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Texas Bans Shooting Immigrants from Helicop


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#1    OverSword

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 08:02 PM

My.....how progressive of them!

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Officials in Texas announced on Thursday that State Troopers would no longer be allowed to open fire on suspects from helicopters after the recent killing of two immigrants.
While announcing the new policy, Texas Department of Public Safety Director Steve McCraw insisted that the ban on aerial shootings had nothing to do with the October 2012 death of two Guatemalan immigrants, who were gunned down by troopers in helicopter while they were hiding in the back of a speeding pickup truck near La Joya.
“I’m convinced that now, from a helicopter platform, that we shouldn’t shoot unless being shot at, or unless someone is being shot at,” McCraw told the state House Committee on Appropriations. “Last Friday, after a review of the policy and looking at all of the different things, and this is not a reflection of what happened there, I’m a firm believer they did exactly what they thought they needed to do.”
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 08:07 PM

“I’m convinced that now, from a helicopter platform, that we shouldn’t shoot unless being shot at, or unless someone is being shot at,”

lmao yeah, no **** sherlock.


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Posted 22 February 2013 - 08:19 PM

Simply WTF. They have drones to do the shooting now. Why risk a helicopter.


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Posted 22 February 2013 - 08:20 PM

What a novel idea,not shooting at the unarmed people on the ground from high up on your perch in the sky!With **** like this happening and we are worried about ordinary citizens having guns.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 08:22 PM

If this story is true, I'm surprised Texas banned it.


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Posted 22 February 2013 - 08:23 PM

It likely violates some International law TBH.


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Posted 22 February 2013 - 09:19 PM

Can't anybody have a bit of fun, these days?

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 09:23 PM

I agree that shooting people for illegally crossing a border is heinous.  But it raises some questions to me.  Does the US or any of it's states have a right to have a border at all?  If that right exists then are we not allowed to decide by legal decree who can and who cannot cross it?  If very large numbers of people decide to break that law and cross illegally then what response is considered ethical in the eyes of the world community?  What does England do?  How about Ireland, Australia or Canada?  For that matter, how does Mexico react if a US citizen violates their border headed south?  There seems to be no agreement on what is right any longer but one thing I feel is certain is that if unlimited numbers of poor and uneducated and even violent individuals are allowed to cross without consequence, then eventually the US will be no more desirable than the hell holes they escaped from.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 09:24 PM

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 09:28 PM

Dammit.  This was the whole reason I'm taking piloting classes.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 09:30 PM

One could look at the exodus from Syria and other conflicts to demonstrate how mass crossings are dealt with on a short term basis.


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Posted 22 February 2013 - 09:30 PM

View Postand then, on 22 February 2013 - 09:23 PM, said:

Does the US or any of it's states have a right to have a border at all?  If that right exists then are we not allowed to decide by legal decree who can and who cannot cross it?

Not in this era.  Y'know, 'cause:

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 09:36 PM

I wonder how long it was before the Visigoths realized they could steal or destroy what the Romans had, but could not reproduce it once the Romans were gone?  America is/was wealthy because of many ideas and a cohesion of beliefs.  Once that is broken then the magic is lost.  Who knows?  Maybe these immigrants will take the existing resources and make a better America for themselves in future - but I think it unlikely.  Too many have come like carrion.  Not enough who want to build.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 09:48 PM

Mexico doesn't treat illegals well but yet it is only wrong if we don't.

Police state: How Mexico treats illegal aliens


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Posted 22 February 2013 - 09:49 PM

Dammit. Now what am I supposed to do with all my free time?





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