already though. "Why do i need a cure for cancer? my new iPhone has an x-ray app so i can see ppl naked!"...we put so much of our daily life's wits in the "hands" of all kinds of gadgets that the next big evolutional trigger will be a massive power outage...

[Jacques Terreur]

Detective Mystery 2013, on 23 February 2013 - 03:38 AM, said:

The hippies and yuppies were mean to us when we were kids. I swore that I would be a nicer adult. I discovered that it was difficult to keep my vow. That difficulty started when texting started, which likely wasn't a coincidence.

could you elaborate that context maybe a bit? i am in a state before my first coffee and didn't get that texting thing....THX

[Detective Mystery 2013]

Jacques Terreur, on 23 February 2013 - 05:21 AM, said:

could you elaborate that context maybe a bit? i am in a state before my first coffee and didn't get that texting thing....THX

I referred to grammar and spelling mistakes. We all made them at some points in our lives. These were errors that American second-graders were taught to not make, though. I never was a language Nazi, but some of these *English-speaking* kids sounded illiterate.

[Jacques Terreur]

Detective Mystery 2013, on 23 February 2013 - 05:31 AM, said:

I referred to grammar and spelling mistakes. We all made them at some points in our lives. These were errors that American second-graders were taught to not make, though. I never was a language Nazi, but some of these *English-speaking* kids sounded illiterate.

hahaha, now i got it....yeah, well, i sometimes shudder when i hear kids speak, sitting next to me in the tram or so. For me it is hard to tell though if written and spoken language goes down the drain due to increasing stupidity or if it really is just a generation thing going on there.....
I'm from germany, see, and when i was 14 or 15, the word "geil" came up to usage amongst us kids, translating to "cool" or "def" in english. For my parents and ESPECIALLY my Grandma, that was very offensive to hear, because "normally", the word "geil" means "horny" or "lewd". So when i hear kids in that age speak,i bite my tongue and judge them when they are in their 20s....

[Rocketgirl]

thewild, on 23 February 2013 - 03:23 AM, said:

So, this is not really news... I am amazed at the lifeforms I see enter the local Wallyworld where I work...That movie, "Idiocracy" is a documentary, not a comedy!! Living proof everyday that we reward the stupid while the ones smart enough to know better go without notice...

That's true that dumb people get more attention. I see it all the time when I go places and it bothers me. Some people don't even know simple things that everyone should know. I hate to say it but there is no hope for us as a society when it comes to inteligence. We might as well re watch Idiocracy to get a reminder of what's to come in the near future.

[The Silver Thong]

When an educational center such as the net is controlled to as what we are allowed to know then yes we are fubared and yes we are being fubared

[Professor T]

Twinkle Arora is back, on 21 February 2013 - 09:54 PM, said:

Hahaha actually I am one of those guys who is fed up by the consumerism culture the humans have adopted on this planet, it just doesn't make sense.
Ever heard of Peter Joseph? The guy who made the Zeitgeist Documentary Series??
He has made a new series by the name "Culture In Decline" that targets the roots of the problems in the society,
You should check out www.cultureindecline.com and I am sure you will understand what I am saying after watching it's first three episodes.

Thanks.
This has a lot of truth in it & touches on what I was talking about earlier about the manipulation of society at subconscious levels..

Edited by Professor T, 23 February 2013 - 09:42 AM.

[Jinxdom]

Professor T, on 22 February 2013 - 10:15 PM, said:

Okay I don't think there is much truth in this.. Ultimately I think that this line of reasoning is incredibly self destructive because claiming that inteligence is born from the whole "Life is survival of the fittest" senario or "Life is War" set's us up to creating life senario's like what is highlighted... The fact that life is no-longer survial of the fittest or War doesn't imo rob us of inteligence.

Actually goes towards the whole being easier to breed part.(Sex feels good no?) Where stupidity in general has a tendency to survive and thrive now instead of being killed off.(Which does lower the intelligence of humanity) This is why it feels like society(Or some super government agency if you are in to conspiracy theories) is dumbing us down on purpose at times.

On point with the rest of your post though.

Edited by Jinxdom, 23 February 2013 - 10:34 AM.

[CrimsonKing]

I believe one of the biggest numbing and dumbing tools ever created to bedevil mankind has been reality tv.

[Seeker79]

Professor T, on 23 February 2013 - 09:26 AM, said:

Thanks.
This has a lot of truth in it & touches on what I was talking about earlier about the manipulation of society at subconscious levels..

Some thoughtful stuff there. But I feel that there are some big problems with this way of thinking. Actual economic theory backed up by research and peer review has a lot to say about this. People argue that economic philosophy is at fault, but what most people do not realize is that we don't actually follow what we learn by studying human choice in a scientific manner. We do not actually follow capitalism properly. Originally capitalism was never chosen as a system to fix everything and make the world hunky dory. Capitalism is a response and best fit for human nature through careful research. It would be nice to feed and cloth every human on earth up to modern standards, but even though we have the resources to do so, time and time again through practice and history we are shown that the ideologies that we come up with are grossly Inadequate because you have to move against human nature to acomplish it, and ultimately we are humans that implement it. The unfortunate problem is that capitalism is a fact just as much as evolution is.... NOT a philosophy. As such capitalistic behaviors will emerge in even the most well thought of social structures.  People as an average will follow their nature which is ultimately utilitarian no matter which way Somone spins it. Real economists know this. Through careful study, research, experimentation, and peer review actual economists know what the problems really are. When I say actual economists I mean actual scholars. These people that study finance and the movement of money are not really economists. Actual economics has nothing to do with money it has to do with utility and human choice. It could be defined as the science of human choice. Money just happens to be a media for choice. But it's just one. Very few people realize this.

Just an example amoung many
Actual capitalistic theory forbids things called externalities. These are costs businesses, corporations, or individuals impose upon others. These have dire mathematical cosequnes and can be demonstrated on simple supply and demand curves, yet for some reason in the way we operate our capitalistic society it is direly ignored. If we would only listen to real economists who are really actually scientists, we could infact fix a lot.

I find it interesting that a video about being misinformed tauting scientific reasoning, is acutually misinformed and unscientific. But that's just my opinion. Though i do agree heavily withboutsbout politics. The problem is that true economic principals are not being aplied there either. And yes I do have a degree in economics.

Edited by Seeker79, 23 February 2013 - 02:53 PM.

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bLu3 de 3n3rgy, on 22 February 2013 - 05:27 AM, said:

Right, everything information wise is written with an agenda or persuasion, so the ability to discern and weigh up sides is crucial to maintain and support a self aware existence. Most people tho are lazy or untrained to do so.

It all started with TV imo, and then media...fame. TV is designed to make us first of all feel dissatisfied with our lifes and then hook us into regimes, by selling our egos the remedies and solutions to make us feel better. Everything from commercials to soap operas, to the celebrity culture showing off the life we all think we should be having.  In soap operas people are sold the "decided" plot lines and scenarios in dramatic form,  which are nothing more than implantation of social programming / agendas. Do you know that some of the well known news sites / online papers have SOAP OPERA HEADLINES sometimes mixed up with every day news ? The daily life of a celebrity is a soap opera too - it's such a joke.

It's quite amazing really what they have achieved in managing to create a whole economy and society based on illusion and the fantasy needs of the ego. And people think people like myself are the ones not living in the real world. Pfft lol.

Great post.  Well said.